Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years before I sold the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving parts, very little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they just work . Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well. Terry -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Fw: [WISP] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
The secondary regulators are housed in with the TEGs and the primary regulator and lines are insulated and heated. These were on Mountaintop locations in the Interior of British Columbia. Never had any problems with propane flow at 55 degrees below. I was the one that had to climb the mountain to fix them so it wasn't long before insulation/heaters were installed. -Original Message- From: Christopher Erickson Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Cc: 'Terry Hickey' Subject: RE: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Yes, it DOES matter how cold it is. Propane won't create gas pressure below -43.6F and many propane gas pressure regulators will ice up and stop working below about +20F. This isn't a problem for many locations but it is still important to know what the limits are. Christopher Erickson Consulting Engineer Summit Kinetics Waikoloa, HI 96738 www.summitkinetics.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Terry Hickey Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years before I sold the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving parts, very little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they just work . Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well. Terry -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6863 - Release Date: 11/24/13 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
In my case, the propane was in various sized tanks from 100 gal Pig tanks to 1000 gal tanks depending on access. The most remote ones we used 100 gal pigs (14 per site ) and used helicopters to fly the propane. Made for more trips but the cost of the helicopter to fly big tanks was horrendous. Tanks were out in the weather but the lines and regulators were either in the shack with the TEGS or covered and insulated. Average winter temp without wind was about –10 F dipping to about –45 F. Not sure what the wind chill was. The people that bought the system augmented it with solar and wind (varying success with the wind as they could not keep impellers in the generators). It has been a couple of years so I am not sure of their present configuration or success. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators No, it's in tanks that are the size of a medium sized car... outside. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:27:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Is the propane in a heated environment? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I guess all of those homes that use propane to heat their homes with its 20 below zero don't exist. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Christopher Erickson christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:20:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Yes, it DOES matter how cold it is. Propane won't create gas pressure below -43.6F and many propane gas pressure regulators will ice up and stop working below about +20F. This isn't a problem for many locations but it is still important to know what the limits are. Christopher Erickson Consulting Engineer Summit Kinetics Waikoloa, HI 96738 www.summitkinetics.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Terry Hickey Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years before I sold the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving parts, very little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they just work . Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well. Terry -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6863 - Release Date: 11/24/13 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
If I remember correctly the 5120 TEG is 120 W. We had 2 per tower site. From: Scott Carullo Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:36 PM To: D. Ryan Spott ; sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators We use a lot more then 100w though typical tower has two licensed links, 6 sectors, a few other unlicensed backhauls and two 24 port hp switches with 2 SPFs each, a router, thermal fans on two separate boxes, 3 DLI remote rebooters etc How do you get away with 100w of power at a tower site? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:27 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- From: D. Ryan Spott mailto:rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
Check this out http://www.neverfailsolar.com/ From: Jerry Richardson (airCloud) Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:24 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators Check it out http://www.norwall.com/products/Generac-7kW-Air-Cooled-Standby-CorePower-System-Package.html?gdftrk=gdfV23267_a_7c1096_a_7c3327_a_7c5837gclid=CK7y7ceB-boCFWxo7Aodg1AAaQ On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Oops, you need an ATS Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found anything smaller that is a complete automatic unit. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:00 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators. I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins: http://goo.gl/ZSrscl Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved! Off to go find the price for it... -Mike -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] old wave wireless radios
Good morning I need to put a temorary wireless link in and want to use some legacy equipment. I have a Trannzeo 2.4 access point and want to use a couple of old Wave Wireless (Ornico/ Lucient ) radios as satelite clients. Does anyone have a link to get some basic 802.11 firmware. I would just use the proprietary AP as well but it seems to have vanished long since. thanks, Terry ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Webcam
http://www.stardot-tech.com/ - Original Message - From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Webcam A group of radio stations that I provide phone and Internet service would like to setup a webcam in a few of their studios to stream video to their website. Any suggestions on hardware and configuration? Anyone know of a POE camera that supports PPPoE and simply FTP's a JPEG every ~60 seconds? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Green Bay Professional Packet Radio http://www.qsl.net/n9zia scroll down to Interactive Wireless / RF Design Utilities all you need is the GPS coordinates LOTS of other stuff there too - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment So it's 50 foot higher and 10 miles away...what angle is that? On Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Come on Josh, get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left and right, and Google Earth tells you altitude at the base of each plus your height, now it's just up or down from level, a few turns. Google is your friend! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to place my projector. There are more uses then people think. On Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: YES LOL ;) Only once did I know of a a practical use for trig. A friend of mine was trying to make a cut pattern in sheet metal to make a cone. The cone had to fit a certain size at the top and a certain size at the bottom. The cone was a pivotal part of his home brewing system. He is the kind of guy who can buy this stuff pre-made but preferred to do it himself. I don't have that kind of time on my hands, I just buy the stuff. Though he is a bit prouder of HIS homebrew system than I am, and that's the difference. Nobody else who opens my fridge knows, though. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Am I the only one that uses Trigonometry for vertical alignment? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 permail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio
I have had Tranzeo radios go fubar so they only will connect if the connecting computer/nic is set at 10 Mb Terry - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:27 AM Subject: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio OK, here's a good one. Have a long term customer that can't get internet all of the sudden. Shows no cable plugged into his computer. Had him try a laptop, it worked fine. Next had him take his computer to a repair shop for a new nic card. His computer DID work in town though. Back home, it wouldn't work with the radio. So I went out there to check this out. My laptop would work just fine. His desktop wouldn't. I ended up installing a router and all is working nicely now. His computer will talk to the router, but going right to the radio we show no cable connected. Anyone seen this before? I assume this is being caused by some kind of voltage miss match that the other devices aren't as sensitive to? shrug marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] email issues
Actually, if you use MailScanner, you can watermark all messages originating at your server and toast any undeliverables that do not have the watermark. It works like a charm. Terry - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] email issues We had a lot of that in the past. It wasn't that their email was hijacked, it was just that the spam bot was using our domain extension with random names as a return address. When the spam was sent to an invalid email address, it was then bounced back to us since it was the return email. As Stuart said, not too much you can do except wait for it to go away. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] email issues I've had that happen to myself and to a couple of clients and just like a virus we had to let it run it's course. However we did put in a filter rule to delete any undeliverables. -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:17:27 -0400 I've got a client whose email (mkfa...@kywifi.com) appears to have been hijacked for spamming purposes. I'm not sure what to do about it. Sample email below. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! -RickG *** From: mailer-dae...@yahoo.co.jp To: mkfa...@kywifi.com Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Delivery failure Message from yahoo.co.jp. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. y...@yahoo.co.jp: This user doesn't have a yahoo.co.jp account (y...@yahoo.co.jp) [-5] yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp: This user doesn't have a yahoo.co.jp account (yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp) [-101] yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yumis...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yumis...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yuri...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yuri...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. --- Original message follows. X-YahooFilteredBulk: 190.253.243.200 X-Originating-IP: [190.253.243.200] Return-Path: mkfa...@kywifi.com Received-SPF: none ([190.253.243.200]: domain of mkfa...@kywifi.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: mta307.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp from=kywifi.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 190.253.243.200 (EHLO 190.253.243.200) (190.253.243.200) by mta307.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp with SMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:43:27 +0900 Received: from [221.6.75.79] (helo=wxtzlmdpwyl.macfszutaxwyb.org) by with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMHK8-2919sz-YH for yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:43:25 -0500 From: Major Madrid mkfa...@kywifi.com To: yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp, yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp, yunon...@yahoo.co.jp, yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp, y...@yahoo.co.jp, yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp, ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp, yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp, ysan...@yahoo.co.jp, yuri...@yahoo.co.jp, danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp, yukiedgecom...@yahoo.co.jp, yumis...@yahoo.co.jp Subject: Re: Please, conflrm you receipt Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:43:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_aywkmxl_77_88_20 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: iiparxz_54 Message-ID: 3391449688.0ero8bwt613...@graizgzokcruk.pumhvbedkrrtuh.info --=_aywkmxl_77_88_20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Express Chemist PharmacyBuy non-prescription treatmentsonline. Discreet. = UK US registered. --=_aywkmxl_77_88_20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
- Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Force the equipment it is connected to to 10 Mb. - Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
funny I figured most people on this list would prefer American Made me I'll take my Ford Expedition and my Harley for fun - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear For that i have my Nissan Pathfinder Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Personally, I prefer my 4-door Wrangler with my custom roof rack. I can go anywhere, carry the kids and stuff, drop the top, pull my trailer with bikes and camping gear AND carry my kayaks. Try that in a Porsche or Corvette! ...the wireless equivalent? Idunno...maybe an old Freewave 900 MHz hopper? Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear Funny But I would say Im very satisfied with my current BMW Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear Sorry I saw this on CNN and it made me laugh http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/30/autos/GM_Corvette_recall.cnnw/ index.htm Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com dan...@3-db.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear I'd say it'd be more like comparing a Corvette with a Porsche... in the right hands in many cases, a Corvette will beat the Porsche, but the Porsche is 35x more expensive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear Tom ROTFL You can't compare a ubiquiti to a motorola 16e That's like comparing a Yugo with a Porsche Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Dec 29, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: I will admit, Moto has made a name for itself as a company that is here for the long haul. From that perspective, its always excitign to learn about new Moto products on their way. No problem with the $350 CPE level. But, I'd argue $3500 AP is still way to high, even for 802.16e MIMO. The truth is, we all know the cost to make a MIMO device hardware is not that much more than to make legacy non-MIMO, or I should say, very insignificant compared to the market value of the higher capacity. Its all opportunity mark up. (Sure MIMO takes more processor power, more antennas, etc, but those things are likely obtainable cheaper today than their legacy components were when they were designed). I'd also argue that RF speed/price is similar to Computer CPU speed/ price concepts. 50 mbps today is equivelent in value to what 10mbps was to us 5 years ago. Therefore price points should not exceed the cost of 10mbps 5 years ago, for the WISP to get a break even on the new technology. This is from both the perspective of consumer's demand for higher speeds, as well as technology advancement. I'd pose the same arguements Ubiquiti AP $99. vs Moto AP $3500. Paying 35x more for an AP is a tough call. Dont get me wrong, I've always been in favor of higher cost AP, simply because it discourages putting them up unnecessarilly to create noise, before they are needed, and discourages harry high school kid from calling themselves a WISP with one paycheck from McDs. But I'd argued Moto would need to beat the current Canopy Advantage line AP cost in order to make a big splash in the market. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear Everytime I see that pricing it makes me cringe... since I've seen Moto give pricing way before a product is actually set to release and its way off the mark. I hope it's right for Moto sake :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com dan...@3-db.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday,
Re: [WISPA] domain spam attack - JoeJob
I use MailScanner http://www.mailscanner.info/ . It allows you to put a watermark on all messages leaving your mailserver. If a bounce come in without the watermark , it trashes it . works like a charm for exactly that. Terry - Original Message - From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] domain spam attack - JoeJob Not really. Being in Asia and all. We have had this happen to us before. Just have to wait for them to go away. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] domain spam attack - JoeJob Does anyone have any experience with having an attack done on your domain where the sender spoofs the header and then puts your domain in it as the sender. I think this is called a JoeJob and we are getting 1000's of the bounced messages because of it and are now having difficulty sending to some of the bigger email providers like aol, yahoo, and hotmail. I tracked the originating IP down to somewhere in Asia and reported them to the holder of the Whois information there. Anything else I can do? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] solar site
Good information http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-sizing.html - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I think that's why they developed the sun hour maps I referenced earlier. They just tell you what to expect in your area for sun hours a day. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Christopher Erickson christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Could be but that isn't right either. 24 hours of daylight is not the same as 24 hours of full current charging. The Sun rises and the Sun sets. Latitude and seasons aside, an 80 watt panel is only going to give about 450 watt-hours a day at absolute best. -Christopher Erickson -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period. I think he meant 24 hours of sun cumulative over 33 days. No? Greg On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Christopher Erickson wrote: First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above the Arctic circle. And even then, that only happens for a few days of the year. Second, there isn't much charging going on when the Sun is near the horizon, which is most of the time when in Northern latitudes. For example, an 80 watt panel will NEVER output 80 watts in Anchorage, Alaska because even at solar noon in the summer, the Sun is only around 60 degrees up in the sky. And below about 25 degrees, there isn't any charging going on at all. So anyway think of an amperage sine wave that builds up in the morning, peaks at solar noon and then diminishes in the afternoon. The math is more complicated than it first appears. My advice is always free and worth every penny! -Christopher Erickson Network Design Engineer 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529 Anchorage, AK 99508 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal, I have 48W left over to charge the battery. Lets say I am REALLY north, and the panels are only producing 45W. I still am consuming 12W with the radios, and have 33W left over to charge the battery. If I have an 800AH battery 24 Hours of sun will run the radios AND fully charge the battery. If the sun shines 24 hours out of 33.3 days, I will stay ahead of the curve and the battery will stay charged. No sun for 33.3 days and my 800AH battery will finally die. I NEVER see those conditions here in the midwest. I'll still maintain you can do a repeater site for $500 in solar power costs and if you monitor battery condition it will work just fine. At 09:54 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w of panel. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
I have used some like that (only 2 straps) worked alright - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Wonder if it works on real chimneys or just the cardboard ones =P Randy is right though - do it right the first time and never again! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Another example of overkill, but you'll never have to go back and fix it... except when the neighbors complain how ugly it is :) Up to 2 mast! ralph wrote: This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions http://www.ronard.com/730731.html A bit more expensive / sturdy / configurable... Probably overkill. Ronard makes really good stuff. Robert West wrote: [IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg[/IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg%5B/IMG%5D Another crude rendering. The bottom is where he mounts the pipe to the side of the house. Then it goes up and the bend allows it to go out and up over the eave and then back into over the roof. If the bend is too far out, they swing the assembly in towards the eave and mount to that as well. He said he has the muffler shop bend it just like regular muffler pipe, the alloy is similar as in it's pretty soft and easy to bend. So it does a 90 degree, then up and a 90 degree back and up again. Looked darned simple and he buys the EMT for 13 bucks and pays the muffler guy something like 20 bucks to do 10 or 20 of them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I think the bottom horizontal line is the base of the standard powmount - but the top horizontal line is where I am confused. You said the muffler shop bends it, does it make a shift like a traditional muffler? 90 turn? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: No, it's like this crude ASCII rendering. He puts a U clamp on the bottom and on the eave. I I I I I I I --I I I I --- I I I I -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Robert, Your competitor's U shaped EMT - does it look like my painting? http://i27.tinypic.com/30woz1k.jpg Note - IANAA (I am not an artist) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: My competitor here uses 1.25 EMT conduit from Home Depot, 13 bucks for a 10' section. He takes them to the local muffler shop and has them bend them with a block U shape so that he can mount them to the side of the house under the peak and the bend allows him to swing the mount to the eave as well for stability. For additional height he inserts the next smaller size of EMT 1 to 2 feet inside the 1.25 and puts a couple of 1/4 bolts to attach them together. He can add another 8 or 9 feet this way. BUT, EMT is a soft allow, it's made to bend easily so I certainly wouldn't want to trust it with anything with a large wind load very high up. I haven't tried it but he says it works perfect for him and his guys install a lot faster now. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
Here is what I have done when I need to be above the roof. http://thickey.rockies.net/gallery/installs Everything is from a plumbing supply store. Galvanized pipe in whatever diameter works for the install (1 1/4 to 1/12 depending on load and height). hanger clamps with ready-rod cut to length and guys if the height warrants it. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work going straight up from the facia/gable mount instead of continuing the bend to get back over the roof? I would think that it would be stronger and more rigid if the bends were all between the mounting points. Perhaps I am missing something... ASCII art of what I am thinking below. | | | | | | | ___/ / | | Robert West wrote: Well, the story on this is, the competitor dude, he bought the wisp from a friend of mine who was near death from cancer and he bought it to make cash, didn't know a thing about wifi or networking. But the 2 motivators for him was, his guys were using 1/2 galvanized water pipe and fittings to make up mounts for whatever situation they were in.. Dunno how that was ever gonna work right and it never did. When the wind blew these things would move about on the fittings and the guys would take forever making up some bracket out of legos, basically. The second motivation is that the new owner of the wisp is an insurance agent and won't allow roof penetration, which is a good idea for anyone. So somehow he came up with this pipe bent at the muffler shop idea and I have to say, it looks like a winner. Cheap, cheap, cheap and from what the guys say, they can have the bracket mounted in a matter of minutes. I'll see if I can locate one or two installs and get some pics. Bob- -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency
Took the day off to go for a Bike ride.. The actual software build is TR6-4.0.3Rt - Original Message - From: John Scrivner To: thic...@rockies.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:40 PM Subject: Fwd: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency What firmware version is that? Is it 4.02 or 4.03? Thanks, Scriv -- Forwarded message -- From: Terry Hickey thic...@rockies.net Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org John Tranzeo released a new firmware update the other day that has helped my 900 system a lot. Better signal and much faster pings. I have been fighting the same problem as you for the past couple of months. Terry - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency Thanks for all these good tips. The items below are the things we have tried so far with no success. We are using smaller channels, H-pol. Filters have not helped the problem, noise floor is actually pretty good, C/I of about 20 on most CPE.. We are going to try the two setting changes that Daniel and Tom advised in other posts relating to beacon and RTS on clients. I will report our results. Thanks to all! Scriv On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: What does your noise floor look like? C/I? Have you tried moving from H-pol to V-pol and vice versa? Could it be self interference (which I think might be the biggest problem with 900MHz, at least the possibility of it)? What type of antennas are you using... can you sectorize further or put higher gain antennas at the clients? Can you add filters possibly to help with the noise? How large are your channels? Can you use a smaller channel? Assuming your sectors are not overloaded... I would assume interference too. Now I would pitch Canopy... but I'm sure you don't want to hear that :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return on a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering if anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited success in dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping there is something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in those locations. Any ideas are appreciated. John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency
John Tranzeo released a new firmware update the other day that has helped my 900 system a lot. Better signal and much faster pings. I have been fighting the same problem as you for the past couple of months. Terry - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency Thanks for all these good tips. The items below are the things we have tried so far with no success. We are using smaller channels, H-pol. Filters have not helped the problem, noise floor is actually pretty good, C/I of about 20 on most CPE.. We are going to try the two setting changes that Daniel and Tom advised in other posts relating to beacon and RTS on clients. I will report our results. Thanks to all! Scriv On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: What does your noise floor look like? C/I? Have you tried moving from H-pol to V-pol and vice versa? Could it be self interference (which I think might be the biggest problem with 900MHz, at least the possibility of it)? What type of antennas are you using... can you sectorize further or put higher gain antennas at the clients? Can you add filters possibly to help with the noise? How large are your channels? Can you use a smaller channel? Assuming your sectors are not overloaded... I would assume interference too. Now I would pitch Canopy... but I'm sure you don't want to hear that :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return on a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering if anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited success in dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping there is something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in those locations. Any ideas are appreciated. John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
MailwatchMailScannerSpamAssassian Virus Program of your choice MTA of your choice Monitor blacklist stuff with DNSStuff - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff Yeah, I wonder about that too. Probably for two reasons, mainly because they ARE the biggest spammers :-). There's money in it after all hehehehe Mostly I'll bet that they have people watching for such activity in real time. And they can tweak servers constantly. I have to catch things after the damage is done. There has to be a better way. marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed. I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains than any small independent isp's ... Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, What are you guys doing for email these days? I LOVE my setup for it's reliability, ease of use etc. Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though. We don't catch things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed. This has now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years. My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to limit cc's to 25 per message. We did that once before and my phone rang off the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends. The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply address. So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even mine (faked info). sigh We use Courier MTA. My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per user. And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those sending. Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from the server admins. Suggestions? laters, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
