Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-21 Thread Robert West
Marco, I've told you before.  No playing with the thermite.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

It was ok till I tried the thermite grenade to keep warm

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Robert West
 wrote:
> U..  I'm trying to keep that visual out of my head.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marco Coelho
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> I keep on in my pants for those cold winter nights!
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>> Hey!  Only $6.99 at Amazon!
>>
>> That little item looks to be a very useful thing.
>>
>>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Prism-Technologies-Proheat-Reusable-Warmer/dp/B000C9DC
>> G8
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>> Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
>> (reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a
> small
>> metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
>> they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again
just
>> boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use
> just
>> pop the button again.
>>
>> You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
>> numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might
> be
>> lot cheaper today..
>>
>> /Eje
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>> I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
>> transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>> I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per
>> regularly.  Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> mg
>>
>> At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>>>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>>>
>>>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh,
> they
>>>act like they will, but they wont.
>>>
>>>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>>>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>>>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>>>
>>>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those
> chemical
>>>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
>> have
>>>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>>>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>>>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
>> going
>>>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your
> hands
>>>stay.
>>>
>>>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and
that'll
>>>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up
> too
>>>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
>> legs
>>>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd
have
>>>never guessed that that could have happened!
>>>
>>>laters,
>>>marlon
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Robert West" 
>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>>
>>>
&g

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-21 Thread Josh Luthman
I bet your hands were warm to the end of their existence!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

> It was ok till I tried the thermite grenade to keep warm
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Robert West
>  wrote:
> > U..  I'm trying to keep that visual out of my head.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Marco Coelho
> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:29 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > I keep on in my pants for those cold winter nights!
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robert West  >
> > wrote:
> >> Hey!  Only $6.99 at Amazon!
> >>
> >> That little item looks to be a very useful thing.
> >>
> >>
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Prism-Technologies-Proheat-Reusable-Warmer/dp/B000C9DC
> >> G8
> >>
> >> Bob-
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:30 PM
> >> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >>
> >> Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
> >> (reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a
> > small
> >> metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
> >> they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again
> just
> >> boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use
> > just
> >> pop the button again.
> >>
> >> You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
> >> numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might
> > be
> >> lot cheaper today..
> >>
> >> /Eje
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Robert West
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
> >> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >>
> >> I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
> >> transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7
> hours.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Mike
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >>
> >> I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per
> >> regularly.  Thanks for the tip.
> >>
> >> mg
> >>
> >> At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
> >>>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
> >>>
> >>>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh,
> > they
> >>>act like they will, but they wont.
> >>>
> >>>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
> >>>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
> >>>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
> >>>
> >>>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those
> > chemical
> >>>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
> >> have
> >>>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at
> all,
> >>>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
> >>>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
> >> going
> >>>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your
> > hands
> >>>stay.
> >>>
> >>>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and
> that'll
> >>>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up
> > too
> >>>muc

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-21 Thread Marco Coelho
It was ok till I tried the thermite grenade to keep warm

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Robert West
 wrote:
> U..  I'm trying to keep that visual out of my head.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marco Coelho
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> I keep on in my pants for those cold winter nights!
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>> Hey!  Only $6.99 at Amazon!
>>
>> That little item looks to be a very useful thing.
>>
>>
> http://www.amazon.com/Prism-Technologies-Proheat-Reusable-Warmer/dp/B000C9DC
>> G8
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>> Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
>> (reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a
> small
>> metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
>> they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again just
>> boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use
> just
>> pop the button again.
>>
>> You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
>> numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might
> be
>> lot cheaper today..
>>
>> /Eje
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>> I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
>> transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>> I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per
>> regularly.  Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> mg
>>
>> At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>>>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>>>
>>>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh,
> they
>>>act like they will, but they wont.
>>>
>>>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>>>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>>>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>>>
>>>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those
> chemical
>>>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
>> have
>>>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>>>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>>>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
>> going
>>>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your
> hands
>>>stay.
>>>
>>>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>>>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up
> too
>>>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
>> legs
>>>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>>>never guessed that that could have happened!
>>>
>>>laters,
>>>marlon
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Robert West" 
>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>>
>>>
>>> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
>>> > holding
>>> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best
> estimation.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-21 Thread Robert West
U..  I'm trying to keep that visual out of my head.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

I keep on in my pants for those cold winter nights!

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robert West 
wrote:
> Hey!  Only $6.99 at Amazon!
>
> That little item looks to be a very useful thing.
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Prism-Technologies-Proheat-Reusable-Warmer/dp/B000C9DC
> G8
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:30 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
> (reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a
small
> metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
> they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again just
> boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use
just
> pop the button again.
>
> You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
> numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might
be
> lot cheaper today..
>
> /Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
> transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per
> regularly.  Thanks for the tip.
>
> mg
>
> At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>>
>>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh,
they
>>act like they will, but they wont.
>>
>>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>>
>>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those
chemical
>>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
> have
>>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
> going
>>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your
hands
>>stay.
>>
>>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up
too
>>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
> legs
>>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>>never guessed that that could have happened!
>>
>>laters,
>>marlon
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Robert West" 
>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>>
>> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
>> > holding
>> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best
estimation.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>> >
>> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
>> > decent - they freeze at 50!
>> >
>> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
>> >> I'm a

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-21 Thread Marco Coelho
I keep on in my pants for those cold winter nights!

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robert West  wrote:
> Hey!  Only $6.99 at Amazon!
>
> That little item looks to be a very useful thing.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Prism-Technologies-Proheat-Reusable-Warmer/dp/B000C9DC
> G8
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:30 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
> (reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a small
> metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
> they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again just
> boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use just
> pop the button again.
>
> You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
> numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might be
> lot cheaper today..
>
> /Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
> transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per
> regularly.  Thanks for the tip.
>
> mg
>
> At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>>
>>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they
>>act like they will, but they wont.
>>
>>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>>
>>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical
>>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
> have
>>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
> going
>>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands
>>stay.
>>
>>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too
>>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
> legs
>>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>>never guessed that that could have happened!
>>
>>laters,
>>marlon
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Robert West" 
>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>>
>>
>> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
>> > holding
>> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>> >
>> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
>> > decent - they freeze at 50!
>> >
>> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
>> >> I'm an idiot.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
>> >> Drive
>> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
>> >> all
>> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
>> >> Home.
>

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Robert West
Hey!  Only $6.99 at Amazon!

That little item looks to be a very useful thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Prism-Technologies-Proheat-Reusable-Warmer/dp/B000C9DC
G8

Bob-




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
(reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a small
metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again just
boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use just
pop the button again. 

You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might be
lot cheaper today..

/Eje

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per 
regularly.  Thanks for the tip.

mg

At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>
>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they
>act like they will, but they wont.
>
>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>
>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical
>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
have
>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
going
>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands
>stay.
>
>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too
>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
legs
>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>never guessed that that could have happened!
>
>laters,
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Robert West" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
>
> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
> > holding
> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> > decent - they freeze at 50!
> >
> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >> I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
> >> Drive
> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> >> all
> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
> >> Home.
> >> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> >> because I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert West
> >>
> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >>
> >> 740-335-7020
> >>
> >&g

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Talk about hand warmers. I saw at the dollar tree they had hand warmers
(reusable). I had those reusable before ad they are GREAT. There is a small
metal "button" inside you "pop" and it starts to get warm. After a while
they start to cool down ad start to get hard. To make it usable again just
boil it and it gets soft again and once it gets cool it's ready to use just
pop the button again. 

You could find them before in wild life stores but they seemed to be
numerous dollars there but been a while since I looked for them so might be
lot cheaper today..

/Eje

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per 
regularly.  Thanks for the tip.

mg

At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>
>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they
>act like they will, but they wont.
>
>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>
>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical
>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
have
>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
going
>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands
>stay.
>
>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too
>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
legs
>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>never guessed that that could have happened!
>
>laters,
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Robert West" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
>
> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
> > holding
> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> > decent - they freeze at 50!
> >
> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >> I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
> >> Drive
> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> >> all
> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
> >> Home.
> >> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> >> because I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert West
> >>
> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >>
> >> 740-335-7020
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
>

> > 
> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> >> http://signup.wispa.org/
> >>
> > 
>

> > 
> >>
> >> WISPA Wirele

Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Robert West
I picked up whole box of them tonight at Advance Auto while getting some
transmission fluid.  20 in a box, 89 cents each.  Says will last 7 hours.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per 
regularly.  Thanks for the tip.

mg

At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>
>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they
>act like they will, but they wont.
>
>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>
>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical
>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I
have
>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood
going
>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands
>stay.
>
>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too
>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my
legs
>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>never guessed that that could have happened!
>
>laters,
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Robert West" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
>
> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
> > holding
> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> > decent - they freeze at 50!
> >
> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >> I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
> >> Drive
> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> >> all
> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
> >> Home.
> >> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> >> because I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert West
> >>
> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >>
> >> 740-335-7020
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
>

> > 
> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> >> http://signup.wispa.org/
> >>
> > 
>

> > 
> >>
> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > 
>

> > 
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Mike
I like the hand warmer idea.  I see em for less than a buck per 
regularly.  Thanks for the tip.

mg

At 02:01 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.
>
>It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they
>act like they will, but they wont.
>
>Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last
>thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just
>doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.
>
>OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical
>hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I have
>to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all,
>can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where
>you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood going
>into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands
>stay.
>
>You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll
>help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too
>much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my legs
>from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have
>never guessed that that could have happened!
>
>laters,
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert West" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
>
> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
> > holding
> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> > decent - they freeze at 50!
> >
> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >> I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
> >> Drive
> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> >> all
> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
> >> Home.
> >> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> >> because I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert West
> >>
> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >>
> >> 740-335-7020
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> 
> > 
> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> >> http://signup.wispa.org/
> >>
> > 
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
> >>
> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
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> >>
> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> > 
> > WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> > http://signup.wispa.org/
> > 
> 
> > 
> >
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> >
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Robert West
You mean my freezing to death isn't worth the price of someone going to
Lolcats.com?  I shudder at the thought!

My issue was it was nice and sunny.  I rationalized myself into going up.
HA!  I now have a pair of cheap Thinisulate gloves from Wal-Mart in every
toolbox.  (60 bucks worth, cold motivates a person to spend cash)  I figure
I have rubber tape in every nook and cranny of the work van, may as well
have gloves and hats bouncing around all over too.

Bob-




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.

It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they 
act like they will, but they wont.

Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last 
thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just 
doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.

OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical 
hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I have

to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all, 
can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where 
you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood going

into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands 
stay.

You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll 
help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too 
much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my legs

from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have 
never guessed that that could have happened!

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert West" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot


> Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while 
> holding
> onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> decent - they freeze at 50!
>
> On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
>> I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower. 
>> Drive
>> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, 
>> all
>> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves? 
>> Home.
>> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> Certainly,
>> because I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>> 740-335-7020
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

> 
>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>
>

> 
>>
>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>>
>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
>

> 
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, you are an id10t!  Yikes.

It's only internet guys!  NO ONE IS GONNA DIE if it doesn't work.  Oh, they 
act like they will, but they wont.

Safety first, and last.  If you aren't safe out there, it'll be the last 
thing you do in this business or any other.  We get in enough jams just 
doing what we have to do.  Lets not compound the problem.

OK, having said that.  I keep a box full (yes a box full) of those chemical 
hand and foot warmers in the car this time of year.  EVERY car.  When I have 
to work outside for any amount of time (I tend to not wear gloves at all, 
can't work with them) I tape one to the inside of my wrist.  Right where 
you'd check your pulse.  That does an amazing job of warming the blood going 
into your hands.  Try it some time, you'll be amazed at how warm your hands 
stay.

You can also put one or two of them in your front pants pocket and that'll 
help keep your feet warm.  I found out that riding a dirt bike stirs up too 
much air and they get really hot!  I ended up with blistered skin on my legs 
from a couple of them.  If they start to feel too hot, they are.  I'd have 
never guessed that that could have happened!

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert West" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot


> Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while 
> holding
> onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> decent - they freeze at 50!
>
> On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
>> I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower. 
>> Drive
>> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, 
>> all
>> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves? 
>> Home.
>> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> Certainly,
>> because I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>> 740-335-7020
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>
> 
> 
>>
>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>>
>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
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>>
>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> 
> 
> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-17 Thread Robert West
Living with a female has taught me that I must openly admit that I am an
idiot at every opportunity or risk being perceived as thinking that I am
"Mr. Perfect" or thinking that "I am never wrong".  I have been trying to
mend my ways and try to understand that no matter what I do that feels like
an accomplishment, it is, in fact, a failure.  I'm learning.

As the Possum Lodge "Man's Prayer" goes...

"I'm a man and I can change.  If I have to.  I guess."

Bob-



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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

Such revelations can be most helpful in guiding future actions.

however, public admissions of said revelations can be, err...   Well, I'll 
just pretend I never read it and you pretend you never said it...

Hey, anyone read the bit in the news... about the job you should be EVER so 
grateful you do NOT currently hold?

It seems that the "climate conference" in Denmark is open to specific 
organizations, which have to meet specific qualifications.   Best estimates 
say that approximately 35,000 to 40,000 people hold credentials to be 
admitted to the conference.

Some planner reserved a building that only holds about 15,000.There's 
thousands of people who cannot get admission, though they have proper 
credentials.   Many of them are waiting outside for spaces to open up 
inside...  In sub zero (F) weather.

The story goes that in the minor leagues, a young and inexperienced relief 
pitcher was called in on the final inning, and second batter up drove a home

run off the first pitch.In the aftermath of the game,  the young pitcher

discovered a famous pennant winning pitcher for a major league big city team

was in the stands and he asked advice... "How would you have pitched that 
last one?"  he asked.Without hesitation, the famous veteran said "Under 
an assumed name".

That planner should probably have done the same.

:)



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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Robert West
Most of the time I don't need to utter a single word and still I'm able to
announce same.



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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

Such revelations can be most helpful in guiding future actions.

however, public admissions of said revelations can be, err...   Well, I'll 
just pretend I never read it and you pretend you never said it...

Hey, anyone read the bit in the news... about the job you should be EVER so 
grateful you do NOT currently hold?

It seems that the "climate conference" in Denmark is open to specific 
organizations, which have to meet specific qualifications.   Best estimates 
say that approximately 35,000 to 40,000 people hold credentials to be 
admitted to the conference.

Some planner reserved a building that only holds about 15,000.There's 
thousands of people who cannot get admission, though they have proper 
credentials.   Many of them are waiting outside for spaces to open up 
inside...  In sub zero (F) weather.

The story goes that in the minor leagues, a young and inexperienced relief 
pitcher was called in on the final inning, and second batter up drove a home

run off the first pitch.In the aftermath of the game,  the young pitcher

discovered a famous pennant winning pitcher for a major league big city team

was in the stands and he asked advice... "How would you have pitched that 
last one?"  he asked.Without hesitation, the famous veteran said "Under 
an assumed name".

That planner should probably have done the same.

:)



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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:15 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

> I'm an idiot.
 





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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread MDK
Such revelations can be most helpful in guiding future actions.

however, public admissions of said revelations can be, err...   Well, I'll 
just pretend I never read it and you pretend you never said it...

Hey, anyone read the bit in the news... about the job you should be EVER so 
grateful you do NOT currently hold?

It seems that the "climate conference" in Denmark is open to specific 
organizations, which have to meet specific qualifications.   Best estimates 
say that approximately 35,000 to 40,000 people hold credentials to be 
admitted to the conference.

Some planner reserved a building that only holds about 15,000.There's 
thousands of people who cannot get admission, though they have proper 
credentials.   Many of them are waiting outside for spaces to open up 
inside...  In sub zero (F) weather.

The story goes that in the minor leagues, a young and inexperienced relief 
pitcher was called in on the final inning, and second batter up drove a home 
run off the first pitch.In the aftermath of the game,  the young pitcher 
discovered a famous pennant winning pitcher for a major league big city team 
was in the stands and he asked advice... "How would you have pitched that 
last one?"  he asked.Without hesitation, the famous veteran said "Under 
an assumed name".

That planner should probably have done the same.

:)



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From: "Robert West" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:15 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

> I'm an idiot.
 




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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
I would sure appreciate the Tessco SKU/name/model/etc something to reference
to to see what it looks like and try them out.

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Jayson Baker wrote:

> ROFL!!  No, I just carry a large 16oz bottle of Germ-X (the one with the
> pump) in my front pocket.
> Makes it easy to squirt.  In fact, one in each pocket.  Right hand, left
> hand.  ROFLMAO
>
> Anyway... a guy that did our climbing 10 years ago wore them while climbing
> 80' during a snowstorm and wind.
> His hands never got cold.  Then I saw that Tessco sold them, so I figured
> maybe it was a neat trick.
> Tried it, and sure enough.  Keeps the moisture in, but doesn't let the wind
> hit your fingers I guess.
>
> Next time I go into the truck I'll see who makes those gloves.  They don't
> sell this model at Home Depot.
> That same manufacturer sells gloves at home depot, but are labeled
> "Handyman" and don't have the little sticky pads.
> Not really sticky either, but they grip very well.
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Robert West  >wrote:
>
> > And then we find out later that Jayson actually wears latex gloves 24
> hours
> > a day and rationalizes it to himself and everyone around him with tips
> and
> > stories such as this one.
> >
> > Jayson, it's a phobia.  The germs will always be with us and they aren't
> > here to hurt you.  Step out of your protective cocoon of lies and join us
> > in
> > the germs.  It's okay
> >
> >
> >
> > But seriously, sounds like the latex has merit.  Sticky palms on the
> > gloves?
> > I'll look for those next time I'm spending the traditional one hundred
> > bucks
> > per visit at the Home Depot.
> >
> > Bob-
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:46 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Wear latex gloves.  Keeps the wind off your fingers and actually makes a
> > BIG
> > difference.
> > When I climb, I wear latex and then some brand they sell at Home Depot as
> > "Handyman" gloves with velcro, but I got them from Tessco and they're
> > "sticky" on the palms.  They were like $40.
> > When I take the other gloves off to do work I leave the latex on.  Even
> > that
> > little separation from the metal makes a big difference too.
> >
> > I know it sounds dumb.  But try it.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Robert West
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm an idiot.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
> >  Drive
> > > to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> > all
> > > good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
> >  Home.
> > > All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> > > because I'm an idiot.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert West
> > >
> > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> > >
> > > 740-335-7020
> > >
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Jayson Baker
ROFL!!  No, I just carry a large 16oz bottle of Germ-X (the one with the
pump) in my front pocket.
Makes it easy to squirt.  In fact, one in each pocket.  Right hand, left
hand.  ROFLMAO

Anyway... a guy that did our climbing 10 years ago wore them while climbing
80' during a snowstorm and wind.
His hands never got cold.  Then I saw that Tessco sold them, so I figured
maybe it was a neat trick.
Tried it, and sure enough.  Keeps the moisture in, but doesn't let the wind
hit your fingers I guess.

Next time I go into the truck I'll see who makes those gloves.  They don't
sell this model at Home Depot.
That same manufacturer sells gloves at home depot, but are labeled
"Handyman" and don't have the little sticky pads.
Not really sticky either, but they grip very well.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Robert West wrote:

> And then we find out later that Jayson actually wears latex gloves 24 hours
> a day and rationalizes it to himself and everyone around him with tips and
> stories such as this one.
>
> Jayson, it's a phobia.  The germs will always be with us and they aren't
> here to hurt you.  Step out of your protective cocoon of lies and join us
> in
> the germs.  It's okay
>
>
>
> But seriously, sounds like the latex has merit.  Sticky palms on the
> gloves?
> I'll look for those next time I'm spending the traditional one hundred
> bucks
> per visit at the Home Depot.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:46 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> Wear latex gloves.  Keeps the wind off your fingers and actually makes a
> BIG
> difference.
> When I climb, I wear latex and then some brand they sell at Home Depot as
> "Handyman" gloves with velcro, but I got them from Tessco and they're
> "sticky" on the palms.  They were like $40.
> When I take the other gloves off to do work I leave the latex on.  Even
> that
> little separation from the metal makes a big difference too.
>
> I know it sounds dumb.  But try it.
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Robert West
> wrote:
>
> > I'm an idiot.
> >
> >
> >
> > Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
>  Drive
> > to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> all
> > good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
>  Home.
> > All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> Certainly,
> > because I'm an idiot.
> >
> >
> >
> >  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert West
> >
> > Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >
> > 740-335-7020
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
I thought latex was good for sweaty palms (wet..cold...etc).  Guess
that's good on at least two levels.

On 12/17/09, Jayson Baker  wrote:
> Wear latex gloves.  Keeps the wind off your fingers and actually makes a BIG
> difference.
> When I climb, I wear latex and then some brand they sell at Home Depot as
> "Handyman" gloves with velcro, but I got them from Tessco and they're
> "sticky" on the palms.  They were like $40.
> When I take the other gloves off to do work I leave the latex on.  Even that
> little separation from the metal makes a big difference too.
>
> I know it sounds dumb.  But try it.
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Robert West
> wrote:
>
>> I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
>> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
>> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
>> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
>> Certainly,
>> because I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>> 740-335-7020
>>
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Robert West
And then we find out later that Jayson actually wears latex gloves 24 hours
a day and rationalizes it to himself and everyone around him with tips and
stories such as this one.

Jayson, it's a phobia.  The germs will always be with us and they aren't
here to hurt you.  Step out of your protective cocoon of lies and join us in
the germs.  It's okay



But seriously, sounds like the latex has merit.  Sticky palms on the gloves?
I'll look for those next time I'm spending the traditional one hundred bucks
per visit at the Home Depot.  

Bob-


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Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

Wear latex gloves.  Keeps the wind off your fingers and actually makes a BIG
difference.
When I climb, I wear latex and then some brand they sell at Home Depot as
"Handyman" gloves with velcro, but I got them from Tessco and they're
"sticky" on the palms.  They were like $40.
When I take the other gloves off to do work I leave the latex on.  Even that
little separation from the metal makes a big difference too.

I know it sounds dumb.  But try it.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Robert West
wrote:

> I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
Certainly,
> because I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>
>
>
> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>
>
>
> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Jayson Baker
Wear latex gloves.  Keeps the wind off your fingers and actually makes a BIG
difference.
When I climb, I wear latex and then some brand they sell at Home Depot as
"Handyman" gloves with velcro, but I got them from Tessco and they're
"sticky" on the palms.  They were like $40.
When I take the other gloves off to do work I leave the latex on.  Even that
little separation from the metal makes a big difference too.

I know it sounds dumb.  But try it.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Robert West wrote:

> I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?  Certainly,
> because I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>
>
>
> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>
>
>
> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Robert West
Yup.  I gave up sub-contract work for third parties.  In the long run it
never paid for all the BS and hassle AND trying to get paid!  They always
wanted something in a hurry but when it came to money, they had all the time
in the world.



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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:31 PM
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This reminds me of a 400' tower I climbed two winters ago. At that point, I
thought I might climb for others and make a little extra cash. So, I took an
offer and went to the site. We had to wait a long time for the radio station
to power down which made for a very late start. When they were ready, I
suited up and walked over to the tower. The dumb cell company ran the cables
up all three of the OUTSIDE faces! I almost called it off then but I hate to
quit so up I went. I felt like Jack and the beanstalk climbing that sucker.
To make matters worse, about halfway up the sun went down, the temperature
dropped to single digits, and a snowstorm hit. I made it to the top and
swung out to a huge enclosure. The plan was to disconnect power one at a
time (yes, they had the POE units up there) until the bad radio went
offline. Once we found the bad radio, I was to trace its wire and swap it
out. So, while dealing with the ground chief, I began pulling power. On the
2nd POE they said "thats it". So, I traced the wire and swapped out the
radio, then headed down. Halfway down I heard the ground cheif say "uh oh!
That wasnt it after all! You better go back and try again". I turned off my
two-way and proceeded down. The ground cheif was actually on the ground
crying like a baby, swearing, and saying I wasnt getting paid. I told him to
keep the money along with his poor planning, and get another dog. At that
point, I decided I was only climbing for myself. I like working for myself
much better :)

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Then you should be thankful you're that much ahead :)
>
> I think it was two years ago when I came down and hands warmed up
> (they were blue as usual) I was in so much pain I was tearing felt
> like throwing up.   Hated that.
>
> On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
> holding
> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> > decent - they freeze at 50!
> >
> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >> I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
>  Drive
> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> all
> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
>  Home.
> >> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> >> because I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert West
> >>
> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >>
> >> 740-335-7020
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread RickG
This reminds me of a 400' tower I climbed two winters ago. At that point, I
thought I might climb for others and make a little extra cash. So, I took an
offer and went to the site. We had to wait a long time for the radio station
to power down which made for a very late start. When they were ready, I
suited up and walked over to the tower. The dumb cell company ran the cables
up all three of the OUTSIDE faces! I almost called it off then but I hate to
quit so up I went. I felt like Jack and the beanstalk climbing that sucker.
To make matters worse, about halfway up the sun went down, the temperature
dropped to single digits, and a snowstorm hit. I made it to the top and
swung out to a huge enclosure. The plan was to disconnect power one at a
time (yes, they had the POE units up there) until the bad radio went
offline. Once we found the bad radio, I was to trace its wire and swap it
out. So, while dealing with the ground chief, I began pulling power. On the
2nd POE they said "thats it". So, I traced the wire and swapped out the
radio, then headed down. Halfway down I heard the ground cheif say "uh oh!
That wasnt it after all! You better go back and try again". I turned off my
two-way and proceeded down. The ground cheif was actually on the ground
crying like a baby, swearing, and saying I wasnt getting paid. I told him to
keep the money along with his poor planning, and get another dog. At that
point, I decided I was only climbing for myself. I like working for myself
much better :)

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Then you should be thankful you're that much ahead :)
>
> I think it was two years ago when I came down and hands warmed up
> (they were blue as usual) I was in so much pain I was tearing felt
> like throwing up.   Hated that.
>
> On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> > Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while
> holding
> > onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
> >
> > Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> > decent - they freeze at 50!
> >
> > On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >> I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.
>  Drive
> >> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat,
> all
> >> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?
>  Home.
> >> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> > Certainly,
> >> because I'm an idiot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert West
> >>
> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
> >>
> >> 740-335-7020
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Then you should be thankful you're that much ahead :)

I think it was two years ago when I came down and hands warmed up
(they were blue as usual) I was in so much pain I was tearing felt
like throwing up.   Hated that.

On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while holding
> onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot
>
> Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
> decent - they freeze at 50!
>
> On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
>> I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
>> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
>> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
>> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
> Certainly,
>> because I'm an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>> 740-335-7020
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Robert West
Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh  28 degrees while holding
onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
decent - they freeze at 50!

On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?
Certainly,
> because I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>
>
>
> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>
>
>
> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Really glad you're OK!  I have never been able to keep my fingers
decent - they freeze at 50!

On 12/16/09, Robert West  wrote:
> I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
> Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
> to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
> good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
> All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?  Certainly,
> because I'm an idiot.
>
>
>
>  I can now almost feel my fingers.
>
>
>
> Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.
>
>
>
> Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
>
>
>
>
>
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[WISPA] I'm an idiot

2009-12-16 Thread Robert West
I'm an idiot.

 

Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon.  300 foot tower.  Drive
to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
good.  No gloves.  Figures.  Where are the gloves?  The NEW gloves?  Home.
All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves.  Did I go up?  Certainly,
because I'm an idiot. 

 

 I can now almost feel my fingers.  

 

Was a balmy 28 degrees out with winds to 17 mph.  

 

Just had to share my utter stupidity.  Never again.

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 




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