Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-19 Thread John Thomas
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, Again, you need to be careful... the charging unit in the smaller UPS systems (700, 1000, 1400) is not designed to run for 3-4 days to charge up 10 batteries that were drained from an outage. You will burn up the UPS. I would not recommend more

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-16 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, There are MANY, MANY considerations here... as we have done the same thing at many tower sites: First, make sure you fuse the cable coming out of the UPS to the battery bank. We use 60A and 100A fuses depending on if we use two or four

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? This seems like a good opportunity to lob in a sales pitch of sorts. But I will disguise it as an engineering discussion to appease the tech crowd. I will preface my comments by saying I do not know the original application for which this question was posed. Most

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
, November 13, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, Again, you need to be careful... the charging unit in the smaller UPS systems (700, 1000, 1400) is not designed to run for 3-4 days to charge up 10 batteries that were drained from an outage. You will burn up the UPS

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-14 Thread Eric Albert
, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? If the system is 24 vDC and I need 24 vDC for my equipment, could I tap off

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
, November 12, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Kennedy
, November 12, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread George Rogato
Speak of the devil. Tessco says the FCC is going to require 8 hours of back up: http://www.tessco.com/yts/industry/products/infra/infrastructure/power_supplies/pdf/agl_reprint.pdf -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread George Rogato
-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime. This one pop has a trango, a wrap a metro

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
This is good. I want backup at all my sites but there does not seem to be any products I like. Maybe now people will make them. Brian George Rogato wrote: Speak of the devil. Tessco says the FCC is going to require 8 hours of back up:

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Graham McIntire
Read close, it only applies to ILECs, CLECs, and CMRS (commercial mobile radio service) providers. Still not a bad idea for WISPs, but not required if you're not a CLEC. Graham On Nov 13, 2007 9:19 AM, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speak of the devil. Tessco says the FCC is going to

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Nash
541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Thanks for the advice. I'm going to try one. I'm wondering how many batteries I can gang

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Travis Johnson
, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Thanks for the advi

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Nash
-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Mike Hammett wrote: The 17 does environmental monitoring as well. Um

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Travis Johnson
rk Nash" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://ww

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
oh, sorry. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
- From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Mike Hammett wrote: The 17 does environmental monitoring as well. Um, no it doesn't. AP9606 - Basic Web/SNMP Management card

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hooked up properly, you should be able to put in as many as you want/have space for. Can anyone share how

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread George Rogato
UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, Again, you need to be careful... the charging unit in the smaller UPS systems (700, 1000, 1400) is not designed to run for 3-4 days to charge up 10 batteries that were drained from an outage. You will burn

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Note: the 9606 is 10mbps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Yes, you can. We have

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Eric Albert
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Note: the 9606 is 10mbps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Gino Villarini
To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? This seems like a good opportunity to lob in a sales pitch of sorts. But I will disguise it as an engineering discussion to appease the tech crowd. I will preface my comments by saying I do not know the original application for which

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Eric Albert
55VDC at 1.0A Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Eric, Whats the DC

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Gino Villarini
] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Albert Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? 55VDC at 1.0A Eric

[WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread George Rogato
I need to buy a few ups's for some remote pops. I was looking at APC and the place I buy stuff from had these: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=52353C=216S=-1 Is this worth buying, or should I go with APC at twice the price?

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Ryan Langseth
A couple of the differeneces I see: the APC has a 2 year warranty vs 90 days on the generic one, also it looks like you can add a ethernet module to the APC for remote monitoring. also the Wattage output is 600W higher on the APC Not sure if that is worth twice the price though. Ryan On Mon,

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? A couple of the differeneces I see: the APC has a 2 year warranty vs 90 days on the generic one, also it looks like you can add a ethernet module to the APC for remote monitoring. also the Wattage output

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? I need to buy a few ups's for some remote

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread George Rogato
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? I need to buy a few ups's for some remote pops. I was looking at APC and the place I buy stuff from had these: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=52353C=216S=-1

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread John Valenti
Mark, How much effort is involved in changing it over to the RV batteries? You need to use two of them because that is what the SU700 is setup for, right? It seems to do OK charging these batteries that are considerably larger than it was designed for? Is the SU700NET the cheapest APC that

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, There are MANY, MANY considerations here... as we have done the same thing at many tower sites: First, make sure you fuse the cable coming out of the UPS to the battery bank. We use 60A and 100A fuses depending on if we use two or four batteries. Second, I HIGHLY recommend sealed AGM

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime. This one pop has a trango, a wrap a metro and a cheap switch. Usually when it looses power it could be 24 hours

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Mark, How much effort is involved

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime. This one pop has a trango, a wrap a metro and a cheap switch. Usually when it looses power it could be 24 hours or more. With your set up, how much do you pay including the 2 rv batteries and how

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? George, don't forget the power control and auto ping... http://digital-loggers.com/EPCR2.html Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? UPS - $45 on ebay (buy one without batteries) SNMP card - $125 on ebay 2 batteries 2 outdoor battery compartments: $150-$175 (more, depending on battery quality). I get mine at Bimart. misc connectors wire $20 I had one

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
12, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? UPS - $45 on ebay (buy one without batteries) SNMP card - $125 on ebay 2 batteries 2 outdoor battery compartments

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? And now you just created a bidding war on ebay for them... :( Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? And now you just created a bidding war on ebay for them... :( Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: $125

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
, November 12, 2007 9:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Just bought 5 of them on ebay for $50 each, including shipping. ;) Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: I have not told you my source :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless