Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-21 Thread Peter R.
Or until the FCC continues to allow you to be in business. Tom DeReggi wrote: Yeah I disagree. If I shut down its because I get tired, not because I get run out. There becomes a point, when the only big cost is roof space, and a big company tends to pay more for roof rights. When I'm debt f

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-21 Thread Peter R.
Even at 51% be sure that the contract contains the following: - that you get 51% of the voting and decision making. - How everyone exits. - What are their responsibilities. - What about a stale-mate - How is that handled? You probably have a lawyer with you who specializes in corporate or contra

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-21 Thread Matt Liotta
Rick Smith wrote: actually, I've been told the opposite. Buyers of your company want as close to zero liability as possible. Especially when they will probably come in and replace your gear with theirs. If the two seem to match, you only win bigger... Finance people don't want to replace y

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-21 Thread Carl A jeptha
Yes, we need to be able to charge per bit, because we have alot content providers riding on our pipe selling things to our clients. I have noticed they are less and less talking to the ISP's whose bandwidth it is that they are using. We don't need another war on the list about this either, it

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-21 Thread Carl A jeptha
are really happy campers and don't WANT to switch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... And, who IS

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread wispa
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:49:32 -0500, Rick Smith wrote > Telcos. They're going to get what they want @ the FCC, which is to > put the little guys out of business. It'll just be a matter of time > and money, and we don't have much of either. I'd agree with you, if you take the "first impression"

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
just buy you out instead of marketing to all your customers, who are really happy campers and don't WANT to switch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISP

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Smith
Same direction I'm headed, but the big catch is "debt free" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business ju

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
inal Message - From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... And, who ISN'T building to sell right now ? The ones building to own / ope

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Nash
350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] For those in business just

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Smith
onnie Nunweiler Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... If you broke even but had a partner who did not help very much, then my feeling is you should just stay on the course you have and the profit will happen. I

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Smith
Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... Rick Smith wrote: > actually, I've been told the opposite. Buyers of your company want > as close to zero liability as possible. Espe

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Smith
WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... And, who ISN'T building to sell right now ? The ones > building to own / operate are going to get run out in the next 3 yrs. > I'm curious about why you think this, Rick... -- WI

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread wispa
And, who ISN'T building to sell right now ? The ones > building to own / operate are going to get run out in the next 3 yrs. > I'm curious about why you think this, Rick... Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
A General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... Lonnie, This is not a true statement if your CPE is costing you $150 (which seems a little low after antenna, pigtails, misc. hardware like zip ties, weatherpr

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread George Rogato
Rick Smith wrote: actually, I've been told the opposite. Buyers of your company want as close to zero liability as possible. Especially when they will probably come in and replace your gear with theirs. If the two seem to match, you only win bigger... Loans / Leases / Credit Lines are BAD in

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Smith
18 months on a relatively higher rate of interest (9 or >), but collateral nonetheless... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
An asset is something that you own. Maybe in accounting terms, but in real world, anything that makes you more money than it costs you is an asset, even if its not paid off. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org S

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
iginal Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... An asset is something that you own. I consider anything that is not pa

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
An asset is something that you own. I consider anything that is not paid for to be a liability. An asset that you own can be enjoyed and can make money for you. If it is paid for in a mere two to three months is this not a worthy investment, especially if it can provide a profit for years to co

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
k with your ventures. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
rote: >> >>> yep, rural NJ. Northern. ALL hills, ALL trees. >> >>> >> >>> Doin ok so far, about break even on 300k over 4 yrs, but need a >> >>> payoff, and >> >>> now I'm lookin at some private investors who are i

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Travis Johnson
need a >>> payoff, and >>> now I'm lookin at some private investors who are interested. >>> >>> I need to get a feel on realistic projections. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Scott Reed
en on 300k over 4 yrs, but need a >>> payoff, and >>> now I'm lookin at some private investors who are interested. >>> >>> I need to get a feel on realistic projections. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL P

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Travis Johnson
ok so far, about break even on 300k over 4 yrs, but need a >>> payoff, and >>> now I'm lookin at some private investors who are interested. >>> >>> I need to get a feel on realistic projections. >>> >>> >>> -----Original M

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of Joe Laura >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:10 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in bu

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
ors who are interested. >> >> I need to get a feel on realistic projections. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Joe Laura >> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:10 AM >> To: WIS

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Peter R.
Small business owners have many resources for help. The local university, small business development centers, SCORE.org, and many others. There are finance companies that can help with the leasing - or sometimes the manufacturer can help you find one. For every problem there is a solution. Re

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Travis Johnson wrote: Equipment leasing? Every install for us is a break-even (after truck roll, installing a firewall/router/AP for free, etc.) and we start making money on every customer on their first monthly payment. :) Equipment leasing only addresses one part of an operator's fixed costs.

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Travis Johnson
terested. I need to get a feel on realistic projections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... I wish

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Matt Liotta
ookin at some private investors who are interested. I need to get a feel on realistic projections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in b

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
o are interested. I need to get a feel on realistic projections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Smith
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year... I wish we would have had funding. Just hard work, 7 days a week, 14 hour days until things started rolling. Eventually made

Re: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread Joe Laura
I wish we would have had funding. Just hard work, 7 days a week, 14 hour days until things started rolling. Eventually made ends meet and then actually started seeing some profits at some point. Advertising is a mystery. Its like certain wireless gear. It might work in some areas but not others. Ar