When we did our Res Halls, the requirements I put in place were no more than 30
devices per AP and a minimum RSSI of -63 in 2.4 GHz. It worked out that every 3
rooms had an AP, and I staggered the installation across the hall and between
floor to get sort of pyramid shaped coverage zones (if
On Dec 16, 2013, at 06:39 , Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
bosbo...@liberty.edu wrote:
Aruba already has their product on the market – the AP93H.
http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/access-points/ap-93h/
Biggest difference though is that it’s not dual band.
--
Julian Y. Koh
And of course having just installed your multi thousand AP wireless network,
fully surveyed and planned for data only (as agreed in the scope), you then get
told that it will now need to support Lync 2013 VOIP clients on thousands of
staff mobiles/cell phones...sigh.
**
Participation
Hi Jennifer,
Agreed that these are different requirements but IMHO a well designed HD data
WLAN has much of the characteristics of a VOIP wlan although especially roaming
is quite a beast to tame...
-Kees
Jennifer Francis Wilson jfwils...@uclan.ac.uk 12/13/2013 10:50
And of course having
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Hi Jennifer,
Agreed that these are different requirements but IMHO a well designed HD
data WLAN has much of the characteristics of a VOIP wlan although
especially roaming is quite a beast to tame...
-Kees
Jennifer Francis Wilson jfwils
Through contacts at my alma mater, I know they were doing what you describe
until this year. This is their first year with a managed wifi deployment. I
don't know how happy they are with the new system, but I can tell you they
had a lot of complaints under the old method.
Joel Coehoorn
I forgot to add: that institution is about 5000 residential undergrads,
about 12 residence halls, and about 40/60 apartment vs dormitory.
Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
York College, Nebraska
402.363.5603
jcoeho...@york.edu
*The mission of York College is to transform
Sounds like a bad idea.Most SOHO routers/ap's you pick up at bestbuy/fry's run at max Tx power and have lowest supported data-rate of 1Mbps. Your 2.4GHz RF will be likely be unusable. ResHalls are even worse (RF-wise) than apartments, as they are much closer together.Let me know if you'd like me
For new residence halls, I would really push the 702W AP. They're not
actually out yet, but depending on how far out you are you could still
account for them in your plan.
If you haven't seen them yet,
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps12968/data_sheet_c78-728968.html
Thanks to all for your feedback. Max, do you publish these best practices
or is it internal?
Jake Barros | Network Administrator | Office of Information Technology
Grace College and Seminary | Winona Lake, IN | 574.372.5100 x6178
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Max Lawrence Lopez
Coming in a little late on this thread, but Tristan brings up an
excellent point. We are dealing with multiple areas in our dorms where
AirMagnet Survey with the AirMagnet a/b/g/n card had a much better
RSSI/SNR than the student with an iPad or iPhone has. What we should
have done when
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Coming in a little late on this thread, but Tristan brings up an excellent
point. We are dealing with multiple
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Coming in a little late on this thread, but Tristan brings up an excellent
point. We are dealing with multiple areas in our dorms where AirMagnet
Survey with the AirMagnet a/b/g/n card had a much better RSSI/SNR than
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This blog post at aerohive has good info on determining transmit power on devices
Also, coming in a bit late, but I am beginning to think the best method for
my reshalls anyway is to put an AP in every other room, as they run
linearly down a hallway. Then stagger the floor above to offset by one
room. We've been doing every 3rd room lately and while it seems adequate,
I think
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Coming in a little late on this thread, but Tristan brings up an
excellent point
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Yikes, didn't think they were weak but it has been a while since I've looked.
Based on that, are folks aiming to accommodate
...@email.unc.edu
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Things like iPhones are a lot lower than 25 mW. Closer to 17.
Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina
On 12/12/2013 5:11 PM, Ian McDonald wrote:
It seems to me to be completely impractical from a planning and
budgetary perspective to be increasing the density of AP's on an
annual basis due to poor client design, whether low transmit power,
antenna deficiency, or insufficiently well designed
, December 12, 2013 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning
On 12/12/2013 5:11 PM, Ian McDonald wrote:
It seems to me to be completely impractical from a planning and budgetary
perspective to be increasing the density of AP's on an annual basis due to poor
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On 12/12/2013 5:11 PM, Ian McDonald wrote:
It seems to me to be completely impractical from a planning and
budgetary perspective
We're in the process, right now. We've got basic coverage, and in the
classrooms we've tried to accommodate for higher density. However, with 3,
4 or more devices per student - or person really - we're looking at a
refresh of the 1,400 APs we have now and effectively doubling that - or
more.
. No easy way to
skin this cat ☺
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In certain areas, sure. One more thing we're going to have
On 13/12/13 07:40, Frank Sweetser wrote:
In certain areas, sure. One more thing we're going to have to divine
from our tea leaves is which areas only need coverage, and which need
the extra money sunk in for high capacity. Unfortunately, all it takes
is a professor who wants in class laptop
The cutoff for Cisco wireless phones in 5Ghz is -67 per their design guide
for voice and I use closer to -70 in 2.4 Ghz for data-only deployments.
These are all low-density deployments however, so YMMV for dorms.
Nathan Hay
Network Engineer | NOC
WinWholesale Inc.
888-225-5947
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The cutoff for Cisco wireless phones in 5Ghz is -67 per
Of Nathan Hay
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The cutoff for Cisco wireless phones in 5Ghz is -67 per their design guide for
voice and I use closer to -70 in 2.4 Ghz for data-only deployments.
These are all
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The cutoff for Cisco wireless phones
Hello Jake,
Here are our Best Practices:
University of Colorado
Best Practices Guide for Wireless Design
The following is a list of the Best Practices used for creating Wireless
Network Designs for the Boulder Campus of the University of Colorado. This
design includes optimal coverage cells,
Hi all,
What device or test equipment is being used for the RSSI value? If we see
-65dBm on a Fluke AirCheck, we’re lucky to get -72dBm on an Intel 5100 in an HP
laptop, as an example. We’d like to pick a specific device, eg, an iPad and
create standard measurements on such a device so the
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As we remodel newer dorms moving forward, we
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