Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
ject: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? Connected Nation employs actual wireless engineers, most of whom have 25+ years of experience in EBS, BRS, WCS, AWS, LMDS, PCS and unlicensed wireless bands. Most of us have also been WISPs ourselves and, to that end, we understand

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-05 Thread Drew Lentz
ax > Skype: Radiowebst > www.wirelessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Drew Lentz > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:06 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providi

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Brian Webster
eral List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? I disagree with this: Most of these mapping contractors are people who do not have any broadband experience. Depending on the group that gets assigned the funding for the mapping projects (and that is done per state), s

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Josh Luthman
:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *Spann, Chip > *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:18 PM > *To:* wireless@wispa.org > *Subject:* [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? > > ** ** > > Connected Nation employs

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Brian Webster
Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Spann, Chip Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:18 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? Connected Nation employs actual wireless engineers, most of wh

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Scott Reed
It is good that you talk with the provider before doing drive-arounds as in my area a drive around would pretty tell you there is no service since our cpe average antenna is about 30 feet AGL. On 8/4/2011 2:18 PM, Spann, Chip wrote: Connected Nation employs actual wireless engineers, most of

[WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Spann, Chip
Connected Nation employs actual wireless engineers, most of whom have 25+ years of experience in EBS, BRS, WCS, AWS, LMDS, PCS and unlicensed wireless bands. Most of us have also been WISPs ourselves and, to that end, we understand your business quite well. Radio Mobile is one of the propagati

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Drew Lentz
I disagree with this: Most of these mapping contractors are people who do not have any broadband experience. Depending on the group that gets assigned the funding for the mapping projects (and that is done per state), some of these guys are highly proficient in doing the data collection. They h

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Brian Webster
roadband-Mapping.com From: Greg Ihnen [mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:34 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? To me that hardly seems like a "study" if all they

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-04 Thread Greg Ihnen
gt; > From: Greg Ihnen [mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:18 PM > To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com > Cc: 'WISPA General List' > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? > > > > Bria

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Cameron Crum
essmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > ** ** > > *From:* Greg Ihnen [mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:18 PM > *To:* bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com > *Cc:* 'WISPA General List' > > *Subject:* Re

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Brian Webster
: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? Brian, That's interesting. So they're actually making field measurements? I suspect the state's RF staff is probably limited and stretched thin in at

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Greg Ihnen
; > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > From: Greg Ihnen [mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:21 PM > To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providi

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Brian Webster
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:21 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping? They're conducting RF propagation studies? Is that not already cut and dried? How will their findings be presented? Will

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Greg Ihnen
They're conducting RF propagation studies? Is that not already cut and dried? How will their findings be presented? Will they be published? Greg On Aug 3, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Brian Webster wrote: > Brett, > I am the mapping data coordinator for the Illinois portion of the > National Map. T

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Drew Lentz
I suppose I can see the point from your end, but looking at a larger picture of it, having that information can only help out in the long run, I believe. Just as SpectrumBridge is building the opt-in database for unlicensed carriers, I think this is where it is all headed. With the 3650 licenses

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Brian Webster
Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broa

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Reed
They don't need the how we do it part. Model numbers of equipment, etc., just are not necessary for what they are trying to accomplish. Neither are frequency bands, etc. What they need is coverage data, which I agree is important to provide, but no one else needs to know how I provide it. O

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Bret Clark
On 08/03/2011 10:51 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > But they could go ahead with > something like this (letter of the law notwtihstanding, since law no > loger counts for much here) and thus having your maps submitted by > the deadline may prevent you from being run out of town by a subsidy whore. > W

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/3/2011 09:54 AM, Bret Clark wrote: >So, like many of you, we're being asked to provide data to NTIA for >broadband mapping, but as a private company I'm rather bothered by the >confidential information they are asking for. They want to know such >things as our spectrum use, antenna locations,

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Drew Lentz
I still don't understand why someone *wouldn't* be open to this. If the NTIA is asking for your info, and granted none of it is that confidential (especially if you use unlicensed), it is so they know where access is and isn't. When the maps are drawn and your info wasn't supplied, there will be

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Scott Reed
I have no problem providing them with my coverage maps, but when I gave some of the requested data to Indiana, their maps were not so accurate. At least Indiana allows us to provide maps rather than all the data. On 8/3/2011 9:54 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > So, like many of you, we're being asked t

Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Talk to Brian Webster. He is a subcontractor for the Illinois mapping effort. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/3/2011 8:54 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > So, like many of you, we're being asked to provide data to NTIA for > broadband mapping, but as a priv

[WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?

2011-08-03 Thread Bret Clark
So, like many of you, we're being asked to provide data to NTIA for broadband mapping, but as a private company I'm rather bothered by the confidential information they are asking for. They want to know such things as our spectrum use, antenna locations, antenna types, etc. so they can model ou