Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I leave the head on invade I need to have a light. Best part is I always have a battery for my drill if I run out of juice while driving lags!! ryan On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:24 AM, "Eric Rogers" wrote: > We did something similar with the pivot Dewalt flashlight. Since we > use the 18v drills, it worked perfectly. Took the flashlight part > off, and left the handle with the switch. Connected a cat5 keystone > jack...whittled out the hole where the flashlight head used to be. > Now we have a handle with a keystone sticking out the top. If we > want to power a Motorola, we use a straight through cable. If we > power Mikrotik, we use a short 2" jumper with a keystone at one end > (reverse the power blue/brown pairs) so it is a Male Female > extension. I don't have pictures, but with Moto, just power the > unit with headphones for a site-survey...Takes like 10 minutes if > that. Not lugging computers around. AMAZING!!! > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Ryan Spott > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:04 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > http://tranzeofaq.com/images/site_survey/images/ > > ryan > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eje Gustafsson > wrote: >> Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. >> >> Zoomed in: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> --- Albert Einstein >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson > router.com> wrote: >> >>> Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to >>> modify for >>> this >>> very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. >>> >>> It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One >>> + tools >>> ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool >>> new >>> Ryobi >>> One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from >>> making a >>> similar for their batteries ;) >>> >>> / Eje >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >>> >>> Josh, >>> >>> Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, >>> BEFORE >>> the >>> >>> indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the >>> Battery >>> fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? >>> >>> Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the >>> Power >>> supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp >>> junction >>> box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or >>> keep >>> track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is >>> configured for < >>> 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify >>> config and >>> then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick >>> call to >>> find out, but taht is not always the case. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >>> >>> >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> Problem solved: >>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg >>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg >>>> >>>> That's a 24v power supply. Works with
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
We did something similar with the pivot Dewalt flashlight. Since we use the 18v drills, it worked perfectly. Took the flashlight part off, and left the handle with the switch. Connected a cat5 keystone jack...whittled out the hole where the flashlight head used to be. Now we have a handle with a keystone sticking out the top. If we want to power a Motorola, we use a straight through cable. If we power Mikrotik, we use a short 2" jumper with a keystone at one end (reverse the power blue/brown pairs) so it is a Male Female extension. I don't have pictures, but with Moto, just power the unit with headphones for a site-survey...Takes like 10 minutes if that. Not lugging computers around. AMAZING!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt http://tranzeofaq.com/images/site_survey/images/ ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it... > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. > > Zoomed in: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > >> Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for >> this >> very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. >> >> It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One+ tools >> ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new >> Ryobi >> One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a >> similar for their batteries ;) >> >> / Eje >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> Josh, >> >> Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE >> the >> >> indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery >> fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? >> >> Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power >> supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction >> box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep >> track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < >> 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and >> then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to >> find out, but taht is not always the case. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> > Tom, >> > >> > Problem solved: >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg >> > >> > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and >> > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> > --- Albert Einstein >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi >> > wrote: >> > >> >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second > Ethernet >> >> port. >> >> >> >> There is good reason for that. >> >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases >> >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah an
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Cool. I love this industry, its full of resourceful people. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Ryan Spott" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt http://tranzeofaq.com/images/site_survey/images/ ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it... > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. > > Zoomed in: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson > wrote: > >> Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for >> this >> very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. >> >> It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One+ >> tools >> ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new >> Ryobi >> One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a >> similar for their batteries ;) >> >> / Eje >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> Josh, >> >> Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE >> the >> >> indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery >> fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? >> >> Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power >> supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp >> junction >> box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep >> track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < >> 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and >> then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to >> find out, but taht is not always the case. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> > Tom, >> > >> > Problem solved: >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg >> > >> > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and >> > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> > --- Albert Einstein >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi >> > wrote: >> > >> >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second > Ethernet >> >> port. >> >> >> >> There is good reason for that. >> >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases >> >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if > serving >> >> residential. >> >> >> >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >> >> a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. >> >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >> >> Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to >> >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power >> >> source, >> >> and >> >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up > and
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I would not need more than 2 portable units myself, because I have a small tech staff. Its not really a price issue per unit to me because of that. But if you were to created a partnumber/product of it, I'd guess $30 would be a reasonable street price for something like that, to be attractive enough for every WISP tech to want to buy one.. Unless, it equally worked as a splitter inside cases to feed external relay radios. Then I could see it being used in higher volume. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > If there is a demand for it, we could manufacture some of them. I > typically make them. What would you be willing to pay? $10-15 depending > on quantity? > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:49 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > Chuck, > > (3 a/b) - Great idea. Do you sell or have a source for a SOLID cable > assembly that is pinned out that way, that is durable to last carring > around > in the field? > > We custom punch down similar cable solutions inside enclosures when we > want > to extend a second ethernet port to an external relay radio, but have to > > inject power to it. > Its all solid secure and tied down inside the case, but not sure they'd > stay > togeather well, just taking a raw jack and punching it to a cable. > > For business, this doesn't help, because the goal is to connect to the > radio > without taking the customer down. But for busness we already justified > cost > of an standalone large case for a 433AH. > For residential, your solution should work really well, because the > residential user is not home, the reason for needing to connect at the > radio, and therefore no problem with taking down the system to connect > the > Maintenance cable. > > (3c) Note, when I said Rootenna, I did not really mean Rootena. I look > at > Rootenna as being a style not brand. I really meant "integrated > enclosure". > > I agree, I really like the ARC entegrated enclosures. > > I'll add When we realized Rootennas were too flimbsy for our purpose > > (its a comapny image thing), we looked for higher quality. We found that > > super high quality with the Teletronic Integrated Enclosures that was > also a > low price. But we actually stopped using them that much, atleast for > residential. The reason is that it was to hard to remove the enclosure > from > the antenna, in the field, without accidentally breaking the Pigtail, or > UFl > connector off the mCPI card. It was hard to HOLD the heavy case and > antenna > both, while unscrewing, and sometimes, that pigtail got yanked. > > What I like about the ARC system is that that is NOT the case with the > ARC. > They are sturdy and quality, but because they are squared off in shape > and a > bit smaller and lighter, its much easier to disassemble in the field, > without damaging pigtails. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Hogg" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > >>I have a fix for your need on part 3a\b\c. >> >> (3a/b) We use a cable that has a female RJ45 end, we use that to plug >> into from the home owner's cable that is run to the inside. We splice >> the data off and have another RJ45 end for Data only plugged into a >> laptop. Then one that is combine Data/Power plugging into the CPE. >> >> (3c) Use ARC Antennas with the ARC Enclosure. It is a better > performing >> antenna than any Roo. It is the same antenna that is used as an OEM >> product on many commercial PtP links (Solectek, LigoWave, etc). They >> are very similar in price. You don't have to cut the cable to access >> Ethernet. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:46 PM >> To: WISPA General L
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
http://tranzeofaq.com/images/site_survey/images/ ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it... > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. > > Zoomed in: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > >> Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for >> this >> very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. >> >> It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One+ tools >> ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new >> Ryobi >> One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a >> similar for their batteries ;) >> >> / Eje >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> Josh, >> >> Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE >> the >> >> indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery >> fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? >> >> Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power >> supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction >> box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep >> track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < >> 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and >> then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to >> find out, but taht is not always the case. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> > Tom, >> > >> > Problem solved: >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg >> > >> > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and >> > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> > --- Albert Einstein >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi >> > wrote: >> > >> >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second > Ethernet >> >> port. >> >> >> >> There is good reason for that. >> >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases >> >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if > serving >> >> residential. >> >> >> >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >> >> a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. >> >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >> >> Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to >> >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, >> >> and >> >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up > and >> >> functioning. >> >> b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done > easilly >> >> with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting >> >> distracted by customer. >> >> >> >> c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE E
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for > this > very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. > > It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One+ tools > ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new > Ryobi > One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a > similar for their batteries ;) > > / Eje > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > Josh, > > Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE > the > > indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery > fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? > > Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power > supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction > box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep > track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < > 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and > then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to > find out, but taht is not always the case. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > > Tom, > > > > Problem solved: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg > > > > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and > > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi > > wrote: > > > >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > >> port. > >> > >> There is good reason for that. > >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > >> residential. > >> > >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. > >>a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. > >>Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > >> and > >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > >> functioning. > >>b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly > >> with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > >> distracted by customer. > >> > >> c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > >> cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut > >> right > >> under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > >> opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass > >> thru > >> jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > >> > >> I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > >> enough > >> margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > >> > >> But I'
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Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for > this > very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. > > It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One+ tools > ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new > Ryobi > One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a > similar for their batteries ;) > > / Eje > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > Josh, > > Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE > the > > indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery > fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? > > Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power > supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction > box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep > track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < > 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and > then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to > find out, but taht is not always the case. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > > Tom, > > > > Problem solved: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg > > > > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and > > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi > > wrote: > > > >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > >> port. > >> > >> There is good reason for that. > >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > >> residential. > >> > >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. > >>a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. > >>Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > >> and > >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > >> functioning. > >>b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly > >> with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > >> distracted by customer. > >> > >> c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > >> cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut > >> right > >> under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > >> opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass > >> thru > >> jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > >> > >> I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > >> enough > >> margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > >> > >> But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically > >> pleasing, > >> and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 > >> footprint, and dual ether. > >> > >> I guess looking at the
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Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for this very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One+ tools ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new Ryobi One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a similar for their batteries ;) / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Josh, Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE the indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to find out, but taht is not always the case. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > Tom, > > Problem solved: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg > > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi > wrote: > >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet >> port. >> >> There is good reason for that. >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving >> residential. >> >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >>a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >>Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, >> and >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and >> functioning. >>b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly >> with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting >> distracted by customer. >> >> c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without >> cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut >> right >> under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without >> opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass >> thru >> jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. >> >> I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is >> enough >> margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. >> >> But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically >> pleasing, >> and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 >> footprint, and dual ether. >> >> I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second >> Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never >> likely occur. >> But its nice to dream. :-) >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Reed" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> >I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 >> > clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. >> > You can get them with SR/XR9. >> > >> > Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. >> > >> > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>
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If there is a demand for it, we could manufacture some of them. I typically make them. What would you be willing to pay? $10-15 depending on quantity? Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Chuck, (3 a/b) - Great idea. Do you sell or have a source for a SOLID cable assembly that is pinned out that way, that is durable to last carring around in the field? We custom punch down similar cable solutions inside enclosures when we want to extend a second ethernet port to an external relay radio, but have to inject power to it. Its all solid secure and tied down inside the case, but not sure they'd stay togeather well, just taking a raw jack and punching it to a cable. For business, this doesn't help, because the goal is to connect to the radio without taking the customer down. But for busness we already justified cost of an standalone large case for a 433AH. For residential, your solution should work really well, because the residential user is not home, the reason for needing to connect at the radio, and therefore no problem with taking down the system to connect the Maintenance cable. (3c) Note, when I said Rootenna, I did not really mean Rootena. I look at Rootenna as being a style not brand. I really meant "integrated enclosure". I agree, I really like the ARC entegrated enclosures. I'll add When we realized Rootennas were too flimbsy for our purpose (its a comapny image thing), we looked for higher quality. We found that super high quality with the Teletronic Integrated Enclosures that was also a low price. But we actually stopped using them that much, atleast for residential. The reason is that it was to hard to remove the enclosure from the antenna, in the field, without accidentally breaking the Pigtail, or UFl connector off the mCPI card. It was hard to HOLD the heavy case and antenna both, while unscrewing, and sometimes, that pigtail got yanked. What I like about the ARC system is that that is NOT the case with the ARC. They are sturdy and quality, but because they are squared off in shape and a bit smaller and lighter, its much easier to disassemble in the field, without damaging pigtails. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >I have a fix for your need on part 3a\b\c. > > (3a/b) We use a cable that has a female RJ45 end, we use that to plug > into from the home owner's cable that is run to the inside. We splice > the data off and have another RJ45 end for Data only plugged into a > laptop. Then one that is combine Data/Power plugging into the CPE. > > (3c) Use ARC Antennas with the ARC Enclosure. It is a better performing > antenna than any Roo. It is the same antenna that is used as an OEM > product on many commercial PtP links (Solectek, LigoWave, etc). They > are very similar in price. You don't have to cut the cable to access > Ethernet. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > > port. > > There is good reason for that. > 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > > residential. > > 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > and > no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > > functioning. >b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done > easilly > with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > distracted by customer. > > c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut > right > under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without
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>Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE the >indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery >fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? It's JB Weld. Fits on top of the battery. Put a tube (steel, pvc, paper towel roll) over the battery connector. I put paper towel over the battery connector and any kind of oil/grease between the paper towel and tube. Fill with JB weld. If you have something that vibrates, sit it on top and get the air to the top. Accessorize (motorola plug, sheet metal for battery clips, etc). I'm doing another one this weekend and I'll do what I can for a write up. I'll bring one to AF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Josh, > > Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE > the > indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery > fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? > > Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power > supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction > box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep > track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < > 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and > then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to > find out, but taht is not always the case. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > > Tom, > > > > Problem solved: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg > > > > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and > > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi > > wrote: > > > >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > >> port. > >> > >> There is good reason for that. > >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > >> residential. > >> > >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. > >>a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. > >>Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > >> and > >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > >> functioning. > >>b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly > >> with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > >> distracted by customer. > >> > >> c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > >> cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut > >> right > >> under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > >> opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass > >> thru > >> jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > >> > >> I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > >> enough > >> margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > >> > >> But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically > >> pleasing, > >> and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 > >> footprint, and dual ether. > >> > >> I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a > second > >> Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this wil
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Josh, Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE the indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for < 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to find out, but taht is not always the case. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > Tom, > > Problem solved: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg > > That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and > Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi > wrote: > >> What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet >> port. >> >> There is good reason for that. >> 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases >> 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving >> residential. >> >> 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >>a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. >> Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >>Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to >> second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, >> and >> no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and >> functioning. >>b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly >> with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting >> distracted by customer. >> >> c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without >> cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut >> right >> under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without >> opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass >> thru >> jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. >> >> I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is >> enough >> margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. >> >> But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically >> pleasing, >> and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 >> footprint, and dual ether. >> >> I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second >> Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never >> likely occur. >> But its nice to dream. :-) >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Reed" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> >I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 >> > clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. >> > You can get them with SR/XR9. >> > >> > Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. >> > >> > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >> I'll order one to try out. >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> marlon >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save >> >>> $50+. >> >>> >> >>> http://quicklinkwirele
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We used to ground them when we were using Trango CPE with Canopy SS300. For business and Mikrotik we do, because PVC outside, and Plenum inside, so need the junction anyway. But now with Mikrotik residnetial style outdoor equipment, and connecting to cheap indoor SOHO router, its so darn inexpensive for a CPE, its not worth the time or cost to grounding the CAT5 outdoors anymore. IF we use a Metal Mast for mounting, we still Ground the Mast for lightning protection. As well, with Residential, The CAT5 often needs to get run straight into the attic or sophet. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > Don't you ground your installations prior to coming into the house? We > have grounding blocks that are just ethernet jacks, and a small 12 volt > DC battery and injector to plug right into outside. no splicing > required. > > --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, > MTCTCE, MTCUME > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > > port. > > There is good reason for that. > 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > > residential. > > 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > and > no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > > functioning. >b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done > easilly > with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > distracted by customer. > > c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut > right > under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass > thru > jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > > I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > enough > margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > > But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically > pleasing, > and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 > footprint, and dual ether. > > I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a > second > Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never > likely occur. > But its nice to dream. :-) > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Reed" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > >>I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 >> clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. >> You can get them with SR/XR9. >> >> Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> I'll order one to try out. >>> >>> thanks, >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >>> >>> >>> >>>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save > $50+. >>>> >>>> > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >>>> >>>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the > office >>>> build them and test
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Chuck, (3 a/b) - Great idea. Do you sell or have a source for a SOLID cable assembly that is pinned out that way, that is durable to last carring around in the field? We custom punch down similar cable solutions inside enclosures when we want to extend a second ethernet port to an external relay radio, but have to inject power to it. Its all solid secure and tied down inside the case, but not sure they'd stay togeather well, just taking a raw jack and punching it to a cable. For business, this doesn't help, because the goal is to connect to the radio without taking the customer down. But for busness we already justified cost of an standalone large case for a 433AH. For residential, your solution should work really well, because the residential user is not home, the reason for needing to connect at the radio, and therefore no problem with taking down the system to connect the Maintenance cable. (3c) Note, when I said Rootenna, I did not really mean Rootena. I look at Rootenna as being a style not brand. I really meant "integrated enclosure". I agree, I really like the ARC entegrated enclosures. I'll add When we realized Rootennas were too flimbsy for our purpose (its a comapny image thing), we looked for higher quality. We found that super high quality with the Teletronic Integrated Enclosures that was also a low price. But we actually stopped using them that much, atleast for residential. The reason is that it was to hard to remove the enclosure from the antenna, in the field, without accidentally breaking the Pigtail, or UFl connector off the mCPI card. It was hard to HOLD the heavy case and antenna both, while unscrewing, and sometimes, that pigtail got yanked. What I like about the ARC system is that that is NOT the case with the ARC. They are sturdy and quality, but because they are squared off in shape and a bit smaller and lighter, its much easier to disassemble in the field, without damaging pigtails. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >I have a fix for your need on part 3a\b\c. > > (3a/b) We use a cable that has a female RJ45 end, we use that to plug > into from the home owner's cable that is run to the inside. We splice > the data off and have another RJ45 end for Data only plugged into a > laptop. Then one that is combine Data/Power plugging into the CPE. > > (3c) Use ARC Antennas with the ARC Enclosure. It is a better performing > antenna than any Roo. It is the same antenna that is used as an OEM > product on many commercial PtP links (Solectek, LigoWave, etc). They > are very similar in price. You don't have to cut the cable to access > Ethernet. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > > port. > > There is good reason for that. > 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > > residential. > > 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > and > no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > > functioning. >b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done > easilly > with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > distracted by customer. > > c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut > right > under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass > thru > jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > > I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > enough > margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > > But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically > pleasing, > and high power, that does not sacrifice features.
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Try #3 in sending this with a link removed. We guarantee our workmanship in the assembly. For example, if for some reason water were to get in because of our failure to make sure the unit is sealed properly, we will replace it. The warranty sticker must be intact. If it is a component failure, the warranty for the component applies. We have cross-shipped replacements for clients in good standing and a credit card on account. Kits are available on the website. If you wish to modify components, let us know and we will add those to the kit options. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Thanks Chuck. What's an RJ45-ECS? What's the warrantee on these units? Are there other antenna size choices? I really like the Pac Wireless pass through connectors. I hate having to take a screw driver up with me much to depress the tab on an ethernet connection! laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > Normally, We do the RJ45-ECS. Some customers prefer it the other way, > and a build may have been done without. I agree they are a pain, I > prefer with RJ45-ECS as well. Make sure you have your account setup for > WISPA (Coupon Code: FREEBUILD), and you get the builds done for free on > these kits. If you have any special requests for QLW, just put them in > the notes section of your order and we will make it happen. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. > > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= > > I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office > build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 > builds/hr). > > Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do > not > use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, > though > if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can > see > the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a > grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). > > I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty > which > can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I > made > be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these > then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box >> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. >> >> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder > joint. >> >> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to > 20 or >> 25% here. >> >> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is > NOT >> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in > places >> that >> the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -
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Don't you ground your installations prior to coming into the house? We have grounding blocks that are just ethernet jacks, and a small 12 volt DC battery and injector to plug right into outside. no splicing required. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet port. There is good reason for that. 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving residential. 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, and no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and functioning. b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting distracted by customer. c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut right under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass thru jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is enough margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically pleasing, and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 footprint, and dual ether. I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never likely occur. But its nice to dream. :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Scott Reed" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 > clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. > You can get them with SR/XR9. > > Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> I'll order one to try out. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> >>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. >>> >>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >>> >>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office >>> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 >>> builds/hr). >>> >>> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do >>> not >>> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, >>> though >>> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can >>> see >>> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a >>> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). >>> >>> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty >>> which >>> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I >>> made >>> be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these >>> then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM,
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Tom, Problem solved: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > port. > > There is good reason for that. > 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > residential. > > 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, and > no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > functioning. >b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly > with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > distracted by customer. > > c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut right > under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass thru > jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > > I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > enough > margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > > But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically > pleasing, > and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 > footprint, and dual ether. > > I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second > Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never > likely occur. > But its nice to dream. :-) > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Reed" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > >I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 > > clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. > > You can get them with SR/XR9. > > > > Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. > > > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> I'll order one to try out. > >> > >> thanks, > >> marlon > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Josh Luthman" > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > >> > >> > >> > >>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. > >>> > >>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= > >>> > >>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office > >>> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 > >>> builds/hr). > >>> > >>> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do > >>> not > >>> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, > >>> though > >>> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can > >>> see > >>> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on > a > >>> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). > >>> > >>> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty > >>> which > >>> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I > >>> made > >>> be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with > these > >>> then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy
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2) There is a regular 433 that's half way between the 411 and the 433AH. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Tom DeReggi" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:45 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > port. > > There is good reason for that. > 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > residential. > > 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. >a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. >Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, > and > no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > functioning. >b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly > with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > distracted by customer. > > c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut right > under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass > thru > jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > > I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is > enough > margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > > But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically > pleasing, > and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 > footprint, and dual ether. > > I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second > Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never > likely occur. > But its nice to dream. :-) > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Reed" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > >>I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 >> clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. >> You can get them with SR/XR9. >> >> Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> I'll order one to try out. >>> >>> thanks, >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >>> >>> >>> >>>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. >>>> >>>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >>>> >>>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office >>>> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 >>>> builds/hr). >>>> >>>> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do >>>> not >>>> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, >>>> though >>>> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can >>>> see >>>> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on >>>> a >>>> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). >>>> >>>> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty >>>> which >>>> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I >>>> made >>>> be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with >>>> these >>>> then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>
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RJ45-ECS = pac wireless pass thru connectors http://images.google.com/images?q=rj45-ecs&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi It's a female rj45 connect outside (so you plug your outdoor cable into it, then through the house to a POE) and a patch cable you plug into the rb411. Steep at $10 some places but even then it's well worth it. There is a 19 or 20 dbi 5ghz panel for ARC enclosures. I have always used the 23dbi panel. Remember the ARC stuff is antenna+enclosure - it all ties together so when you get to the customer site all you do is mount it and run the cat5. If you hate using something to remove the cable (which you shouldn't need to do often at all, I don't I personally ever have had to from these units) you will NEED the rj45-ecs. You can remove the cable if you have tiny fingers and can roll your fingertip from the side of the clip. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Thanks Chuck. > > What's an RJ45-ECS? > > What's the warrantee on these units? > > Are there other antenna size choices? > > I really like the Pac Wireless pass through connectors. I hate having to > take a screw driver up with me much to depress the tab on an ethernet > connection! > > laters, > marlon > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Hogg" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > > Normally, We do the RJ45-ECS. Some customers prefer it the other way, > > and a build may have been done without. I agree they are a pain, I > > prefer with RJ45-ECS as well. Make sure you have your account setup for > > WISPA (Coupon Code: FREEBUILD), and you get the builds done for free on > > these kits. If you have any special requests for QLW, just put them in > > the notes section of your order and we will make it happen. > > > > Regards, > > Chuck Hogg > > Shelby Broadband > > 502-722-9292 > > ch...@shelbybb.com > > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > > How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. > > > > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= > > > > I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office > > build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 > > builds/hr). > > > > Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do > > not > > use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, > > though > > if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can > > see > > the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a > > grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). > > > > I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty > > which > > can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I > > made > > be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these > > then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > > wrote: > > > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box > >> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. > >> > >> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder > > joint. > >> > >> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to > > 20 or > >> 25% here. > >> > >> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is > > NOT > >> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in > > places > >> that > >
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
Give the tech a "break-out" box. A box with 2 Enet jacks and a pigtail with a plug. The plug get only the data pairs from one jack and plugs in the laptop. The power pairs get connected from one jack to the other. The jack with all 4 pair is labeled RADIO. The jack with only data pairs is labeled POWER. Plug the cable from inside into the POWER jack. Plug a patch cable into the RADIO jack and the radio. Plug the pigtail in the laptop. I use this all the time. Actually for installs, I have a power supply in the truck and a 250' ethernet cable on a spool. Plug the cable in the truck power supply. Plug the other end in the break-out box and away you go. On installs above the roof, put a test box at ground level. Just a Enet plug and jack. Insert the break-out box here and even with no one home you can connect. Tom DeReggi wrote: > What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet > port. > > There is good reason for that. > 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases > 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving > residential. > > 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. > a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. > Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. > Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to > second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, and > no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and > functioning. > b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly > with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting > distracted by customer. > >c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without > cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut right > under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without > opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass thru > jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. > > I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is enough > margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. > > But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically pleasing, > and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 > footprint, and dual ether. > > I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second > Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never > likely occur. > But its nice to dream. :-) > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Reed" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > >> I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 >> clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. >> You can get them with SR/XR9. >> >> Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> I'll order one to try out. >>> >>> thanks, >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. >>>> >>>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >>>> >>>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office >>>> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 >>>> builds/hr). >>>> >>>> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do >>>> not >>>> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, >>>> though >>>> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can >>>> see >>>> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a >>>> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). >>>> >>>> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty >>>> which >>>> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I >>>&
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I have a fix for your need on part 3a\b\c. (3a/b) We use a cable that has a female RJ45 end, we use that to plug into from the home owner's cable that is run to the inside. We splice the data off and have another RJ45 end for Data only plugged into a laptop. Then one that is combine Data/Power plugging into the CPE. (3c) Use ARC Antennas with the ARC Enclosure. It is a better performing antenna than any Roo. It is the same antenna that is used as an OEM product on many commercial PtP links (Solectek, LigoWave, etc). They are very similar in price. You don't have to cut the cable to access Ethernet. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet port. There is good reason for that. 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving residential. 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, and no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and functioning. b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting distracted by customer. c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut right under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass thru jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is enough margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically pleasing, and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 footprint, and dual ether. I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never likely occur. But its nice to dream. :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Scott Reed" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 > clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. > You can get them with SR/XR9. > > Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> I'll order one to try out. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> >>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. >>> >>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >>> >>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office >>> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 >>> builds/hr). >>> >>> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do >>> not >>> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, >>> though >>> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can >>> see >>> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a >>> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). >>> >>> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty >>> which >>> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I >>> made >>> be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these >>> then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to c
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet port. There is good reason for that. 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving residential. 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, and no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and functioning. b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly with Laptop right there at radio, without going inside and getting distracted by customer. c) We want a case that lets us remove the POE Ethernet jack without cutting/recrimping it, and we want an easy access hole/plate pre-cut right under the second ethernet port, so its easy to quickly access without opening rootenna case, or without incurring a signficant cost for pass thru jack that is not really needed for a temp eth connection port. I really like the 433AH for our commercial installs, because there is enough margin there to justify stand alone larger cases and stuff. But I'd still like a rock bottom cost CPE only, thats cosmetically pleasing, and high power, that does not sacrifice features. This requires a 411 footprint, and dual ether. I guess looking at the 411, there really isn't any room to place a second Eth, and would require a PCB layout change, so I guess this will never likely occur. But its nice to dream. :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Scott Reed" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 > clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. > You can get them with SR/XR9. > > Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> I'll order one to try out. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt >> >> >> >>> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. >>> >>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >>> >>> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office >>> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 >>> builds/hr). >>> >>> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do >>> not >>> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, >>> though >>> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can >>> see >>> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a >>> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). >>> >>> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty >>> which >>> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I >>> made >>> be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these >>> then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box >>>> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. >>>> >>>> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder >>>> joint. >>>> >>>> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 >>>> or >>>> 25% here. >>>> >>>> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is >>>> NOT >>>> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig v
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
Marlon, What do you want? WE build to order! http://store.jeffcosoho.com/product_p/2415-411-24i.htm http://store.jeffcosoho.com/product_p/2415-433-xr2-r52-24i-sp.htm If you need qtys, call ! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Hi All, I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder joint. Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 or 25% here. Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is NOT the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in places that the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
Thanks Chuck. What's an RJ45-ECS? What's the warrantee on these units? Are there other antenna size choices? I really like the Pac Wireless pass through connectors. I hate having to take a screw driver up with me much to depress the tab on an ethernet connection! laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > Normally, We do the RJ45-ECS. Some customers prefer it the other way, > and a build may have been done without. I agree they are a pain, I > prefer with RJ45-ECS as well. Make sure you have your account setup for > WISPA (Coupon Code: FREEBUILD), and you get the builds done for free on > these kits. If you have any special requests for QLW, just put them in > the notes section of your order and we will make it happen. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. > > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= > > I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office > build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 > builds/hr). > > Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do > not > use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, > though > if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can > see > the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a > grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). > > I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty > which > can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I > made > be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these > then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box >> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. >> >> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder > joint. >> >> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to > 20 or >> 25% here. >> >> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is > NOT >> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in > places >> that >> the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. You can get them with SR/XR9. Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > I'll order one to try out. > > thanks, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > >> How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. >> >> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= >> >> I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office >> build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 >> builds/hr). >> >> Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do not >> use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, >> though >> if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can >> see >> the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a >> grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). >> >> I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty >> which >> can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I >> made >> be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these >> then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> --- Albert Einstein >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box >>> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. >>> >>> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder >>> joint. >>> >>> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 >>> or >>> 25% here. >>> >>> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is NOT >>> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in places >>> that >>> the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. >>> >>> thanks, >>> marlon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I strongly suggest you order 5, but I can't force you to =) Reply to this thread if you have any questions at all. I can't imagine why you won't start using these, especially in place of the poynt stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > I'll order one to try out. > > thanks, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > > > > How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. > > > > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= > > > > I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office > > build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 > > builds/hr). > > > > Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do not > > use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, > > though > > if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can > > see > > the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a > > grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). > > > > I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty > > which > > can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I > > made > > be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these > > then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > > wrote: > > > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box > >> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. > >> > >> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder > >> joint. > >> > >> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 > >> or > >> 25% here. > >> > >> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is > NOT > >> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in places > >> that > >> the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. > >> > >> thanks, > >> marlon > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I'll order one to try out. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt > How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. > > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= > > I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office > build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 > builds/hr). > > Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do not > use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, > though > if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can > see > the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a > grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). > > I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty > which > can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I > made > be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these > then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box >> problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. >> >> One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder >> joint. >> >> Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 >> or >> 25% here. >> >> Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is NOT >> the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in places >> that >> the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
Normally, We do the RJ45-ECS. Some customers prefer it the other way, and a build may have been done without. I agree they are a pain, I prefer with RJ45-ECS as well. Make sure you have your account setup for WISPA (Coupon Code: FREEBUILD), and you get the builds done for free on these kits. If you have any special requests for QLW, just put them in the notes section of your order and we will make it happen. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 builds/hr). Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do not use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, though if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can see the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty which can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I made be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box > problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. > > One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder joint. > > Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 or > 25% here. > > Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is NOT > the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in places > that > the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. > > thanks, > marlon > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52&eq= I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 builds/hr). Some of them they did build as I made a mistake on ordering. They do not use the rj45-ecs but rather put the 411 up to the connectivity hole, though if you ask I expect they will. I absolute can NOT STAND THAT. You can see the link lights, but it is a absolute bear to plug it in (or it was on a grain leg and water tower Saturday before last in the cold windy snow). I love the mounting system. Their only flaw is they are a bit weighty which can be tiring. I have had nothing but success with these antennas. I made be flogged for saying this, but my experience has been better with these then Motorola 5700s (on a different tower). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box > problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. > > One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder joint. > > Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 or > 25% here. > > Anyone know of a nice pre-built kit that I can use instead? Price is NOT > the top priority here. I'm just using these 5.8 gig versions in places > that > the 2.4 is maxed out or for higher end business customers. > > thanks, > marlon > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
