Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-19 Thread John Thomas
10:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, Again, you need to be careful... the charging unit in the smaller UPS systems (700, 1000, 1400) is not designed to run for 3-4 days to charge up 10 batteries that were drained from an outage. You will burn up the UPS. I would not recom

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-16 Thread Mike Hammett
November 12, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, There are MANY, MANY considerations here... as we have done the same thing at many tower sites: First, make sure you fuse the cable coming out of the UPS to the battery bank. We use 60A and 100A fuses depending on if we

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-14 Thread Eric Albert
, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? If the system is 24 vDC and I need 24 vDC for my equipment, could I tap off

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
, November 13, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, Again, you need to be careful... the charging unit in the smaller UPS systems (700, 1000, 1400) is not designed to run for 3-4 days to charge up 10 batteries that were drained from an outage. You will burn up the UPS

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Note: the 9606 is 10mbps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Gino Villarini
ECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Albert Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? 55VDC at 1.0A

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Eric Albert
55VDC at 1.0A Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Eric, Whats the DC

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Gino Villarini
: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? This seems like a good opportunity to lob in a sales pitch of sorts. But I will disguise it as an engineering discussion to appease the tech crowd. I will preface my comments by saying I do not know the original application for which

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Eric Albert
ember 13, 2007 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Note: the 9606 is 10mbps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 13

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Note: the 9606 is 10mbps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Yes, you can. We

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
eral List Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hi, Again, you need to be careful... the charging unit in the smaller UPS systems (700, 1000, 1400) is not designed to run for 3-4 days to charge up 10 batteries that were drained from an outage. You

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread George Rogato
it. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:32 AM Subject

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
ntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Hooked up properly, you should be able to put in as many as you wan

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
sage - From: "Adam Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Mike Hammett wrote: > The 17 does environmental monitoring as well. Um, no it doesn't. AP9606

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
oh, sorry. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Adam Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Mi

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Travis Johnson
Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://w

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Nash
t 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Adam Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? > Mike Hammett wrote: > > The 17 does environ

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Travis Johnson
nction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Thanks f

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Nash
et 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? > Thanks for the advice. I'm going to try one. > &g

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Graham McIntire
Read close, it only applies to ILECs, CLECs, and CMRS (commercial mobile radio service) providers. Still not a bad idea for WISPs, but not required if you're not a CLEC. Graham On Nov 13, 2007 9:19 AM, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speak of the devil. > > Tessco says the FCC is goin

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
This is good. I want backup at all my sites but there does not seem to be any products I like. Maybe now people will make them. Brian George Rogato wrote: Speak of the devil. Tessco says the FCC is going to require 8 hours of back up: http://www.tessco.com/yts/industry/products/infra/inf

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread George Rogato
ol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime.

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread George Rogato
Speak of the devil. Tessco says the FCC is going to require 8 hours of back up: http://www.tessco.com/yts/industry/products/infra/infrastructure/power_supplies/pdf/agl_reprint.pdf -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ --

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Kennedy
List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
The 17 does environmental monitoring as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
, November 12, 2007 9:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Just bought 5 of them on ebay for $50 each, including shipping. ;) Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: > I have not told you my source :-) > > > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PRO

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? And now you just created a bidding war on ebay for them... :( Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: $125 for

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? And now you just created a bidding war on ebay for them... :( Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
t: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA G

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? UPS - $45 on ebay (buy one without batteries) SNMP card - $125 on ebay 2 batteries & 2 outdoor battery compartm

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
ay, November 12, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? UPS - $45 on ebay (buy one without batteries) SNMP card - $125 on ebay 2 batteries & 2 outdoor battery compartments: $150-$175 (more, depending on battery quality). I get mine at Bimart. misc connectors & wire $20 I

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
ssage - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? George, don't forget the power control and auto ping... http://digital-loggers.com/EPCR2.html Ch

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime. This one pop has a trango, a wrap a metro and a cheap switch. Usually when it looses power it could be 24 hours or more. With your set up, how much do you pay inc

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
dOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "John Valenti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
D] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime. This one pop has a trango, a wrap a metro and a cheap switch. Usually when it looses power it could be 2

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, There are MANY, MANY considerations here... as we have done the same thing at many tower sites: First, make sure you fuse the cable coming out of the UPS to the battery bank. We use 60A and 100A fuses depending on if we use two or four batteries. Second, I HIGHLY recommend sealed AGM t

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread John Valenti
Mark, How much effort is involved in changing it over to the RV batteries? You need to use two of them because that is what the SU700 is setup for, right? It seems to do OK charging these batteries that are considerably larger than it was designed for? Is the SU700NET the cheapest APC that a

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread George Rogato
"George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? I need to buy a few ups's for some remote pops. I was looking at APC and the place I buy stuff from had these: http://www.pacific

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
et 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? >

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use? A couple of the differeneces I see: the APC has a 2 year warranty vs 90 days on the generic one, also it looks like you can add a ethernet module to the APC for remote monitoring. also the Wattage output

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Ryan Langseth
A couple of the differeneces I see: the APC has a 2 year warranty vs 90 days on the generic one, also it looks like you can add a ethernet module to the APC for remote monitoring. also the Wattage output is 600W higher on the APC Not sure if that is worth twice the price though. Ryan On Mon, 2

[WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread George Rogato
I need to buy a few ups's for some remote pops. I was looking at APC and the place I buy stuff from had these: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=52353&C=216&S=-1 Is this worth buying, or should I go with APC at twice the price? http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?ba