Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread David Robertson
We are looking at how we install wireless in our Residence Halls for coverage. Currently we only place access points in the hallways, but are looking at moving them into the rooms for better coverage. We were wondering if anyone else has put the access points in the rooms and if they have

Re: Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Rick Coloccia
On 12/19/2012 8:36 AM, David Robertson wrote: We are looking at how we install wireless in our Residence Halls for coverage. Currently we only place access points in the hallways, but are looking at moving them into the rooms for better coverage. We were wondering if anyone else has put the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Dan Brisson
David, Two summers ago we installed about 500 Access Points in our Residence Halls. About 90% of them were installed directly in student rooms. The remaining 10% went above ceiling tiles in the hallway. We did this primarily b/c our Res Life staff was concerned about damage to the APs and

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Christopher Brizzell
We did this summer. We contracted out to a company to improve the wireless in our Res Halls, and the solution they came up with was to install them in the rooms. We have about 2000 students living on campus and 800 access points, mostly in bedrooms, for those 2000 students. Of those, we have

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Linchuan Yang
Dear David We installed Aps in the corridor of the residence halls, and they can cover the rooms on both sides. Two years ago, we found that some Aps were disconnected every 2 or 3 days without any reason. Then we discovered that some students unplugged the cables and they wanted to reboot the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Robert Bazinet
Sent from Lotus TravelerDan Brisson --- Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls --- From:Dan Brisson dbris...@uvm.eduToWIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUDate:Wed, 2012-12-19 6:58 AMSubjectRe: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence HallsDavid, Two summers ago we installed about 500 Access

Re: WLC 7.4

2012-12-19 Thread Rick Coloccia
Indeed, 7.4 was just released, but it requires NCS/PI 1.3, which is not yet available: WLC Version 7.4.100.0 will need Prime Infrastructure Version 1.3 to be managed, Version 1.3 is not yet available to download at this point of time So we wait... On 12/18/2012 1:04 PM, Andy Page wrote: In

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Entwistle, Bruce
We installed our APs in the hallways, and found that the APs were seeing such a strong signal from each other that the Cisco controller would power down the signal strength for the APs. This was causing a impact on coverage in the rooms along the hallway. Bruce Entwistle Network Manager

Re: Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Rick Coloccia
On 12/19/2012 9:19 AM, Entwistle, Bruce wrote: We installed our APs in the hallways, and found that the APs were seeing such a strong signal from each other that the Cisco controller would power down the signal strength for the APs. This was causing a impact on coverage in the rooms along

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Karl Reuss
We had the APs for our highrise dorms located in the hallways which was convenient for installation and maintenance, but it made for a poor RF design. Lots of co-channel interference and dynamic power management problems. Moving them into student rooms solved this, although coordinating the

SV: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4

2012-12-19 Thread Anders Nilsson
…and we also wait for Prime Infrastructure 1.2.1. So please dear Santa……;) Cheers Anders Nilsson University of Umeå Sweden Från: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] För Rick Coloccia Skickat: den 19 december 2012 15:19 Till:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Voll, Toivo
Our experience matches that of a lot of other schools. Initially, for budget reasons, a few buildings got APs in the hallways, but that's a suboptimal RF design and will not work properly, and we quickly moved away from that and instead tackled the hassles of trying to get APs into rooms and

Re: WLC 7.4

2012-12-19 Thread Andy Page
From what I understand, it will work with 1.2, you just won't be able to use the new features from 7.4. -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! - Reply message - From: Rick Coloccia coloc...@geneseo.edu To: The EDUCAUSE

SV: WLC 7.4

2012-12-19 Thread Anders Nilsson
Would you really try something unsupported by Cisco in a production environment? ;) Cheers Anders Från: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] För Andy Page Skickat: den 19 december 2012 15:51 Till:

Re: WLC 7.4

2012-12-19 Thread Rick Coloccia
Aaah, just the mDNS I need to appease my Apple user-base... It's OK, upgrading 5508s is one of the lesser painful things I do. Upgrading Prime shouldn't be too bad, either. Patching is a walk in the park. Maybe 1.2 - 1.3 will come that way... On 12/19/2012 9:51 AM, Andy Page wrote: From

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4

2012-12-19 Thread Lee H Badman
Also interesting- Cisco catches up with others doing Deep Packet Inspection in Controllers: Support for Application Visibility and Control (AVC) is introduced. AVC classifies applications using Cisco's Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) techniques with Network-Based Application Recognition (NBAR)

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Jennings, Larry W
David, During the spring and summer of 2012, the University of Tennessee Knoxville campus upgraded wireless in the dorms. We had b/g AP's in the dorm hallways and the wireless complaints were a constant reminder that we had to do something. We removed the AP's from the hallways and placed

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Lee H Badman
FWIW, we have a couple thousand APs in dorms, and thankfully they just don't break. At most we see a small handful in a calendar year that require a visit (Cisco APs in this case). Where they are in student rooms, they are left alone 99.95% or better. The students seem to realize the value of

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Sjulstad
We've had them in the rooms, constant battle with the xbox syndrome, blinking lights, falling off the wall, etc... and since we had them in one in four rooms, coverage not so good to the others. We are now installing down the halls, about every 4 doors apart, or appr 60 feet. In the 2 halls I

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread phanset
David, Let me add that we cover between 5 to 6 students per AP (we stagger APs between floors), and when an AP goes down, we rarely receive a complaint since there is enough overlap between APs. So we can take some time to fix the problem (referring to the room access issue). As Larry

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Lee H Badman
To that point- I have had to hit manual override on the fabled RRM algorithm in spots where the APs influence each other to the detriment of the clients. Typically amounts to setting a new min power level that the APs are not allowed to go below, and occasionally going old-school setting fixed

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
We're looking into a wall-box form factor for our access points. Something along the lines of one of these: http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-indoor/7025 http://www.extremenetworks.com/products/altitude-4511.aspx http://www.panoptictechnology.com/smart-room-network-jacks/ They're

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread Kade Cole
Aruba does have a solution like this in the AP-93H. We have had success with these in our residence halls. http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/access-points/ap-93h/ Kade P. Cole - kc...@siue.edu - (618) 650-3377 Southern Illinois University Edwardsville - ITS Network and Infrastructure -

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Residence Halls

2012-12-19 Thread phanset
Joel, Heads up. Many vendors provide box mounted APs with only one radio at 2.4 GHz (e.g. your Ruckus reference) or selectable spectrum (the extreme network reference or even the Aruba AP 93H). Providing only 2.4 GHz is a solution that might not last for long and only providing 5 GHz could

Wireless clients cannot connect to each other

2012-12-19 Thread nphay
I'm working on a fairly new Cisco wireless install and we just discovered that (any) two wireless clients cannot find/ping/connect to each other when they are both on wireless. I'm working on a TAC case for this now, but I wanted to see if anyone has run into this. Here are some details of our