Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

2014-04-08 Thread Scott Reed
At daybreak. Already have a climber scheduled in case it is at the top (265') On 4/7/2014 10:05 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Check the cable and hard set the interfaces if you can. Cheers, Mike On Apr 7, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Oops, look at the right stuff.

Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

2014-04-08 Thread Scott Reed
Web on UBNT, WinBox on MT On 4/7/2014 11:36 PM, Robert wrote: I didn't think the shell based speedtest would give those numbers without limiting out the cpu. Were you using the web based speed test? On 04/07/2014 06:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about

[WISPA] UBNT/Win8 Issue....

2014-04-08 Thread Bob Moldashel
Anyone know of a known problem and resolution for Win8 machines not connecting with UniFi AP's? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced email

2014-04-08 Thread Adam Greene
Yep so do we. We run Zimbra servers in our datacenters. For more info, you can contact Ed Parker epar...@webjogger.net mailto:epar...@webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x124 Thanks, Adam From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent:

Re: [WISPA] UBNT/Win8 Issue....

2014-04-08 Thread Adam Kennedy
We have a couple Win 8.1 machines that connect to our office UniFi AP Pros just fine. I would look at the wireless card/driver as suspect instead of the OS. Try looking at the manufacturer site of both the computer and the wireless card to see if there is an updated driver. If not, try a USB wifi

Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

2014-04-08 Thread Robert
Web on UBNT is a UDP test.. Apples and oranges As the shell based tcp test on UBNT hits processor limits very fast, it's better switching the MT test to UDP to get a better comparison. Best, Robert On 04/08/2014 03:07 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Web on UBNT, WinBox on MT On

[WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread wispa
Just curious if others have deployed a 3650 Omni and to know if it was effective? We have a few sites that we use 3650 PTP and one with a 120 degree panel that cranks out some decent power. Of course we are always looking for areas that we can break up APs and get some RF separation. I ran into

Re: [WISPA] Louisa, VA

2014-04-08 Thread Clay Stewart
CVALINK - you see this... should be close to you Brian! On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, David Hannum d.han...@newerabroadband.comwrote: Had a call looking for service at the following location: 7827 Ellisville Drive Louisa, VA 540-967-9214 Ask for Samuel Dave Hannum New Era Broadband

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread Patrick Leary
We have a few operators doing this with our COMPACT using a dual polarity omni. Granted, the locations are extremely rural with ample tree density, so conflict of what nearby cells there may be is not a problem. For us, it is not a recommended design, but the operator finds it is working well

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Doesn't answer your question but, we've use splitters and sector antennas to get around the use of omni's. There are a couple of advantages to sector design. Downtilt being the most important. However, it does cost more tower rent and cable management can be a pain. We've used it with great

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Good point re the downtilt. I should have noted the omnis I mentioned being used on the COMPACTs have an electrical downtilt. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01CF531F.350B0540]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

[WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single customer? For example, their house is in the middle of a forest but you can provide service at the end of their lane. This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together a kit of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm interested as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:00:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Solar

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
I have one up for 2 customers. They paid the cost on the tower and solar setup, I put up the AP. Pretty low maintenance, only issue I have on them is snow accumulating on the panels. Astronergy 290W 24V panel $280 Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller $63 MC4 cable $31 Shipping

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Robert
Yes, We got a pair of 100 Watt panels at a great price off newegg.com , no shipping, which for solar panels was a deal maker! Only used one panel. We build the mounts with Home Depot Superstrut and 1 conduit. ~$50 We used

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load or are you doing much more? Quick math tells me the batteries would do 12 days on a 10 watt load. Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads back to the question)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Mike Hammett
More panel is better than less panel. ;-) Not sure I'd go less than half of that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Robert's over here doing 1/3 of that, though. He's got a 15 watt load (two Ubnt, rb750p). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: More panel is better than

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Robert
It gets to the key of any solar project, what's the exposure. We are out in NV where 100 watt panel and 2x124 amp hour batteries is more than enough all year to span cloudy sessions. We get one full day and we are recharged and rarely go a week without one day of enough sun to get another week

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh, so since I'm in Ohio I'm going to need at least the 290 watt panel =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com wrote: It gets to the key of any solar project, what's the

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Robert
It's actually worse than that... 2x124 amp hour batteries... 2 MTMtl5, and RB433AH with 1 watt 2.4 radio in it. More like 25 watts full load. nominal is more like 12 watts. 1 100 Watt panel.But again, it's very sunny here.I have a couple of remote locations that run 8 AMPS@12V

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Robert
Honestly I have no clue what your exposure is like... Go off the sites at the solar panel stores that describe it and compare it to Northern Nevada... BUT if it's not critical to the customer, or the customer is willing to swap a battery or two out when things get bad, you can save a lot of

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
A lot of money can be saved if we get some sort of manual labor to solve any late December issues. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com wrote: Honestly I have no clue

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
According to the spec sheets you are looking at 8W for the NS + 5.5W for the NB and probably another 6W for the TS (only shows maximum consumption which would include all POE ports active) so about 20W total consumption. Running it in a 24V configuration hence 2 12V batteries. I figured more

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I measured a NSM2 a long time ago, it's 4-5 watts according to my amp meter. I'm not doing a ToughSwitch, I'm avoiding them entirely. I'll be doing an rb750p. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Sam

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
Or better yet, call some place like wholesale solar and have someone walk you through everything. The guy I talked to was really helpful in helping me do all of the calculations for northern Nebraska and walking me through all of the math. On a larger site (5 rockets and a TS, 4 batteries

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
Should be roughly the same power consumption. I used the spec sheets figuring the numbers would be higher than actual used. The only expense that makes me cringe in this setup (used it twice now) is the shipping cost, it cost as much to ship a single panel as the cost of the panel. If I was

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Tom Fadgen
You have to remember, in the winter the sun is much less available. There is no such thing as too much... only your tolerance for downtime! I have overshot the mark a few times. 120(min) watt Solar Panel Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller Solar Cable Tycon TP-DCDC-1224

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread Jack Unger
OMNI = Open (to) Monstrous Noise (and) Interference On 4/8/2014 7:55 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote: Just curious if others have deployed a 3650 Omni and to know if it was effective? We have a few sites that we use

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Best acronym ever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: OMNI = Open (to) Monstrous Noise (and) Interference On 4/8/2014 7:55 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote: Just

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
And cost ;) There is some room in that you can always add batteries or a panel (or swap out the panel). I guess my thought on Josh's original post was over engineer it, if the customer doesn't want to pay for the equipment you are out nothing (other than a customer you couldn't reach

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Old proven trick: Give the customer 2-3 options. I like 2, since I find customers like simplicity. Cheap option, list the caveats and problems. Expensive option, get the most solid over engineered fool proof stuff out there. Let the customer decide if they want to be cheap or have a solid

Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni

2014-04-08 Thread wispa
I know, but I have not been able to do 2 radios running on the same site that were both 3650 without killing each other. But, I appreciate the abuse again, Jack heith From: Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 12:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni OMNI = Open

Re: [WISPA] Louisa, VA

2014-04-08 Thread Jim Patient
You might try this form. It looks for WISPs that show their maps public and sends the EUS (End User Submission) to all WIPSs in the area that choose to show their maps public. http://towercoverage.com/findaprovider.asp Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 towercoverage.com

[WISPA] Charger

2014-04-08 Thread Roger Howard
Which 12v DC chargers do you guys use to power small rooftop repeaters from? I've been using iota dls chargers, but 12v at 15 amps is as small as they go. It'd be nice if they were physically smaller to save room in the cabinet, too. Cheers, Roger G5 Internet, LLC

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
Maybe you have better customers than I do, but mine will pick the cheap one and bitch like they paid for the expensive one every time something goes wrong with it. Maybe I'm just not that good of a salesman, I find it easier to just tell them this is what it costs, if that is too much I fully

Re: [WISPA] Charger

2014-04-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
I haven't used the 12v version, but the Meanwell AD-155A is smaller and it looks like significantly cheaper. On 04/08/2014 02:23 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Which 12v DC chargers do you guys use to power small rooftop repeaters from? I've been using iota dls chargers, but 12v at 15 amps is as

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Robert
Like I said, the newegg 100watt panels ended up being free shipping, that made the difference for us. For larger panels we are only 3 hours drive from wholesale solar, so we drive up to Shasta and pick them up. Last time we got 5 350 watt panels at .85/watt! On 04/08/2014 10:27 AM, Sam Tetherow

Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Hudson
I have a customer with an old telephone pole that wasn't used up the hill from his house and I put the following: (My costs) 1x Solar Cynergy 100W 12V panel - $125+shipping 1x Morningstar Sunsaver SS-10 10A, 12V Pwm Charge Controller $44.46+shipping 2x 35Ah SLA Batteries $65+tax each 2x