Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Radwin 2000c could easily do that for $3K Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN/RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:36 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
At 8/2/2011 11:35 AM, Adam Greene wrote: Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... The first thing that comes to mind is another question: Where is the link, and what reliability do you need? At that frequency you're subject to rain fade, so it depends on your rain zone. It sounds like a stretch, but if it's not mission-critical, or has a diverse path, then it might be adequate. Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.comfgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Adam, a SAF CFIP 106 could fit your needs too Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:36 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
24GHz @ 3 miles is not going to be stable unless is never rains What about 5.4GHz? Moto PTP500 Lite will do 52Mbps now, and 105Mbps later and is DFS2 compliant :-) - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:36 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Ohh yeah 3 miles for 24 ghz is on the edge I didn't catch that detail. Go Radwin2000 certified for 5.4 ghz or a an80 in 3.65, Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? 24GHz @ 3 miles is not going to be stable unless is never rains What about 5.4GHz? Moto PTP500 Lite will do 52Mbps now, and 105Mbps later and is DFS2 compliant :-) - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:36 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Yeah, we demoed a Radwin unit few years ago and got good results. But we need something outside the 2GHz - 5GHz spectrum. We have a 5.4GHz - 5.8GHz Mikrotik link there right now that is being beaten to death by interference. On 8/2/2011 11:43 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Radwin 2000c could easily do that for $3K Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Adam Greene *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:36 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Both Radwin and Motorola PTP500 would work well under high interference, but if you want to go to a whole diff band, I would suggest against a 3 mile 24 ghz link, go with a Radwin 2000 in 3.65 Ghz . Its FCC certified for up to 20 mhz, providing a solid 100 mbps aggregate data rate for well under $7k Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Yeah, we demoed a Radwin unit few years ago and got good results. But we need something outside the 2GHz - 5GHz spectrum. We have a 5.4GHz - 5.8GHz Mikrotik link there right now that is being beaten to death by interference. On 8/2/2011 11:43 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Radwin 2000c could easily do that for $3K Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN/RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:36 AM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at the moment ... Thanks, Adam On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
At 8/2/2011 01:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_D26588DB857E2948835D6C7A27C9879E15DBBD68AEROMAIL1aerone_ Both Radwin and Motorola PTP500 would work well under high interference, but if you want to go to a whole diff band, I would suggest against a 3 mile 24 ghz link, go with a Radwin 2000 in 3.65 Ghz . Its FCC certified for up to 20 mhz, providing a solid 100 mbps aggregate data rate for well under $7k If Adam's where I think he is, he is in the exclusion zone of two or three of those pesky earth stations. 3.65 is unavailable in much of the country, unless he can wangle the waiver. A lot of people use 18-23 GHz links of that distance. The 24 GHz unlicensed power limit may be a bit low though. A licensed Ka-band radio should be fine for 3 miles, unless it is non-diversity mission critical. Someone I work with manages a public safety microwave network around here. His 18 GHz and 5 GHz links are both impacted by weather, but not the same weather, so the network overall stays up even as links fade. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/2/2011 1:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/2/2011 01:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_D26588DB857E2948835D6C7A27C9879E15DBBD68AEROMAIL1aerone_ Both Radwin and Motorola PTP500 would work well under high interference, but if you want to go to a whole diff band, I would suggest against a 3 mile 24 ghz link, go with a Radwin 2000 in 3.65 Ghz . Its FCC certified for up to 20 mhz, providing a solid 100 mbps aggregate data rate for well under $7k If Adam's where I think he is, he is in the exclusion zone of two or three of those pesky earth stations. 3.65 is unavailable in much of the country, unless he can wangle the waiver. A lot of people use 18-23 GHz links of that distance. The 24 GHz unlicensed power limit may be a bit low though. A licensed Ka-band radio should be fine for 3 miles, unless it is non-diversity mission critical. Someone I work with manages a public safety microwave network around here. His 18 GHz and 5 GHz links are both impacted by weather, but not the same weather, so the network overall stays up even as links fade. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
I think you just jinxed that link! On 8/2/2011 2:32 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/2/2011 1:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/2/2011 01:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_D26588DB857E2948835D6C7A27C9879E15DBBD68AEROMAIL1aerone_ Both Radwin and Motorola PTP500 would work well under high interference, but if you want to go to a whole diff band, I would suggest against a 3 mile 24 ghz link, go with a Radwin 2000 in 3.65 Ghz . Its FCC certified for up to 20 mhz, providing a solid 100 mbps aggregate data rate for well under $7k If Adam's where I think he is, he is in the exclusion zone of two or three of those pesky earth stations. 3.65 is unavailable in much of the country, unless he can wangle the waiver. A lot of people use 18-23 GHz links of that distance. The 24 GHz unlicensed power limit may be a bit low though. A licensed Ka-band radio should be fine for 3 miles, unless it is non-diversity mission critical. Someone I work with manages a public safety microwave network around here. His 18 GHz and 5 GHz links are both impacted by weather, but not the same weather, so the network overall stays up even as links fade. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby| InfoWest, Inc | www.infowest.com Vice President | 435-674-0165 x 2010 | facebook.com/infowest WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
On 2 August 2011 16:32, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years. Rain in the tropics and rain in the midwest are two *very* different things. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
24ghz is unlicensed. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 14:02:52 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Me Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? 24ghz is unlicensed. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 14:02:52 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not ** ** Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Me *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 2:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** 24ghz is unlicensed. *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* -Original message- *From: *Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com* To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org* Sent: *Thu, Jul 28, 2011 14:02:52 GMT+00:00* Subject: *Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Why not? It has it places, if you need a short high capacity 1 mile link, why not go 24 ghz? Save yourself from FCC fees and you can move the link to anywhere Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Me Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? 24ghz is unlicensed. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.commailto:cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 14:02:52 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not ** ** -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting ** ** http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
$8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops… whats your price range for “pricey” ** ** Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. ** ** Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? ** ** Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. ** ** Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops… whats your price range for “pricey” Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
I don't think any unlicensed stuff you can put together will outperform a Dragonwave or SAF 24 ghz UL gear, this gear is same as licensed only works on UL bands...wire speed, latecy under 1ms Full duplex Same performance as a 11,18 or 23 ghz unit Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
Depends though, a building may have a ton of unlic 2.4/5ghz equipment, and nothing in the 24GHz space. If you are shooting a link a half mile to a mile, it works well for that. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? ** ** Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. ** ** Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops… whats your price range for “pricey” Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto: g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto: g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto: g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.comhttp://ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing. On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: What about below$6k? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not that much if I have to finance the link. Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yes short hops... whats your price range for pricey Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.commailto: fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are pretty limited. Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, rather fun... But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values are from memory, not precise.) Cameron On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other is not -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.comhttp://ionary.com http://ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
But a Ubiuiti radio could do that for 500. A ptp230 or 250 could get close. Mikrotik could do that for probably 500. Double up on hardware and you're still way under budget. On Jul 28, 2011 1:25 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for almost two years on a three mile link. It has been an outstanding piece of equipment in the time that we have had it. A few months ago, after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the cross-polarization set up correctly, so we fixed it and saw our throughput go from 60meg to 100meg full duplex along with another 15db of fade margin. We have had some occasional rain fade, but no outages lasted more than five minutes. I do wish that there was an option for a bigger dish, as being able to go 6-8 miles would be very handy. The link that we have it on used to be fed by a 100meg fiber connection that cost $500/month. We spent $8000 on the Ligo radio, so it paid for itself in 16 months. I think that is pretty useful! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 7/27/2011 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process
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I think Matt's advantage is the licensed freq. There is something to be said for putting it up and forgetting it. With unlicensed BH you are always going to be fighting the interference monster. I guess it depends on your budget and time. Cameron On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a Ubiuiti radio could do that for 500. A ptp230 or 250 could get close. Mikrotik could do that for probably 500. Double up on hardware and you're still way under budget. On Jul 28, 2011 1:25 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for almost two years on a three mile link. It has been an outstanding piece of equipment in the time that we have had it. A few months ago, after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the cross-polarization set up correctly, so we fixed it and saw our throughput go from 60meg to 100meg full duplex along with another 15db of fade margin. We have had some occasional rain fade, but no outages lasted more than five minutes. I do wish that there was an option for a bigger dish, as being able to go 6-8 miles would be very handy. The link that we have it on used to be fed by a 100meg fiber connection that cost $500/month. We spent $8000 on the Ligo radio, so it paid for itself in 16 months. I think that is pretty useful! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 7/27/2011 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming
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What antena size you have? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.commailto:li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for almost two years on a three mile link. It has been an outstanding piece of equipment in the time that we have had it.A few months ago, after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the cross-polarization set up correctly, so we fixed it and saw our throughput go from 60meg to 100meg full duplex along with another 15db of fade margin.We have had some occasional rain fade, but no outages lasted more than five minutes. I do wish that there was an option for a bigger dish, as being able to go 6-8 miles would be very handy. The link that we have it on used to be fed by a 100meg fiber connection that cost $500/month. We spent $8000 on the Ligo radio, so it paid for itself in 16 months. I think that is pretty useful! Matt Larsen vistabeam.comhttp://vistabeam.com On 7/27/2011 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel mailto:lakel...@gbcx.netlakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That’s weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol… I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.comg...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz
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2' dishes Matt Larsen Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 13:10:27 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our AlvarionMikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with power supplies. About a 4 week lead time. But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio snaps on the back of the antenna. Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold. I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
You can get similar unit from SAF, 350 Mbps FDX Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with power supplies. About a 4 week lead time. But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Char t shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam --- - - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes? No idea what to put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes. On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio snaps on the back of the antenna. Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold. I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
6 miles go 18 or 24 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes? No idea what to put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes. On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio snaps on the back of the antenna. Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold. I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
I can't say no way but I would not be comfortable with that distance. I've never seen a 23 Ghz six foot dish -B- On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes? No idea what to put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes. On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio snaps on the back of the antenna. Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold. I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
Exalt will have one in 6 months but the SAF won't work on 3 non-overlapping channels. How many non-overlapping channels on the 350 Mbps SAF? On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: You can get similar unit from SAF, 350 Mbps FDX Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with power supplies. About a 4 week lead time. But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Char t shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam --- - - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: ** Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That’s weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol… I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? ** ** Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? ** ** Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
SAF center freqs goes from 24170 to 24230, so you have 60 Mhz of Space for the TX channel . Using cross Pol and separation you could fit 3 50 mhz channels. But on the SAF you can adjust channel size from 20 mhz to 56 mhz... so that gives you some wiggle room... a 20 mhz channel would give you 126 Mbps Fdx @ 256 qam Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:31 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for almost two years on a three mile link. It has been an outstanding piece of equipment in the time that we have had it.A few months ago, after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the cross-polarization set up correctly, so we fixed it and saw our throughput go from 60meg to 100meg full duplex along with another 15db of fade margin.We have had some occasional rain fade, but no outages lasted more than five minutes. I do wish that there was an option for a bigger dish, as being able to go 6-8 miles would be very handy. The link that we have it on used to be fed by a 100meg fiber connection that cost $500/month. We spent $8000 on the Ligo radio, so it paid for itself in 16 months. I think that is pretty useful! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 7/27/2011 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
[WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
