Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations

2006-09-19 Thread Tom DeReggi

Peter,

I do not agree with those statistics.
Why would anyone prefer DialUp for the same price? Don't think so.
A large part of that 68% are DialUp Users NOT by choice.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Peter R. wrote:
We are actually at the point where about 68% of the US population has 
Internet.

The rest don't own a computer or do not want Internet.

Some of that 68% is still on dial-up. For some it is a price thing. For 
some it is not understanding technology. For some it is to make the 
experience painful to avoid wasting hours on the internet.


So dropping the price - as SBC and VZ have experienced - to sub-$15 gets 
you some dial-up conversions. But when the price returns to normal, some 
switch back to cheaper dial-up.


The dilemma becomes How do you get more internet appliance (PC's, 
laptops, PDAs, internet terminal) penetration?


The marketing question is: What Remarkable & Useful things can you do 
with broadband (other than entertainment)?


That's my 2 cents.

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.



I agree with you, I still have a considerable amount of dial up 
subscribers.


There needs to be a motivator, other than price, that makes these types of 
users decide to trade up. They have to want to.


And I thought giant pictures killing  their email would have done the 
trick by now :(


George

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Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S. 16th Among IndustrializedNations

2006-09-18 Thread George Rogato

Peter R. wrote:
We are actually at the point where about 68% of the US population has 
Internet.

The rest don't own a computer or do not want Internet.

Some of that 68% is still on dial-up. For some it is a price thing. For 
some it is not understanding technology. For some it is to make the 
experience painful to avoid wasting hours on the internet.


So dropping the price - as SBC and VZ have experienced - to sub-$15 gets 
you some dial-up conversions. But when the price returns to normal, some 
switch back to cheaper dial-up.


The dilemma becomes How do you get more internet appliance (PC's, 
laptops, PDAs, internet terminal) penetration?


The marketing question is: What Remarkable & Useful things can you do 
with broadband (other than entertainment)?


That's my 2 cents.

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.



I agree with you, I still have a considerable amount of dial up subscribers.

There needs to be a motivator, other than price, that makes these types 
of users decide to trade up. They have to want to.


And I thought giant pictures killing  their email would have done the 
trick by now :(


George

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Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S. 16th Among IndustrializedNations

2006-09-18 Thread Peter R.
We are actually at the point where about 68% of the US population has 
Internet.

The rest don't own a computer or do not want Internet.

Some of that 68% is still on dial-up. For some it is a price thing. For 
some it is not understanding technology. For some it is to make the 
experience painful to avoid wasting hours on the internet.


So dropping the price - as SBC and VZ have experienced - to sub-$15 gets 
you some dial-up conversions. But when the price returns to normal, some 
switch back to cheaper dial-up.


The dilemma becomes How do you get more internet appliance (PC's, 
laptops, PDAs, internet terminal) penetration?


The marketing question is: What Remarkable & Useful things can you do 
with broadband (other than entertainment)?


That's my 2 cents.

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S. 16th Among IndustrializedNations

2006-09-18 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I get more and more frustrated with these kinds of titles...

You'd think there wasn't broadband available.   There's broadband available
in an amazingly wide area...  But you can't force consumers to buy it.

This is probably just the first volley of a campaign to gin up a few hundred
billion to give to the telcos as subsidy to "lower" the price of
broadband...

We should be very wary of this kind of misleading stuff, it's going to bite
us big time if we don't speak up and get some real perspective seen.


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> U.S. Still Lags In Broadband Access
> Lack of Competition Leaves U.S. 16th Among Industrialized Nations
> By Martin H. Bosworth
> ConsumerAffairs.Com
>
> September 17, 2006
>
> The constant refrain of major telecommunications and cable companies is
> that there's "heavy competition" for the Internet user's dollar.
>
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