Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
A little more info... a generally accepted purchase price for a business is 3x the annual Net Profit. Again, this is just a starting point because something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay... but for a general business practice, that's usually the starting point. Travis Microserv

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
owing if you buy it? Or grow faster? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: [WISPA] pricing He

RE: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Brad Belton
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] pricing Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity to purch

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Travis: The FASB or Financial Accounting Standards Board provides FASB Standards for accountancy and valuations. For example, FASB established accoutancy valuation standards for wireless equipment manufacturers. So if serious you can officialy submit a technical inquiry here: http://www.fasb.org

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
George/Travis/All: What's interesting is that my local WISP said the local carrier (read: now its ATT) would start becoming interested when they were at 10,000 subscribers. My local WISP walks door to door to get subscribers or "by word of mouth" and in direct competition with local cable and/or wi

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread John Scrivner
This varies wildly. I have seen everything from deals where the new WISP just takes over the debt and I have heard of 4 times yearly gross revenues. The bigger the WISP the more they are worth as a multiple of earnings in most cases. I would say that 1X yearly revenues, as you describe, would b

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread George Rogato
I'm pretty sure TJ is Travis and that was just another discussion we have had countless times about how much we are worth. I say we are worth at least what it would cost for another provider to come in and get up to where we are. IN A SHORT TIME SPAN. That price can vary, but it's probably muc

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
hnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: [WISPA] pricing Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Matt Liotta
Without knowing anything else, 12x monthly is a good deal for the buyer. -Matt Travis Johnson wrote: Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity to purchase a neighboring WISP.

Re: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Travis,Last year, I discussed this very topic with my regional WISP in Northern California and they said they heard a raw price is needed on a "per subscriber" basis. Here is a 2004 aricle from IP Planet which probably needs an update: The Value of a WiSP: http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireles

RE: [WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Mac Dearman
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] pricing Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity to purchase a neighboring WISP. Travis Micr

[WISPA] pricing

2007-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Hey, Anyone seen current pricing for purchase of a WISP? The last I saw it was around 12x the monthly... has that changed at all lately? I have the opportunity to purchase a neighboring WISP. Travis Microserv Wo

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
band - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing Or you work on a call-back tech support basis. ;) We changed to that model almost 8 years ag

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That's exactly what we're working on. I didn't know I was so smart! hehehehe marlon - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
t on my end. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing This is interesting, and something I've been givi

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Travis Johnson
employees. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing Someone talked about

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
rNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing Someone talked about this at ISPCON in Santa Clara. Their phone system

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Felix A. Lopez
lue of their high ARPU service, > because there > > really was no way for them to differenciate it. > They actually started > > a completely different company to go after the low > end business, to > > protect the value of thier name for the high ARPU > business company. > > >

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Sam Tetherow
- From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing You could create 2 brands like Toyota and Lexus. One is a decent car but the other is a luxury. The difference between a Camary and a Le

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pricing You could create 2 brands like Toyota and Lexus. One is a decent car but the other is a luxury. The difference between a Camary and a Le

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Peter R.
You could create 2 brands like Toyota and Lexus. One is a decent car but the other is a luxury. The difference between a Camary and a Lexus 200 was about $5000. Same basic car. Let's look at Marriott. These are its brands: Marriott Hotels & Resorts JW Marriott Hotels & Resorts Renaissance Hotel

Re: [WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Nash
Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [WISPA] Pricing Seth Godin has a good

[WISPA] Pricing

2007-06-12 Thread Peter R.
Seth Godin has a good post on the theory of pricing: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2007/06/three_humps_and.html -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wire