Re: [WISPA] BitTorrent to go UDP in next release
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proactive_network_Provider_Participation_for_P2P P4P is trying to do something very much like that. Lots of issues to work out as yet. P2P will evolve but likely will be a mix of P2P/P4P. I know I would love to have a P2P cache box to ease/defray the load (off peak, priority, etc) but the legality of such is questionable. Matt wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/05/richard_bennett_bittorrent_udp/ Would it not make sense for bittorrrent clients to have a preference to share with users under the same AS number? Would not help much on last mile but might on Internet backbone. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [Motorola II] 60% Canopy
I think customer satisfaction has less to do with the equipment used for the last mile than how the ISP manages the network and customers. The reason Canopy and Alvarion probably have the reputation they do is because if a WISP is going to spend a lot of the last mile portion of the connection, they are probably spending good money on routers, backhauls, good Internet connections, etc. Nearly all the equipment we've used has some flaw or another and what keeps customers happy is the ability to work out the problem. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not at all surprized if Motorola has majority share. What I ask is what does that mater any how? Motorola has a great distribution channel. And marketing and sales control market share penetration more than technical merits of the gear. Its so easy for a WISP to just jump on the bandwagon with the big name brand. What would be more interesting would be the financials of the companies that reported what gear they used. Which are more profitable? Users of MT, StarOS, Trango, Motorola, Alvarion? Which WISP's had higher percent Customer Satisfaction? Users of x, y ,z ? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [Motorola II] 60% Canopy A statistically significant sample is defined as a population over 30. For an off the cuff sample it isn't bad at all. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] 60% Canopy On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: But as it is, I think this is a fairly good sampling. Looks like 35 responses...not sure I'd call that a fairly good sampling. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering* * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member* * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008 7:08 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
The Canopy OFDM line, from an interface stand point, looks exactly like the other lines. All the tools, settings and options are the same. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Most importantly, 6 months later it is still working. 5 years later it is still working. Thats because you deploy in Rural America. Try comming to DC, and you'll have a different opinion. When I started 8 years ago, 50% of the available channels at half my cell sites were Toast at Verticle Pol 5.8G. have yet to see any material difference or benefit to using Trango over Canopy. But I can show the converse. In the earlier years there were many reasons and benefit to Trango over Canopy. But today, that is no longer the case, Canopy evolved. Canopy Advantage is now a well rounded feature rich product. From whatI understood they also have a Horizontal only model now also. Right now, it all boils down to Dual Polarity, and how advantageous that the WISP considers that value, over Canopy's other unique features. To this day, I do not understand why more have not embrased the Dual Pole proposition, unless it was patent intellectual propery issues. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays? I had the same question. The main difference is that we know before the roll in most cases the frequency and color code and if that ap is blocked by trees we generally have several others in different directions that the tech can switch to on the fly. Most importantly, 6 months later it is still working. 5 years later it is still working. On the few with problems the call center folks diagnose and fix the problem remotely. Only if the wind has caused a misalignment do we have to do a truck roll. I have yet to see any material difference or benefit to using Trango over Canopy. But I can show the converse. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays? Tom, Can you please help me understand how that procedure is any different then Canopy except the software selectable polarity? My only experience with Trango SU's has been on the bench, and I really wasn't impressed (especially after I heard all of the bitching from the tower guys I worked with that did have to deal with them) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays? Many people have missed the boat on what the differenciating factor was for Trango Trango's value is not measured by throughput, but instead deployment methodology. Proceedure 1) Accept Customer Order. 2) Go Onsite for the First Time, or to teh Tower to deploy the AP side of needed. 3) Do a Survey Scan, (software imbedded in Radio), and listen for LEAST noisy channel, confident that it will hear ALL noise. 4) You now know how not to interfere with all your other inplace links, and the best option and alternate options for channel selection. 5) You now have the flexibilty to turn up teh 5.8G or 5.3G radio, or Verticle or Horizontal, or Long range Dish or short range panel. But what ever your need is to get a free usable channels, you ahve it right there with you, with every option to your advantage to use as needed. 6) All testing tools you need are right there in the Software to crtify performance. 7) You walk away from your first visit onsite, with a Check and your first Client live and running perfectly. Then there is 6 months later, when your customer calls with an outage. 1) You log in remotely 2) You do a link test. You do a survey scan. 3) You quickly understand exactly what you need to do to repair the link in the shortest time period possible. 4) You are empowered to make the changes on the fly remotely, with out the truck roll bneeded 99% of the time. 5) You are now on the phone getting praised for your amazing response time that your company uniquely delivers, instead of taking the cancellation notice that you would be taking had you not made the decission to use trango. Whether you are deploying a PtP Atlas or a PtMP system, its that same general model. Sure, its less advantageous now that the 5.3 has been discontinued for 5830 line, but my point is the model was there originally when WISPs made decissions to buy into the concept of Trango. My point is There are some really nice products evolving
Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex
If you are using 18GHz, you should use the Apex line. It will offer up to 366Mbps and is a little cheaper. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, I just got a quote back from Trango for the following: 18ghz (311Mbps full-duplex) with split IDU/ODU 2ft dishes 48v rack mount power supplies Total price = $9,800 Care to share the pricing on a Dragonwave for the same? Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks wrote: I guess that's a personal preference. I've installed way more Stratex/Ceragon/Dragonwave links using the voltmeter design and probably just prefer it that way. And yes 5 months ago there might have been a difference when the gear was on sale from Trango and before Dragonwave dropped its pricing. I just did this the other day with a customer. I was able to match Trango for the same throughput Daniel White 3-dB Networks _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Hi, Having used the voltmeter vs. LED method of aligning, I will take the LED any day. One less piece of equipment to have to deal with on the tower, and a much more accurate way to see the true RSSI on the link. And, I think we already did the pricing thing about 5 months ago, didn't we? Seems like the Dragonwave was about $3,000 more for less of a radio... ;) Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks wrote: Tom, Quick question, then my response... do all Apex's ship with the fiber port in them? I really have to bite my tounge... I don't want to get into what all happened (basically I don't want my thoughts made public and the customer I was working for to read them) but I was not impressed at all with the Trango Giga product... I just helped install nine links last week. All I did was install and configure the radios, so yes they said 256QAM at 3xx Meg... but I didn't get to test it with live data, etc. What I will say, the alignment LED is a gimmick. Give me a BNC connector hooked up to a voltmeter any day. First my voltmeter is going to read to decimals, which is very helpful aligning long links. Second, the LED is about worthless if the sun is shining on it, you have to cover it with your hands to read the numbers which was difficult on at least one link I was aligning. Third, positioning on some towers to align the link made reading the LED difficult. None of these issues are problems with my voltmeter, I simply just use a strip of electrical tape and tape it to the ODU where I want. One thing I did like, the handles on the ODU of the Giga. Made aligning 3ft dishes a bit easier... With all of that said, what is the price on the Apex now that the summer special is long over? Before jumping for Trango, I would encourage anyone to show me a current quote and to see if I can match it with Dragonwave... from what I understand I can come damn close :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Not sure how many of you have tried the new Trango Apexes yet, but I thought I'd share my recent experience OK 366mbps, 256QAM, Cost me much less than I was expecting. And it just freakin Worked! WooHoo! Man, I like this radio. I specificaly liked the fact that the all outdoor unit, comes with 3 ports, 1 fiber, 1 GigE, 1 out-of-band managemnet, and supports inband management on the GigE. What I thought was unique was that either of the two Ethernet ports could be used to provide the POE power input. And also optionally can just run stanrdard Electrical wire to the Molex connector instead if prefer. But I was extremely impressed at the flexibilty in options to install this. The alignment LED is also awesome, that is positioned in a convenient place and shows actual RSSI DB number, as it really speeds up install and made it possible for one person to accurately align it. Also note... The older Giga had some anoying firmware bugs last year in their Betas (typical of Beta), and I finally got around to upgrading to the latest firmwares. (I was 9 months overdue for the task) Guess what... All the problems are FIXED!! Atleast the ones I knew about. I was really pleased. I have to say this product line is REALLY coming along nicely. Only thing I caution to be aware of is It takes a while to fully understand the relationship of how well your link is performing in relation to what the MSE value of the radio is. MSE is the equivellent of measurement of SNR and distortion. And the ATPC and Adaptive Modulation thresholds are based
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
I have been using WiFi Spray instead, its cheaper and works just as good!! Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply?
There have been at least two startups that had much the same idea (small, sealed underground reactors that could not go critical, would not need touched, no major moving parts, etc) and could never get the O.K. for it. The most notable one I remember wanted to put one in Alaska where they could really really use it as many places have nothing but diesel gen-sets for primary AC. IIRC (and might be wrong) they found people willing but the EPA and US Gov said no to the deal. Doing some fast math here $75 (my avg bill) X 20,000 = $1.5MM so a 2 year ROI. I would bet you would need to add 2 years or so to that for permits, shipping, etc if not more. Not to horrible sounding. Gino Villarini wrote: Dunno ,,, What is the US policy on this? Go, no go? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? One that I can buy as a private citizen? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? Toshiba has one available Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? I would buy one today if I could. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need a power supply? http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply?
Those are not civilian installations and are pretty much exempt from EPA issues and the US Gov (generaly) doesnt stop itself when it wants something. For a private company to do this is not easy. http://www.primidi.com/2005/02/06.html http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactor-op-lic/licensing-process.html D. Ryan Spott wrote: There are several small nuke plants in AK at this time powering listening stations for the military. I had a room mate that serviced these devices and a family member that flew crews out 2x a year to test for leaks and perform service. I guess they ran like a top and never had an issue. ryan On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been at least two startups that had much the same idea (small, sealed underground reactors that could not go critical, would not need touched, no major moving parts, etc) and could never get the O.K. for it. The most notable one I remember wanted to put one in Alaska where they could really really use it as many places have nothing but diesel gen-sets for primary AC. IIRC (and might be wrong) they found people willing but the EPA and US Gov said no to the deal. Doing some fast math here $75 (my avg bill) X 20,000 = $1.5MM so a 2 year ROI. I would bet you would need to add 2 years or so to that for permits, shipping, etc if not more. Not to horrible sounding. Gino Villarini wrote: Dunno ,,, What is the US policy on this? Go, no go? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? One that I can buy as a private citizen? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? Toshiba has one available Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? I would buy one today if I could. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need a power supply? http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply?
The key word there is 'getting'. It is (almost) always easier to ask forgiveness then permission. Things are not always done the correct way and a lot of it falls under get it done, clean it up later. Times have changed in the last decade or two and thats mostly for the better. That is not ot say the AK sites were not done correctly, only that Uncle Sam tends to get its way easier then JoeSixPack Blake Bowers wrote: Don't think for a minute they are that exempt from EPA style issues, espically when they move to get rid of a site. They spend billions each year getting compliant. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? Those are not civilian installations and are pretty much exempt from EPA issues and the US Gov (generaly) doesnt stop itself when it wants something. For a private company to do this is not easy. http://www.primidi.com/2005/02/06.html http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactor-op-lic/licensing-process.html D. Ryan Spott wrote: There are several small nuke plants in AK at this time powering listening stations for the military. I had a room mate that serviced these devices and a family member that flew crews out 2x a year to test for leaks and perform service. I guess they ran like a top and never had an issue. ryan On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been at least two startups that had much the same idea (small, sealed underground reactors that could not go critical, would not need touched, no major moving parts, etc) and could never get the O.K. for it. The most notable one I remember wanted to put one in Alaska where they could really really use it as many places have nothing but diesel gen-sets for primary AC. IIRC (and might be wrong) they found people willing but the EPA and US Gov said no to the deal. Doing some fast math here $75 (my avg bill) X 20,000 = $1.5MM so a 2 year ROI. I would bet you would need to add 2 years or so to that for permits, shipping, etc if not more. Not to horrible sounding. Gino Villarini wrote: Dunno ,,, What is the US policy on this? Go, no go? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? One that I can buy as a private citizen? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? Toshiba has one available Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply? I would buy one today if I could. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need a power supply? http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
[WISPA] Server Colocation in Salt Lake City?
Does anyone offer server colocation in Salt Lake City? Looking to host a 2U server with 10-30Mbps of bandwidth. Hit me offlist. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik CPU graphing
I've been looking for the same thing. We have everything and Cacti and it's just niceto see performance of all routers on one page with running history. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Look at /Tools graph On 11/11/08, Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to figure out how to track CPU load and PPS on our Mikrotik core router. Is there a simple guide for tracking this with MRTG/RRD somewhere out there? Im not having much luck finding it. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1.9ghz?
Eric Muehleisen wrote: I thought PCS operated in 1.9ghz? -Eric 1850 - 1990mhz = PCS 1910 - 1930 = Unlicensed PCS Mike Hammett wrote: *nods* DECT is a cordless phone protocol that operates in its own band. It's just recently starting to catch on here in the states, but it has been quite popular in Europe. It's very advanced too... you can have repeaters, multiple APs, etc kinda like WIFI, but for phones. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 1.9ghz? Hi, I wasn't aware you could get a cordless phone that operates in 1.9ghz??? Uniden DECT2080-2 shows it operates in the interference free cordless frequency. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
We sell up to 8Mbps on Canopy advantage without issues. Nearly all our customers are within a couple miles though and as long as they have less than a -76, they get full speed. Rarely do we have two customers doing full speed at the same time on the same sector. (Most we have on a sector is 50) Maybe we are luckier than most The main problem on Advantage (as well as other systems) is upload. However, Canopy QoS is good and even saturated links don't affect VoIP quality. We sell a small business 8/2 package and when you see one of them soaking upload for long periods and a couple customers running outbound P2P, you start to worry a little but we haven't had any complaints due to capacity. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Chuck, Not to rain on your parade but... I'm a little confused on how 10.2 mbps is possible w/ Canopy. Advantage series peak capacity is just for short range customers, and a large percentage of the capacity can be voided by by the farther out slower non-advantage CPEs. When Up/down rate ratios have to be pre-fined (for syncing) that limits the radio from using the ful capacity of the Radio. Its one of the big reasons that we chose Trango 8 years ago originally, so that it was infact possible to get full radio speed in one direction when it was available in low usage time, so we could quote higher speeds to business symetrical customers. Sure, if we consider 14mb real world advantage best case for Advantage series, use all advantage series CPE, and do a 70 / 30 download to upload, sure 10mbps peak downloads are possible for a single client, in that scenario. Provided that the WISP was fine with all other customers being 100% STARVED at the time the one customer was monopolizing the peak capacity. We tried that once, and it was a big mistake because it caused latency to sky rocket for all the other customers when they first attempted to use capacity, and the feel of the circuit because very bursty feeling. The short pauses made it feel like something was wrong with the circuit. TCP could not deal with it properly, it needs time to tune. Because of TCP's reaction, it actually translated to a slower experience than if we just gave customers half the speed. So My Points is Your concept of bursting a HIGH capacity for short periods is a sound concept, provided that you never let one cusomer have ALL your bandwdith. Headroom is needed. We found that if we let our customers burst to half the radio full capacity, we could use the same technique sucessfully because all the other subs were NEVER starved from bandwidth. We tried pushing the limits, such as allowing 7-8mb out of the 10mb, but it was to risky to do that because there were times when the full 10mbps was not achieve, such as when link quality degraded and retransmission occured do to RF packetloss, or when small packets were being used instead of pull packet size. Customers would suffer with the effects of non bandwdith shaping. There was also some issues with how well bandwdith shaping worked on Intel systems at 10mbps, as 10mbps speeds is about the peak speed before it exceed Intel's interupt clock limits of 100 ticks per second, nor was common Fair Weighted Queuing method able to be operation simultanoeus to trying to be used with Burst bucket type queuing. (Unless you aren't using Intel) So if we have a 10mbps HDX radio, we would sell peak 5 mbps services, and this would allow us to deliver good non-bursty performance without delays, and let us acheive high over subscription rates. And if we had a FDX imulated radio, that downloaded at 10mbps, again 5mbps would be the peak speed we allowed in our bursting. To keep it Real, With Canopy Advantage series, I'd highly recommend to WISPs that they do not commit to offer peak speeds above 5mbps per customer. It can result in severe degration at some customers sites that could be going on, and the WISP never really know it if they weren't sitting in front of the end user computers experiencing exactly what the end user was experienceing. And if you don't believe me, and want to push the limits, maybe 7mbps, but anything above that... its getting risky. That is provided that you'd be advertising Real Transfer Speed, instead of gross over the air speed. There have been some WISP that have quoted 11mbps for 2.4Ghz DSSS wifi systems that could only pass 3mbps, because they quoted Hardware gross specs and not real throughput. But in todays world, that is gettign harder and harder to do, with the many online speed test sites that are becoming common practice for end users to use to test their speeds. Its darn near impossible to get a full 10mbps speed test result from these test sites over a wireless nework, and much easier to achieve a 5mbps test, do to the distance, windowsize, latency variables that can effect TCP's real world throughput. (For example
Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
Our Canopy radios are connected to a Mikrotik for traffic shaping and routing at each tower. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you meant to say up to 10.2Mbps download speed. There is no way you are delivering 10.2Mbps to more than two customers at the same time off a single AP. ;) Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Our Canopy customers are used to getting 10.2 Mbps download speed. If the start a huge file transfer they get wide open throttle for a while (that while depends on their rate plan) then they get throttled until that particular file transfer is over. Once they stop, wide open throttle again. They love it. The power users call in and upgrade their rate plan all the time. Excellent up sell opportunities with zero effort. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers How does Canopy fix a customer satisfaction problem? If they are used to getting 5Mbps download speed and you have to cap them at 1Mbps, it doesn't really matter what platform you are using. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Canopy... - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] heavy usage customers Does anyone else here have customer/s that consume so much bandwidth that you have to throttle them down after say 5 minutes of downloading. And what do you tell them when they start complaining about the throttled down speed. (they don't know your throttling them though) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Canopy 430 PtMP
Anyone know when this is planned to be released? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
Tom, those speeds are possible with non-advantage P10 hardware. Version 9 of the software gives you 6800 pps too on P10 hardware. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rick, When you reference Trango are you referring to the Access 5800 series? On 11/1/08, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Tom. I tried Canopy but didnt like this aspect of it. So, I continued using Trango and love them! -RickG On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck, Not to rain on your parade but... I'm a little confused on how 10.2 mbps is possible w/ Canopy. Advantage series peak capacity is just for short range customers, and a large percentage of the capacity can be voided by by the farther out slower non-advantage CPEs. When Up/down rate ratios have to be pre-fined (for syncing) that limits the radio from using the ful capacity of the Radio. Its one of the big reasons that we chose Trango 8 years ago originally, so that it was infact possible to get full radio speed in one direction when it was available in low usage time, so we could quote higher speeds to business symetrical customers. Sure, if we consider 14mb real world advantage best case for Advantage series, use all advantage series CPE, and do a 70 / 30 download to upload, sure 10mbps peak downloads are possible for a single client, in that scenario. Provided that the WISP was fine with all other customers being 100% STARVED at the time the one customer was monopolizing the peak capacity. We tried that once, and it was a big mistake because it caused latency to sky rocket for all the other customers when they first attempted to use capacity, and the feel of the circuit because very bursty feeling. The short pauses made it feel like something was wrong with the circuit. TCP could not deal with it properly, it needs time to tune. Because of TCP's reaction, it actually translated to a slower experience than if we just gave customers half the speed. So My Points is Your concept of bursting a HIGH capacity for short periods is a sound concept, provided that you never let one cusomer have ALL your bandwdith. Headroom is needed. We found that if we let our customers burst to half the radio full capacity, we could use the same technique sucessfully because all the other subs were NEVER starved from bandwidth. We tried pushing the limits, such as allowing 7-8mb out of the 10mb, but it was to risky to do that because there were times when the full 10mbps was not achieve, such as when link quality degraded and retransmission occured do to RF packetloss, or when small packets were being used instead of pull packet size. Customers would suffer with the effects of non bandwdith shaping. There was also some issues with how well bandwdith shaping worked on Intel systems at 10mbps, as 10mbps speeds is about the peak speed before it exceed Intel's interupt clock limits of 100 ticks per second, nor was common Fair Weighted Queuing method able to be operation simultanoeus to trying to be used with Burst bucket type queuing. (Unless you aren't using Intel) So if we have a 10mbps HDX radio, we would sell peak 5 mbps services, and this would allow us to deliver good non-bursty performance without delays, and let us acheive high over subscription rates. And if we had a FDX imulated radio, that downloaded at 10mbps, again 5mbps would be the peak speed we allowed in our bursting. To keep it Real, With Canopy Advantage series, I'd highly recommend to WISPs that they do not commit to offer peak speeds above 5mbps per customer. It can result in severe degration at some customers sites that could be going on, and the WISP never really know it if they weren't sitting in front of the end user computers experiencing exactly what the end user was experienceing. And if you don't believe me, and want to push the limits, maybe 7mbps, but anything above that... its getting risky. That is provided that you'd be advertising Real Transfer Speed, instead of gross over the air speed. There have been some WISP that have quoted 11mbps for 2.4Ghz DSSS wifi systems that could only pass 3mbps, because they quoted Hardware gross specs and not real throughput. But in todays world, that is gettign harder and harder to do, with the many online speed test sites that are becoming common practice for end users to use to test their speeds. Its darn near impossible to get a full 10mbps speed test result from these test sites over a wireless nework, and much easier to achieve a 5mbps test, do to the distance, windowsize, latency variables that can effect TCP's real world throughput. (For example, 64k windowsize at 80ms, will only allow about a 3mbps transfer to occur). Don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing Canopy... We have
Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing
DeLage Landen F.S. 866-355-9450 x 1915 Has been great for us. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Harold Bledsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We have had good success with Marlin Leasing: https://www.marlinleasing.com/marlinleasing/index.asp?menu=ml -Hal On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 13:07 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a good relationship with a reputable equipment leasing firm? If so, who are you using? Thanks Chris Cooper This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
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[WISPA] Communications / Radio Tech career
Hi, I've recently graduated with a BA in English BUT am interested in shifting towards a career as a communications or radio technician. I don't really know much about how to go about doing this. Any tips? I've thought about going back to school to pursue a BS in Electrical Engineering, but would that be overkill? Any and all advice is welcome! Thank you, Ryan Van Dolson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Future
So, would the next five years be a viable time to start a WISP, or is the future really set for those already established WISPs? Thanks, Ryan WiMAX was dead, is dead and will remain dead. OK, not factually true but emotionally true. The cell companies will use WiMax frequencies and technologies but they will be a premium service and not well suited to compete with us for point to multi point fixed wireless. It will never live up to the hype. All the cell data technologies will remain premium for folks on the go. Cell does not want to squander the bandwidth to go after the value driven customer that love us so much. Cell is and will not be value leader for fixed wireless. technologies. 700 MHz is just not going to be used for anything other than more cell spectrum. The bands are narrow. Good for phone and limited amounts of data. Great propagation. Problem with 700 MHz is that the size of the antenna will be problematic for really small cell phones. Less gain than the current 900 and 1800 antennas for the same physical sizes. Also there will be a few years of implementation due to moving some existing TV stations. And some of them are not moving for some reason. I don't know if they get a special dispensation or what. All ILECs will continue to build out with fiber to the home. That will erode market share for WISPs in some areas. This is a slow and capital intensive process so no reason to get jumpy on that. Plus many folks prefer to deal with us vs a large public traded company. Superior customer service and support will always retain the customer. The cable companies will continue to shoot themselves in the foot and drop the balls. They are sooo freaked out by the erosion of customer base from DirecTV that they are not managing the IP side of the house as well as they could. They will continue to get in a tighter and tighter cash situation from satellite TV pressing from one side and the ILEC FTTH (and us) from the other. In the meantime, we add VOIP, computer repair, data backup, web development, OTA HDTV install and maint, etc as cross sell and up sell opportunities. All of us can offer triple play if we team up with DirecTV or OTA HDTV. OTA HDTV is a wonderful opportunity for the next 18 months for the value conscious customer. Stock UHF TV antennas and converter boxes and help folks get their analog TVs converted over. Less work than a WISP install and you will lock in the customer even more with superior customer service. You can rent them the gear for $5/month and make it a low cost package. In 5 years hopefully your investment will be a cash cow and you will ride this horse until it dies. Perhaps other technologies will come along for us to deploy but I see our segment strong for the next 5 years. In 10 years, if we have not diversified, we will probably be hurting. Oh, and satellite ISP will never do much. Pesky physics. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Future What do you see as the future of our industry over the next 5 years? ATT is expanding U-Verse (will this be available outside of town?) Verizon is expanding FiOS (will this be available outside of town?) Cable will be using DOCSIS 3 3G will gain more steam WiMAX will have larger and larger shares of the market 700 MHz will be in use possibly for data communications by the big guys My banker asked me, so I figured I'd see what other's opinions are. My thought is that the big guys mentioned above will continue to avoid the niche that we currently serve and we'll be able to provide better services with more spectrum (5.4 GHz, additional 2.5 GHz, 3.6 GHz, possibly TV white spaces) and WiMAX. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
Since it will be sending mail, you should also set the PTR record to point to the correct name (although if you have a decent DNS management system, it will do that for you) also add that name to your SPF record if you have one. Ryan - Original Message Follows - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:01:19 -0500 Through help from people on the lists and then further investigation based on those results, here is what I did. 1) I set the office to a statically assigned IP instead of from the pool. 2) I made an A entry on one of my domains aiur.ics-il.net (where aiur is the machine name). 3) I added aiur.ics-il.net directly after 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file (copied below). 4) I set the from email address (serveremail) in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf to something at the domain I created ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 5) Presto! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 aiur.ics-il.net Aiur localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Yup, and the channels listed there are not in the 5.4 range. But part of the frequency it does support has a DFS requirement (from my understanding), just relaying some info. - Original Message Follows - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:25:30 -0400 A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the DFS info we have: ChannelRADAR EventsTime Since Last Event Current Status 1241 30 days Available 1161 30 days Available 120167.20 days Available Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events. ryan On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, alot from prospects. It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building possitive public perception. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Hi folks, So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing the radios to vacate and move to another channel. We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we have any case where those found a radar. Thanks, Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). ** ** ** ** This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandalscomputer viruses. ** ** -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 9/20/2007 12:07 PM -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Nope, before everything out there was 2.4, There is one
link to the east that could have been affected by radar from
the airport.
Ryan
- Original Message Follows -
From: Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:38:37 -0500
Ryan,
Is that the same Link Jim had problems with every once in
while after dark? We figured they must have been testing
the new top secret aircraft..
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force
base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is
right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it
in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the
DFS info we have:
ChannelRADAR EventsTime Since Last Event
Current Status 1241 30 days
Available
1161 30 days
Available
120167.20 days
Available
Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS
events.
ryan
On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are
using the DFS2 issue as a major negative against us.
I'm getting asked about it, alot from prospects.
It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it,
for building possitive public perception.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary
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Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Hi folks,
So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2
kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many
reports where radars are forcing
the radios to vacate and move to another channel.
We are getting asked this a lot of late since we
released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars
much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are
rural, rural coastal, etc.
Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but
I don't think we
have any case where those found a radar.
Thanks,
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
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