Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I use them with no insertion loss at all. There is a version of it with a male end for antenna however I don't see it on Tessco's site. The polyphaser model # is DSXL-MA Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread jrichardson
They key to spectrum management is to use as little power as possible to achieve the desired result. Anything beyond this is just pollution. For Canopy you want ~16dB above the noise floor (10dB to get 2X plus 6dB margin). So for example if your noise floor is -78 (in the middle of the de

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Erik Anderson
On 6/13/2013 1:38 PM, David Hannum wrote: He strongly urged me not to even worry about balancing. He says run everything wide open all the time - all SM's and all AP's. Now, I'm not disputing you - I don't know enough too. I'm just relaying what the Cambium engineer told me. No worries (abou

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
Erik, Thanks for the input. I'll swap ports and power supplies. That makes sense. As for running too hot, I conversed with Dan Soles, field engineer for Cambium when he visited, about that very thing. He strongly urged me not to even worry about balancing. He says run everything wide open all

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Erik Anderson
I /have /seen similar things on Canopy 900. 1. I work with a lot of 900 APs. Test the radios that are down. Leave them running connected to the tower as an SM from a couple miles for a couple days. I bet they are just fine. But testing an AP as an SM is not a 100% guaranteed test (had on

Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

2013-06-13 Thread Terry White
Yes it is messy but I think I got it. thanks. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Christian Palecek Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap Probably going to have to be onsite, tftp is a messy

Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

2013-06-13 Thread Christian Palecek
Probably going to have to be onsite, tftp is a messy protocol Eric Muehleisen wrote: >___ >Wireless mailing list >Wireless@wispa.org >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list

Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

2013-06-13 Thread Eric Muehleisen
upgrade instructions, examples and procedures here. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/Trango_900.zip On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Terry White wrote: > I had a trango M900 ap that got hit by lightning and I had to replace it. > the one I replaced it with has an older firmwa

[WISPA] Trango M900 ap

2013-06-13 Thread Terry White
I had a trango M900 ap that got hit by lightning and I had to replace it. the one I replaced it with has an older firmware version and is randomly rebooting itself. After some research I found a newer firmware that is suppose to fix the problem but I can't find step by step instructions on how t

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
The S/N's on the radios are not really close. The second two that went bad came from a different shipment from the first batch. No visible signs of vandalism. Tower has locked cage around ladder. I can't imagine vandalism, however, you never rule out anything you can prove is out. Dave On Th

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Coenraad Loubser
Extreme bad luck - or perhaps not - are all the radios perhaps from a faulty batch? Vandalism - Is there any sort of access control or surveillance at the site? The first thoughts that spring to mind. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM, David Hannum wrote: > Never tried that before. We always use

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
Never tried that before. We always use LPU's on the CAT-5 but I've never put one on the antenna lead. What kind of line loss does it cause? I don't see that in the Tech Specs. Also, does it come with a male antenna connector side? Dave Hannum On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Can you possibly put a polyphaser on the 9000APC? I use these: http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=531462&eventPage=1 Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH

Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap

2013-06-13 Thread Norman Schippert
Is anyone out there serving Camden, Tennessee?If so, please call me. Thanks. Norman Schippert 502-589-4638 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] # of

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Jay Weekley
I wonder if it's electrical. Shortly after our tornado we lost all 4 900 aps at the same time. When I got on site our Coop was across the street working on the lines. The backhaul links were fine. Not saying they caused it necessarily but losing all 4 at the same time on a bright sunny day was

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Jay Weekley
Are all the ground points bonded together? David Hannum wrote: > We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange. Here is the > situation. We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has > a few homes around it. So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized > 2450AP on the to

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
The first radio went bad on the first antenna. The second and third radios have gone bad on the second antenna. We'll probably swap the antenna again this afternoon on this one. Dave Hannum New Era Broadband On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Jason Bailey wrote: > That's why I said antenna. I

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
Grounding points bonded. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Are all the ground points bonded together? > > David Hannum wrote: > > We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange. Here is the > > situation. We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Jason Bailey
That's why I said antenna. It happened frequently after changing the antenna. --- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum wrote: From: David Hannum Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC To: "WISPA General List" Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 10:01 AM Moisture is not an issue.  Good d

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
Moisture is not an issue. Good drip loops on both the antenna cable and CAT-5 Cables. We actually sealed the entry of the radio with mastic to be sure. The first radio lasted about 10 months. When it went, we first swapped antennas, thinking maybe a lightning strike damaged it (we've had the sa

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 6/13/2013 7:43 AM, David Hannum wrote: > We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange. Here is the > situation. We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a > few homes around it. So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP > on the tower, both on Omni's. Th

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Let us know what you find - Original Message - From: David Hannum To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC Swapped antennas first, thinking that might have been the issue. Did not help. I'

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
Swapped antennas first, thinking that might have been the issue. Did not help. I've heard off list from a couple of others who are experiencing the same exact issue. And like us, it's limited to a given tower or towers. We have 9000APC all over the place. This is the only spot for this problem.

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread Jason Bailey
Antenna has a dead short. Just a guess. --- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum wrote: From: David Hannum Subject: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC To: "WISPA General List" Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 7:43 AM We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange.  Here is the sit

Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
we have a lot of 900 in the airbut honestly, have never heard of anything like this. :( - Original Message - From: David Hannum To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:43 AM Subject: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC We're having an issue wit

[WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

2013-06-13 Thread David Hannum
We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange. Here is the situation. We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a few homes around it. So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP on the tower, both on Omni's. The antennas are on a stand almost exactly 4' apart.