As I stated earlier I appreciate everyone's ideas but last I checked I
run my own business. Everyone can do their business however they wish. I
do not consider the fiber connection I have to be the weak point in my
network. There are several points of failure in an ISP including your
system I a
Just a couple quick points...
You mentioned you are 75 miles from the nearest telco-hotel. We are 200
miles from the nearest telco POP. There are ways to be redundant in
these rural markets without it costing you a fortune.
Next, being multi-homed is different than a redundant links to towers
Having a 4xT as a backup is better than no connection.
John
John Scrivner wrote:
Maybe it is very costly to do? Charter Pipeline service in my market
is not multi-homed either. Neither am I at this point. I used to be
multi-homed in the days when 2 T1s did the job. It is not easy to
swing
Matt,
Charter Pipeline in this market is not multi-homed. It costs me about
$40K per year to be multi-homed. I do not see it as a necessity. That is
MY opinion. It costs Joe User about $40 per month more to be
multi-homed in my market. It is what I suggest to anyone who says they
depend on th
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See now that is the issue around here.
If we want true redundancy we need to ride two different fibers out of town.
One is the fiber we are alrea
riday, March 16, 2007 12:06 PM
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See now that is the issue around here.
If we want true redundancy we need to ride two different fibers out of town.
One is the fiber we are already on, and the other is the expensive guys
Qwest.
We hate to
Peter R. wrote:
Two, I am pretty sure that there is more to this story than what was
written.
And if Said Inc. was talking to L3 Security as often as implied, it
would seem they had some issues that they did not want to own up to.
- Peter
Me too, I caught the , web hosting, adult sites, and
: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:30 PM
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You know, this really is the answer. Two different isp's
I've had the customers over the years, that want 10- 9's because
their business depends upon the internet, but then they don'
One, business sense when you getting E-Rate $, is to be multi-homed,
even if only to cover half of the E-rate bandwidth.
Two, I am pretty sure that there is more to this story than what was
written.
And if Said Inc. was talking to L3 Security as often as implied, it
would seem they had some is
Matt Liotta wrote:
George Rogato wrote:
You know, this really is the answer. Two different isp's
I've had the customers over the years, that want 10- 9's because
their business depends upon the internet, but then they don't want to
pay an extra 30 - 40.00 per month to get it.
So you would r
George Rogato wrote:
You know, this really is the answer. Two different isp's
I've had the customers over the years, that want 10- 9's because
their business depends upon the internet, but then they don't want to
pay an extra 30 - 40.00 per month to get it.
So you would recommend to your cus
You know, this really is the answer. Two different isp's
I've had the customers over the years, that want 10- 9's because
their business depends upon the internet, but then they don't want to
pay an extra 30 - 40.00 per month to get it.
John Scrivner wrote:
I tell them the fiber is down. I
ogato
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See now that is the issue around here.
If we want true redundancy we need to ride two different fibers out of town.
One is the fiber we are already on, and the other is the expensive guys
Qwest
I can't imagine you would go broke. I seem to recall that you aren't but
a couple of radio shots away from cheap bandwidth in St. Louis.
Certainly, a couple of long range high throughput radios wouldn't make
you go broke.
-Matt
John Scrivner wrote:
I tell them the fiber is down. I guess I cou
Tom DeReggi wrote:
It does make you wonder why the ISP in question wasn't multi-homed.
Although, I recognize being multi-homed would have protected the WISP
in this situation... That is not really the issue.
The issue is that Businesses often build strategic partnerships, and
togeather they
I tell them the fiber is down. I guess I could go broke trying to be
more fault tolerant. Please understand I appreciate your feedback but
understand that my service area does not have a single fault tolerant
broadband solution. If people want fault tolerance here then the option
is to buy two
Can you do a microwave shot from another town/provider?
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See now that is the issue around
t off without notice,
period. I send the operators of "Saidcom,Inc" and the residents of "PA" my
condolances.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
See now that is the issue around here.
If we want true redundancy we need to ride two different fibers out of
town. One is the fiber we are already on, and the other is the expensive
guys Qwest.
We hate to give Qwest a dime.
Matt Liotta wrote:
Sure it is more costly than being single-homed,
Sure it is more costly than being single-homed, but being multi-homed is
pretty important. If your single provider goes down what do you tell
your customers?
-Matt
John Scrivner wrote:
Maybe it is very costly to do? Charter Pipeline service in my market
is not multi-homed either. Neither am I
Maybe it is very costly to do? Charter Pipeline service in my market is
not multi-homed either. Neither am I at this point. I used to be
multi-homed in the days when 2 T1s did the job. It is not easy to swing
redundant fiber runs in a town that is 75 miles from the nearest
telco-hotel. When I g
99!
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
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SAID is an arabic surname, we probably
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It does make you wonder why the ISP
SAID is an arabic surname, we probably have another dimention to this that has
not been explored yet. Could it be discrimination? or DHS?
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:39:26 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
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It does make you wonder why the ISP in question wasn't multi-homed.
-Matt
Tim Wolfe wrote:
Thank The good Lord above that I never signed the TelCove contract for
bandwidth last year!. I mean, you really have no idea what the local
provider was doing wrong, but to turn off a school district and
Thank The good Lord above that I never signed the TelCove contract for
bandwidth last year!. I mean, you really have no idea what the local
provider was doing wrong, but to turn off a school district and fire CO
on that system, COME ON!. You can bet the lawsuits from the school
district alone w
http://gigaom.com/2007/03/14/why-did-level-3-turn-off-a-rural-isp/
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