Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of

2007-01-25 Thread Peter R.
wispa wrote: The only time that makes sense, is when it pays to do it, that's why. So why and how would someone profit from doing it. Answer that question, and you'll answer why there are broadband problems in the US (if there really is any) and it won't require a single confidentiality bre

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US

2007-01-24 Thread wispa
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:52:37 -0600, Jory Privett wrote > I do not think Peters argument was that the data should be shared. > I think he is against that as much as anyone. BUT what needs to > happen is that someone needs to check and verify the data that is > collected. The FCC does no revi

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US

2007-01-24 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Scriv, Below is the link to the report you were speaking about. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06426.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: I can agree that over-sight is in order. I think the General Accounting Office actually did this. Didn't the report get sent out here a whil

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US

2007-01-24 Thread wispa
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:36:49 -0600, John Scrivner wrote > The government cannot request data with a note saying it is > confidential and then turn around and say it is not. That is not > going to fly. If my data is shared with others then I will file suit > against the FCC myself. Peter, how can

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US

2007-01-24 Thread John Scrivner
MAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US The government cannot request data with a note saying it is confidential and then turn around and say it is not. Tha

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-24 Thread Jack Unger
And yet another point of view: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061016/nichols Yes, there has been an "Abolish the FCC" movement alive for at least 10 and probably 20 years. FOMHR (For Our Many Happy Readers) here are two (of the many) points of view: http://news.com.com/2010-1028-5226979.ht

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US

2007-01-24 Thread Jory Privett
eral List" Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US The government cannot request data with a note saying it is confidential and then turn around and say it is not. That is not going to fly. If my d

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US

2007-01-24 Thread John Scrivner
Broadband - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US You know that if they don'

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US

2007-01-24 Thread Peter R.
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US You know that if they don't want to give up the raw data that they have fudged the heck out of

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US

2007-01-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
eral List" Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US You know that if they don't want to give up the raw data that they have fudged the heck out of it! It has been suggested by many folks, inclu

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread Jack Unger
Yes, there has been an "Abolish the FCC" movement alive for at least 10 and probably 20 years. FOMHR (For Our Many Happy Readers) here are two (of the many) points of view: http://news.com.com/2010-1028-5226979.html http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2005/05/b677863.html jack Peter R.

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread John Scrivner
Sorry to answer my own post but some clarifications are in order. I am not trying to state that I am satisfied, in any way, with the FCC by my desire to keep them intact. I am only stating that I do not think it is within the power of our own government to produce a different regulatory framew

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread John Scrivner
Killing the FCC would simply place the responsibility for the regulatory control of the spectrum in the US to another federal agency. Not sure I buy into the idea that one fed agency (even if created from scratch) can do things better than what we have now. Scriv Peter R. wrote: You know th

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
ry 23, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US You know that if they don't want to give up the raw data that they have fudged the heck out of it! It has been suggested by many folks, including Peter Huber, that it might b

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
, marlon - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US CPI suing FCC to get at real state o

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread Peter R.
You know that if they don't want to give up the raw data that they have fudged the heck out of it! It has been suggested by many folks, including Peter Huber, that it might be time to put the FCC out to pasture. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://

[WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US

2007-01-23 Thread Dawn DiPietro
CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadband competition in the US 1/22/2007 1:46:18 PM, by Nate Anderson The Center for Public Integrity (CPI) wants to find out exactly how competitive the US broadband market is. To do that, it needs access to the raw data collected by the FCC, but the ag