Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Blair Davis
Always!  I go get a GPS reading and take a look at the location before I try to plot it out Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've used Topo USA quite a bit. But in the end, going to the site is the best way. We've made links work that I'd have sworn didn't stand a chance. And others that sh

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Chuck Bartosch
y. > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Bartosch" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:13 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > >> Marlon used Brian Webster. >> >> Chuck &g

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
asy to figure out as TopoUSA or any linksys router would be a no brainer here. Brian helps me with Census tract stuff mostly. marlon - Original Message - From: "Chuck Bartosch" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've used Topo USA quite a bit. But in the end, going to the site is the best way. We've made links work that I'd have sworn didn't stand a chance. And others that should be a slam dunk work like crap. Feet on the ground. marlon - Original Message - From: "Robert West" To: "'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread David E. Smith
Brian Webster wrote: > When you map is displayed the way you want it to look, do a control c > then control v and save the new image created as whatever you want to > call it, that will make the units stay within the image. Copy and paste > as new map from the menu also works. That may not be t

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-26 Thread Scott Reed
Come on Biran, that is way too easy. Would would think to do that? Is there anything Roger hasn't put in that program? Brian Webster wrote: > When you map is displayed the way you want it to look, do a control c > then control v and save the new image created as whatever you want to > call it,

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-26 Thread Brian Webster
Title: Thank You, When you map is displayed the way you want it to look, do a control c then control v and save the new image created as whatever you want to call it, that will make the units stay within the image. Copy and paste as new map from the menu also works. Thank You, Bria

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Scott Reed
On clarification, when you save a map, RM does not save the picture. Saving a picture is a separate function. If you save the picture as a JPG, it also creates a KML file. While the picture does not have the units which you can open the kml in Google Earth. If you have the units there as well

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
Smart ass. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software I Googled for SRTM, went to the first link and

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
Thanks Mike. They make it so easy, these government operations. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread David E. Smith
Since we're sorta turning this into a general "Radio Mobile questions" thread... Anyone know how to tell Radio Mobile, when you save a map, to save units as drawn on the map, as part of the picture? When you look at a map on-screen, you can have it overlay units on the map. When you save the m

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Crash course: First uninstall anything to do with Radio Mobile Next download and install Radio

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
ptember 25, 2009 11:06 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > So how do I find out what the USGS regions are in order to choose the > correct one? I remember being here before and this is pretty much where I > gave it up. I can&#x

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
. > > Thanks! > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jerry Richardson > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Plan

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread MVTV Wireless List
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software For a quick down and dirty "is it worth looking into" Ligo's new on

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Crash course: First uninstall anything to do with Radio Mobile Next download and install Radio Mobile De

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
l the interruptions. That's my biggest issue! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Crash cour

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
I'll shoot him an email. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Why not contract

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread RickG
to:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > Howdy WISPA! > > Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel >

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software No worries :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Pla

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
ist Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software I've done the same for years. The only thing I use RM for is the backhaul links. -RickG On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Blair Davis wrote: > It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 > > Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread RickG
I've seen that too. It looked the same as Delorme. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: > I use National Geographic's Topo! software. It works quite well. Just > toss the contents of the CD-ROM into the same folder as the software > and you don't need the CD-ROM at all. > > ryan >

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread RickG
I've done the same for years. The only thing I use RM for is the backhaul links. -RickG On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Blair Davis wrote: > It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 > > Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile.  Add > the antenna heights and you shou

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
No worries :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Ah, my apologies! I guess I should have

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Chuck Bartosch
alf Of Chuck Bartosch > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:14 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > Marlon used Brian Webster. > > Chuck > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > >> Not to be repetitive, but you

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
Actually, that was me. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Marlon used Brian Webster

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Chuck Bartosch
A new game, Wireless Internet Tycoon!!! What do ya >> think? >> I've kinda ran off the rails here, sorry..... >> >> >> You want a wish list? Grab some paper, pal. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wi

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Chuck Bartosch
> On > Behalf Of David E. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:45 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > Robert West wrote: >> What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before >> you plan >&g

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Ryan Spott
I use National Geographic's Topo! software. It works quite well. Just toss the contents of the CD-ROM into the same folder as the software and you don't need the CD-ROM at all. ryan On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 > > Plot your

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
rote: > >> Corn and soybeans. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> ---------- >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> S

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
ions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Josh Luthman" > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:32 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > > That's a lot of green...where is this? > &

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Corn and soybeans. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:32 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Blair Davis
It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile. Add the antenna heights and you should have a real good idea if it will work or not. I played with Radio Mobile for a long time. It works, but Delorm is faster and eaiser for PtP l

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
lutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Robert West" > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:03 PM > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > >> I was holding this chunk

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
3, 2009 5:03 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > I was holding this chunk of Organite and praying for such a thing and now > here it is. > > Spooky. > > Get ready for the list, Shaddi. > > For one, this browser base

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread RickG
less-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of David E. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:45 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > Robert West wrote: >> What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan >

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
ez-LISTS > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:28 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > Doh. Forgot cant use HTML email and pasted images. I will see if I > cant make a PDF guide or so on how to get terrain data. > > -Israel > &g

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Scott Reed
27;ve kinda ran off the rails here, sorry. > > > You want a wish list? Grab some paper, pal. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Okay, I went through it here and getting the terrain maps is indeed the place where I give up. Anyone have a good step by step to get the map in the thing?? I totally believe the 4 hour thing. My issue is, every h

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Doh. Forgot cant use HTML email and pasted

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
; > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Jerry Richardson > > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:47 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
hour thing. My issue is, every hour... "Are you >> STILL up?!" >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jerry Richardson >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:4

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
r thing. My issue is, every hour... "Are you > STILL up?!" > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jerry Richardson > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:47 PM > To: WISPA General L

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do that it will gel. Jerry

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread richard sterne
robably one handed) > > > From: Robert West > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:19 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > You know, I haven't a clue!  It looks simple, heck yes!  Ev

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software You know, I haven't a clue! It looks simple, heck yes! Everyone says it's easy but I'll be darned if I can't get anything out of it. Now you also have to understand, when I try to work with it I have 3 kids, a cat and the wif

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
e a database of > various > > antennas and radios to pull from as well. > > > > Hey! IDEA! A new game, Wireless Internet Tycoon!!! What do ya think? > > I've kinda ran off the rails here, sorry. > > > > > > You want a wish list? Grab some paper,

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Hi Shaddi, You know what would be cool. Is a few things * Use the features of Radio Mobile as a basis for radio-propogation o SRTM3 Terrain Mapping o Flexible Radio Network Topology (VoiceNet, Master/Slave, etc,.) o Point to point link analysis o Visua

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
lf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Radio Mobile is what I typically use, but I can't help but share this: LigoWave Link Calculator <http://www.ligowave.com/linkcalc/main.html> Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
t when I've tried it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Robert West wrote: > What are y

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
pa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software > > Howdy WISPA! > > Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at U

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
ess-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working on a browser-based link planning t

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
really like the profiler Cameron has integrated into his Wispmon program. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread David E. Smith
Robert West wrote: > What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan > the build? I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I can't get > that thing to work even with the step by step instructions. I've been > finding myself just plotting elevations all the wa

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working on a browser-based link planning tool as a semester project. It will be released as open-source at the end of the semester, so we'd like it to be useful not only for our projects but for the