Andy,
At UT Knoxville, we went from AP's in hallways to AP's in some dorm rooms,
taking one of the room's wired ports in the process. We've not had very many
problems with the AP's other than when the students move into their rooms.
Even then, it wasn't too bad.
lj
Larry Jennings
We put AP's in rooms and they become just like any other University owned
property, the resident is responsible for any damage to the AP. That said we
have had them in rooms for 3 years and have never had a problem with damage.
The only issue we had was the status lights, students said the
The first wireless dorm deployment(8 years ago) put all of our AP's in
the hallways, but the signal doesn't reach the outer parts of the
building where the student's desk are, especially the 5ghz. We are
slowly moving AP's into their rooms, but then students complained about
the lights
Same exact scenario for us. We were able to disable the single LED
that's on our Cisco APs.
In a couple buildings we had to put them in the hallways due to
construction but the rest are in student rooms. In the hallways
buildings, we definitely have our most busy air.
-dan
Dan Brisson
Yes, we have outsourced Residential wired and wireless access here at Union
(1 year ago). We were skeptical at first but, the more we looked at it the
better it looked. By the time we actually got everyone on board here on
campus and secured the funding it was too late for the summer break. They
We're moving from hallway deployments, which had definite signal issues for
difficult buildings, to in room Aruba 93H AP's. This microcell approach
has gotten good feedback from the students, and hasn't increased the
overall cost to deploy wireless.
Since it's in the student rooms, they are
Perhaps this re-hashed discussion of in-room as opposed to in hallway
placement should have a different topic.
Are there any more people who have either out-sourced or are considering
outsourcing provisioning and management of dorm/apartment networking for
a campus?
Peter Murphy
Director
Apogee is providing Residential Services to Canisius College and our
experiences are very much like Union's college (although we had a Summer time
roll out). We hope to include Apogee as an option when we propose upgrade to
our Academic/Administrative wireless network.
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We have opted for door number 3, Lee.
--
Daniel Eklund
Network Planning Manager
ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
University of Michigan
734.763.6389
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
I know this comes up frequently, so forgive me. We’re at a
I know this comes up frequently, so forgive me. We're at a different place than
we were at last inquiry...
Syracuse University has become an Eduroam school, and as we speak we have happy
Eduroamers around the world. Woo Woo!
At the same time, we have yet to roll out Eduroam on our own campus
Oh, and to answer your other question, this only just went into
production, so I can't say how satisfied we are with it yet.
--
Daniel Eklund
Network Planning Manager
ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
University of Michigan
734.763.6389
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Eklund
Happy with #3
-Scott
-Scott
On Nov 1, 2013 12:34 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
I know this comes up frequently, so forgive me. We’re at a different
place than we were at last inquiry…
Syracuse University has become an Eduroam school, and as we speak we have
happy Eduroamers
We did #1, but we didn't have .1x before that. My understanding is that most
places that did went for #3.
Our biggest benefit of #1 is that eduroam just works for users who go away to
other institutions, without them ever having to plan it, as it's already set up.
--
ian
From: The EDUCAUSE
We too are in the process of moving all of our Res. Hall AP’s into the suites.
All of our newer Dorms incorporated them into the suites but our legacy dorms
staggered them outside the rooms in the hallway ceilings.
The students with them in the suites have a much better experience due to the
We were in the same spot with #1 and still are (since our main SSID has been
.1x for a while). #2 was considered for the briefest of seconds but was quickly
surpassed by #3 which was the quickest to implement. We've been happy with the
rollout and it's working well.
-Brandon
From: The
We are seeing high channel utilization in one of our dorms and users are
complaining about slowness. Looking at the channel utilization, it seem
that the XBox console-controllers are using quite a bit of the frequencies
(all three main channels) and a decent duty cycle (upto 50%.)
In a
We're in the same boat, Lee. We're essentially looking at the #3 option, as
we're moving to 2 pair of WiSM-2 in an HA cluster, which would be too
complicated to squelch the SSID in certain buildings. We like the branded
SSID, so won't be changing that. We have an open-visitor SSID, as well for
We opted for #1, and created a web-auth open network with the option for
xpressconnect from cloudpath to do the configuration pieces for clients.
We've had eduroam deployed for going on 3 years now, and its taken a while
to get to the adoption level we've expected. It's taken a valient effort
We opted for #1 for the sake of less confusion.
* *
*Tim Cappalli, *Network Engineer
LTS | Brandeis University
x67149 | (617) 701-7149
cappa...@brandeis.edu
*From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lee H
The last time I found that situation, it turned out that the game device itself
was defective, just not in a way that affected gameplay. None of the other
units in the building were nearly as loud.
The building in this case was a Greek house, so I simply informed them of the
cause of their
Frank, how did you determine the defective device?
Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
York College, Nebraska
402.363.5603
jcoeho...@york.edu
*The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God,
I was able to get a spectrum analyzer in the house, and (with the occupants
help) started unplugging devices and flipping breakers until the very obvious
signal went away. Brute force, but it worked.
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Coehoorn, Joel
Just rolled it out here about a week ago. We did number 3 on your list, but
still considering number 2 because of extra overhead of an additional SSID
everywhere. Number 1, well, not for now.
Marcelo Lew
Wireless Network Architect Engineer
University Technology Services
University of Denver
Thanks, Marcelo. We're likely following with #3, but the extra overhead thing
does gnaw at me a bit (but probably not enough that I can't pretend it's not
gnawing at me).
Thanks everyone, for the responses.
-Lee
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
By the way...
For schools that go with #1 (use eduroam as your own SSID), there is a free
installer that can make the rollout of 802.1X
quite easy! Not a bad saving!
http://cat.eduroam.org
Best,
Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us
On Nov 1, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Ian McDonald
Good stuff- I hope we get some users after rolling it out. I did poll our
distributed support folks, and as of yet can’t find any hidden demand. At the
same time, we don’t know what we don’t know, ya know?
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
We have not even had it rolled out a full week and here is what I have
seen. May not be exact, but is pretty suprising.
238 unique users from 106 unique domains.
This is the breakout of country codes
1 ie
1 nz
2 at
2 dk
2 it
2 pt
3 fi
4 es
4
Sorry, bad filtering. Here is the correct data.
199 Unique users from 90 different domains.
This is a list of how many unique users from the country codes in the
domains
1 at
1 dk
1 ie
1 nz
2 it
2 pt
3 fi
4 au
4 es
4 fr
5 cz
That's pretty cool, thanks Walter.
Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Walter Reynolds
How did you get those stats, Walter?
Bruce Boardman - Syracuse University Network Engineer - 315 889-1667
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Friday,
Lee,
Option#3
We are just about to broadcast eduroam throughout our campus too. For
now, we are going with our own branded WPA-2K SSID and eduroam. With
the cat.eduroam.org's tool, we are able to create a single WPA2K
supplicant profile on all but the Android devices. So, there should be
I got the data by pulling the radius login data and filtering it based on
username.
Walter Reynolds
Principal Systems Security Development Engineer
Information and Technology Services
University of Michigan
(734) 615-9438
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Bruce Boardman
I hear you, and appreciate it it a point. At the same time, I don't buy into
losing our identity to be part of something global, especially when measured in
terms of 16K+ users on our branded campus WLAN at daily peaks, and a few dozen
Eduroamers expected.
In other words, why change something
I've been asked to set up two access points for a charity, and I've come to
the realization I've never configured Cisco IOS AP, only the WLC models.
What I'm fishing for is deployment Idea's, with the use case of nobody
technical is going to manage these things, unless they get another
volunteer.
What models are they? You probably need to change the default IOS to get a
stable one.
--
ian
-Original Message-
From: Mike King
Sent: 01-11-2013, 19:26
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco IOS Access points
I've been asked to set up two access points
Hi Mike,
I couldn't find any old config files, :-(
we would do access-lists and apply on the BVI interface and vty line, also
no ip http secure-server
no ip http server
best!
On 11/1/2013 3:11 PM, Mike King wrote:
I've been asked to set up two access points for a charity, and I've
come to
Lee,
I hate to bust your identity pride ;-) but...
In my experience the only people that care about the SSID names are the IT
Crowd and some of the University administrators.
(when will we have TV series on University Administrators?)
Users just want something that works...they don't even look
I have been debating the eduroam idea for a while and how we'd phase it in.
The desire to get away from having a bunch of SSIDs and having realm based
roles under a single SSID is really appealing. Our main issue is that we have
just pushed people off an old unsecured SSID onto a new SSID,
Nothing busted, but also not buying it.
Every environment is different, every organization's IT offerings are marketed
a different way, and I'm not accepting analysis from afar that there is no
value in our branding. I'd caution against such a blanket dismissal of how
every institution that
Mike,
We still have a remote office using IOS. Here's a few tweaks that haven't
been mentioned yet. Some config maybe default, not sure.
# allow for ARP proxy
dot11 arp-cache
#Example radio config with some basic settings (some maybe default) and ACL to
keep rogue dhcp servers at bay.
In my experience- the fat APs also tend to want fixed speed and duplex where
the lightweights want auto/auto- wonder if anyone would concur or disagree.
-Lee
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike King
Sent:
They're 1142's, and I had to pull the IOS down from cisco (152-4.JA1),
since I had to convert them from CAPWAP to IOS.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Ian McDonald i...@st-andrews.ac.uk wrote:
What models are they? You probably need to change the default IOS to get a
stable one.
--
ian
I don't want to hijack this discussion, and I'll apologize now for it, but
I do have an eduroam question. How resource intensive is it to implement
and maintain an eduroam deployment? We are a smaller institution, but
we've had a handful of requests from faculty members to adopt eduroam.
There
Having just done it, I can say that for your own users that want to leverage
Eduroam while you travel, it's quite easy once you federate your RADIUS servers
with Eduroam's, and that Philippe's team is phenomenal to work with in that
regard. Then there is educating your travelers to use the
I run a number of the 1142's in autonomous mode. Basically follow John's
config with the operational rates 6.0 , 9.0 , 12.0 , 18.0 , 24.0 , 36.0 ,
48.0 , 54.0 Mb/sec etc... to avoid B connections slowing down other
connections.
*Also remember to turn the antennas on. Manually set the channels to
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On 11/01/2013 04:13 PM, Matt Williams wrote:
I don't want to hijack this discussion, and I'll apologize now for it, but I
do have an eduroam question. How
resource intensive is it to implement and maintain an eduroam deployment? We
are a
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