Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
I have asked Dave in my office to put in an order for one already. Hopefully we don't have 20 of us bidding against each other now! :-) Thanks again, Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Hey John... I'd get an older one for someone to knock around a bit to see how and what they like / dislike about them. The IX250 could come equipped with an outdoor readable screen (like many PDA's have) and certain models have carry handles, too. I took mine apart, to find that the hard drive is packed within about an inch of some kind of silicon looking shock absorbing stuff, the keyboard is sealed (yeah, I dusted my wife's IBM and she had hard time forgiving me..they keyboard went gritty for a long time).If yours gets somehow blasted with dust or something, or the tech spills his coffee or Pepsi on it, you can literally wash them off! RIght now, you can find both of these on Ebay... http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobook.asp http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobookii.asp +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I will follow your lead on this Mark. Thanks for the tip. We have bought used IBM Thinkpads for years for field use with good success but frequent damage. These look like the answer. Thanks, Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I KNOW you won't buy a new one.The new ones are well over 3 grand. I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever consider taking a "normal" laptop out in the field.These things are tough, let me tell you. Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real. I dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect. They ARE heavy, however. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop grin. Not gonna buy a used one for something that important. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those site surveys, etc... http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB _W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :) Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. I like the touchscreen too. I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card slot... but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site surveys, however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a great tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on and kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed by it all. I didn't lose much, though. The laptop cost me just a bit more than a new pc card :) If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal levels (use that often for t
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Hey John... I'd get an older one for someone to knock around a bit to see how and what they like / dislike about them. The IX250 could come equipped with an outdoor readable screen (like many PDA's have) and certain models have carry handles, too. I took mine apart, to find that the hard drive is packed within about an inch of some kind of silicon looking shock absorbing stuff, the keyboard is sealed (yeah, I dusted my wife's IBM and she had hard time forgiving me..they keyboard went gritty for a long time).If yours gets somehow blasted with dust or something, or the tech spills his coffee or Pepsi on it, you can literally wash them off! RIght now, you can find both of these on Ebay... http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobook.asp http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobookii.asp +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > I will follow your lead on this Mark. Thanks for the tip. We have bought > used IBM Thinkpads for years for field use with good success but > frequent damage. These look like the answer. > Thanks, > Scriv > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > >I KNOW you won't buy a new one.The new ones are well over 3 grand. > > > >I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever consider > >taking a "normal" laptop out in the field.These things are tough, let me > >tell you. Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real. I > >dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect. > > > >They ARE heavy, however. > > > > > >+++ > >neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington > >email me at mark at neofast dot net > >541-969-8200 > >Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "WISPA General List" > >Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > > > > > > > >>grin. Not gonna buy a used one for something that important. > >> > >>Marlon > >>(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > >>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > >>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > >>64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > >>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > >>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > >> > >> > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "WISPA General List" > >>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM > >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those > >>>site surveys, etc... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB _W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > >>>:) > >>> > >>>Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can > >>> > >>> > >be > > > > > >>>dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. > >>> > >>>I like the touchscreen too. > >>> > >>>I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card > >>>slot... > >>>but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too > >>>unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site > >>>surveys, > >>>however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a > >>>great > >>>tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on > >>>and > >>>kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly > >>> > >>> > >unfazed > > > > > >>>by > >>>it all. >
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
I will follow your lead on this Mark. Thanks for the tip. We have bought used IBM Thinkpads for years for field use with good success but frequent damage. These look like the answer. Thanks, Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I KNOW you won't buy a new one.The new ones are well over 3 grand. I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever consider taking a "normal" laptop out in the field.These things are tough, let me tell you. Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real. I dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect. They ARE heavy, however. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop grin. Not gonna buy a used one for something that important. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those site surveys, etc... http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :) Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. I like the touchscreen too. I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card slot... but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site surveys, however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a great tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on and kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed by it all. I didn't lose much, though. The laptop cost me just a bit more than a new pc card :) If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal levels (use that often for troubleshooting). This seems to only give out a % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Marlon: That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are looking for is: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 4284686
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
I KNOW you won't buy a new one.The new ones are well over 3 grand. I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever consider taking a "normal" laptop out in the field.These things are tough, let me tell you. Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real. I dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect. They ARE heavy, however. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > grin. Not gonna buy a used one for something that important. > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > > Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those > > site surveys, etc... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > :) > > > > Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be > > dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. > > > > I like the touchscreen too. > > > > I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card > > slot... > > but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too > > unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site > > surveys, > > however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a > > great > > tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on > > and > > kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed > > by > > it all. > > > > I didn't lose much, though. The laptop cost me just a bit more than a > > new > > pc card :) If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ > > neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East > > Washington > > email me at mark at neofast dot net > > 541-969-8200 > > Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > > > >> Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal > >> levels (use that often for troubleshooting). This seems to only give out > > a > >> % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows). > >> > >> Marlon > >> (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > >> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > >> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM > >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > >> > >> > >> Marlon: > >> That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. > >> Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, > >> hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are > >> looking for is: > >> > >> http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 > >> Hope that hel
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
We got one of the Hawking Hi-Gain USB Wireless-G Dish Adapter just today. Has a 5-led signal strength display. Great fun. It's dish antenna is built-in but they may have one with an external antenna connection too. Rich - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: It also has no PCMCIA slot! It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are all wrong. That's probably an ExpressCard slot. Welcome to the bleeding edge. :) I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and get actual dB data from various antennas. I'm not sure such a creature exists yet. I suspect most laptops that have the new ExpressCard slot also have built-in wireless, so there isn't a perceived market for it. Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work? Well, if you're so inclined, chances are the laptop has a mini-PCI slot (if you've got onboard wireless, it definitely does). In theory, you could drill a little teensy hole in the mini-PCI slot cover, and run a pigtail out from the onboard wireless card to an external antenna. It'd look awfully ghetto but it'd probably work. (Disclaimer: This is a crazy idea. David Smith, his boss, and MVN take no responsibility for this. Void where prohibited. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Marlon, unfortunately, like others have said, you are stuck. All of the Dell "B" series notebooks are crap like this. I've worked on TOO many of them since they have come out. I would get rid of that one and for about the same price, get ahold of a cheaper Acer. They have the PCMCIA slot that you want and are going to be a better system compared to those cheap Dells. I'm a Dell and Acer reseller and I won't even sell those B series laptops to anyone. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop grin. Not gonna buy a used one for something that important. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those site surveys, etc... http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :) Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. I like the touchscreen too. I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card slot... but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site surveys, however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a great tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on and kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed by it all. I didn't lose much, though. The laptop cost me just a bit more than a new pc card :) If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal levels (use that often for troubleshooting). This seems to only give out a % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Marlon: That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are looking for is: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam ----- Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-ad
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
grin. Not gonna buy a used one for something that important. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those site surveys, etc... http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :) Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. I like the touchscreen too. I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card slot... but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site surveys, however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a great tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on and kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed by it all. I didn't lose much, though. The laptop cost me just a bit more than a new pc card :) If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal levels (use that often for troubleshooting). This seems to only give out a % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Marlon: That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are looking for is: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl > e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm > cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA > > Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus shipping. > Just went through this for a customer. > > Cheaper isn't always better :)~ > > Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of > ours needed to use their aircards. > > JohnnyO > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Cc: isp-
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those site surveys, etc... http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :) Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less. I like the touchscreen too. I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card slot... but limited RAM. I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site surveys, however. If I could find something that would work, this would be a great tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on and kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed by it all. I didn't lose much, though. The laptop cost me just a bit more than a new pc card :) If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal > levels (use that often for troubleshooting). This seems to only give out a > % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows). > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > Marlon: > That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. > Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, > hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are > looking for is: > > http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 > Hope that helps. > > * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ > * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area > * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that > fits > the slot or a usb radio > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > > > http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl > > > e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm > > cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA > > > > Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus > shipping. > > Just went through this for a customer. > > > > Cheaper isn't always better :)~ > > > > Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of > > ours needed to use their aircards. > > > > JohnnyO > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com > > Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after. I need a dB readout of the signal levels (use that often for troubleshooting). This seems to only give out a % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Marlon: That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are looking for is: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus shipping. Just went through this for a customer. Cheaper isn't always better :)~ Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of ours needed to use their aircards. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Hi All, I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some kind of hard drive error. So I have a new one here now. It's a cheapo Dell. Has no firewire but I can live with that, don't use it anyway. It also has no PCMCIA slot! It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are all wrong. I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and get actual dB data from various antennas. Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Marlon: That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are looking for is: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297 Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl > e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm > cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA > > Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus shipping. > Just went through this for a customer. > > Cheaper isn't always better :)~ > > Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of > ours needed to use their aircards. > > JohnnyO > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com > Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > Hi All, > > I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some kind of hard drive error. So > I > have a new one here now. It's a cheapo Dell. Has no firewire but I can > > live with that, don't use it anyway. It also has no PCMCIA slot! It's > got > a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are all > > wrong. > > I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and > get > actual dB data from various antennas. > > Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this > work? > > thanks, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > It also has no PCMCIA slot! > It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the > slot are all wrong. That's probably an ExpressCard slot. Welcome to the bleeding edge. :) > I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and > get actual dB data from various antennas. I'm not sure such a creature exists yet. I suspect most laptops that have the new ExpressCard slot also have built-in wireless, so there isn't a perceived market for it. > Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work? Well, if you're so inclined, chances are the laptop has a mini-PCI slot (if you've got onboard wireless, it definitely does). In theory, you could drill a little teensy hole in the mini-PCI slot cover, and run a pigtail out from the onboard wireless card to an external antenna. It'd look awfully ghetto but it'd probably work. (Disclaimer: This is a crazy idea. David Smith, his boss, and MVN take no responsibility for this. Void where prohibited. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
You won't find a radio to fit into the slot -- USB radio will limit you tremendously as far as feature sets. Good luck in your search and please post if / when you find something. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Goo > gl > e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm > cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA > > Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus > shipping. Just went through this for a customer. > > Cheaper isn't always better :)~ > > Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of > ours needed to use their aircards. > > JohnnyO > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com > Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop > > > Hi All, > > I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some kind of hard drive error. > So I have a new one here now. It's a cheapo Dell. Has no firewire > but I can > > live with that, don't use it anyway. It also has no PCMCIA slot! > It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the > slot are all > > wrong. > > I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to > and get actual dB data from various antennas. > > Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this > work? > > thanks, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus shipping. Just went through this for a customer. Cheaper isn't always better :)~ Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of ours needed to use their aircards. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Hi All, I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some kind of hard drive error. So I have a new one here now. It's a cheapo Dell. Has no firewire but I can live with that, don't use it anyway. It also has no PCMCIA slot! It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are all wrong. I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and get actual dB data from various antennas. Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus shipping. Just went through this for a customer. Cheaper isn't always better :)~ Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of ours needed to use their aircards. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Hi All, I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some kind of hard drive error. So I have a new one here now. It's a cheapo Dell. Has no firewire but I can live with that, don't use it anyway. It also has no PCMCIA slot! It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are all wrong. I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and get actual dB data from various antennas. Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/