RE: Airwave Support for Cisco Devices

2014-10-27 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Mike Tennefoss is a good contact. Although I cannot comment on Aruba's support for Cisco wireless, I know that Airwave is going through some major pains to add back functionality lost when rearchitecting the product to eliminate Adobe Flash dependencies. Anyway, FWIW, I am sure Aruba's support

RE: Airwave Support for Cisco Devices

2014-10-27 Thread Lee H Badman
Anyway, FWIW, I am sure Aruba's support for Cisco wireless is much better than Cisco's support for Aruba wireless. Lee gives this two big fat thumbs' up. :) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU

Meraki Evaluation

2014-10-27 Thread Jeremy Hunt
We're getting some evaluation Meraki APs shortly and I was wondering if anyone had any information on how Meraki worked out for you; what trouble you ran into (if any) or anything else you might want to share. Thanks in advance, Jeremy Hunt Network Analyst Lansing Community College

Meraki Evaluation

2014-10-27 Thread Jeremy Hunt
We're getting some evaluation Meraki APs shortly and I was wondering if anyone had any information on how Meraki worked out for you; what trouble you ran into (if any) or anything else you might want to share. Thanks in advance, Jeremy Hunt Network Analyst Lansing Community College

RE: Meraki Evaluation

2014-10-27 Thread Lee H Badman
We have adopted Meraki as our branch solution of choice. We have sites that use just Meraki APs, and others that use Meraki site-site VPN,LAN switches, and APs. Generally quite content. Be happy to do a call if you'd like (rather than type out paragraphs). Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meraki Evaluation

2014-10-27 Thread Greg Briggs
We use a handful of Meraki APs in two locations. They work very well. We have had no major issues. The branch office scenario seems to be a popular use case for them, but I would add them to a list of solutions to evaluate for other purposes as well. You can call me if you would like. Greg

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meraki Evaluation

2014-10-27 Thread Hall, Rand
Jeremy, We've deployed 475+ APs over the last three years and been *very *happy until recently. The lack of transparency is becoming problematic. Non-firmware dependent (cloud) features often come and go without warning or documentation. Firmware release notes are unavailable. We recently blindly

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meraki Evaluation

2014-10-27 Thread Heath Barnhart
We evaluated them a couple years ago during an RFP. I found that they worked fairly well overall, but I believe there was some concerns about how they would work with our registration system. I believe they were in the final running but we went with another vendor. -- Heath Barnhart ITS

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Kitri Waterman
Marriott Hotel Services has come to a $600,000 agreement with the Federal Communications Commission to settle allegations that the hotel chain interfered with and disabled Wi-Fi networks established by consumers in the conference facilities at a Nashville hotel in March 2013. According to the

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Williams, Matthew
I don't think that there's a distinction about the location. My understanding is that the issue was that Marriott was jamming the hotspots to force people to pay for the hotel provided wireless network. I don't think that there would have been a lawsuit if the hotel Wi-Fi was free.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Lee H Badman
Not so sure I agree- I know that Marriott's insane fees led to this, but the FCC seems to be saying you can't touch people's Wi-Fi, period whether you offer a free alternative or not seems irrelevant. But then again, it appears that they issued a decision and were clueless about the fact that

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Pete Hoffswell
My thought is that the FCC is simply trying to police the ISM band, as outlined in FCC part 15 regulations http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=d5df6d61f643786c6651653f0942fd73node=pt47.1.15rgn=div5 The 2.4GHz ISM band is free an open for everyone to use. If you intentionally disrupt

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Thomas Carter
IANAL, but it seems the FCC is trying to regulate the “communications.” Sending a spoofed disassociate may not be jamming, but it is intentionally interrupting valid communications. They may see making something unusable through whatever means as equivalent to jamming. Thomas Carter Network

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Tony Skalski
If you have a rogue AP on your campus, and you mitigate it by sending a spoofed disassociate packet, well, are you jamming? IANAL, but I pipe up anyway... If this AP is connected to your (wired) network (i.e. extending it) or is masquerading as a part of your network (advertising your SSID)

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Dave Flynn
While I agree that this opens up a nasty precedent for commercial institutions, I don't think it's a threat to colleges or universities. We ask our students to sign a number of agreements when they matriculate, one of which has to do with being a good net citizen (don't DDOS our servers or

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
. We ask our students to sign a number of agreements when they matriculate, one of which has to do with being a good net citizen (don't DDOS our servers or anyone else's, don't download protected content, etc). They must agree not to use their own APs without the permission of IT* I'm not sure

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Luke Jenkins
From paragraph 24 of the Consent Decree The Parties further agree that this Consent Decree does not constitute either an adjudication on the merits or a factual or legal finding or determination regarding any compliance or noncompliance with the Communications Laws. While we now know that the FCC

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Peter P Morrissey
So isn’t the MiFi device essentially jamming your network and interrupting valid communications if it overlaps a nearby channel? Pete Morrissey From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: Monday,

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Tony Skalski
So isn’t the MiFi device essentially jamming your network and interrupting valid communications if it overlaps a nearby channel? No. It's not your network, in the sense that the wired infrastructure you built is. The wireless network uses a free to use, public, unlicensed RF spectrum. Yes you

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Peter P Morrissey
That’s my point. If it isn’t my network, then it isn’t the MiFi owner’s network either. Pete Morrissey From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Skalski Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:18 PM To:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal

2014-10-27 Thread Hunter Fuller
Along that line of thinking, they must be equals. So if you can send the student deauths, legally, they can send your users deauths too (although violating university policy they may be). -- Hunter Fuller Network Engineer VBRH M-9B +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University