[WISPA] Ya Know......
The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I think that Matt was stating that airing your frustration with this person was not professional. That was my take on it. Even more unprofessional was your comment below. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Oh Whatever Mark Nash wrote: I think that Matt was stating that airing your frustration with this person was not professional. That was my take on it. Even more unprofessional was your comment below. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe
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I'd second that. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. I think that Matt was stating that airing your frustration with this person was not professional. That was my take on it. Even more unprofessional was your comment below. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The thought crossed my mind but I am following along what Matt said. I handled this professionally. Even offered to pay half the shipping! Well...all of those offers are off the table at the present price. And two people have already contacted me offlist and want to know who that person is. I am not giving out that info (even though I am super pissed.. :-) so everyone please don't e-mail me and ask. Mum's the word...for now. Brad...He lives near you and I will let you know if he needs a big Texan visit! LOL -B- Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
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After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
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Alright. Shut this thread down. Or take it off list. Don't gripe on list about an issue between two individuals. Use a blog or something. Seriously. Bob Moldashel wrote: After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios only. if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please don't ask. Sorry for the rant. Offlist (lakel...@gbcx.net) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
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It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount
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Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1
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Voicing a problem is one thing. Calling someone a loser is another... Keep it professional. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6
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Bob is one of the most professional that I see on the lists, and he is always freely giving of good sound advice, espically when it comes to towers. I suspect the furor over him calling a loser a loser is a bit misplaced. I understand his agravation. And your right about the deposit... Giving it back would be the wrong thing in my book. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless
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Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like
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I agree with you with the exception of the words. You can get your point across without sinking to that level. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is one of the most professional that I see on the lists, and he is always freely giving of good sound advice, espically when it comes to towers. I suspect the furor over him calling a loser a loser is a bit misplaced. I understand his agravation. And your right about the deposit... Giving it back would be the wrong thing in my book. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I think bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Schadenfreude Nice use of the word :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional
