RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] client provisioning

2013-12-12 Thread Tim Cappalli
Eduroam has a free, customizable configuration utility: https://cat.eduroam.org/ *Tim Cappalli* | ACCP / ACMP / CCNA Network Engineer | Brandeis University cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:

RE: client provisioning

2013-12-12 Thread Lee H Badman
CloudPath- frequent updates, wide OS compatibility, great support, good cost model (for us, I've heard others complain about price), easy to administer and fit in to environment. Quite happy with ExpressConnect and CloudPath in general. Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS,

RE: client provisioning

2013-12-12 Thread Marcelo Lew
Agree with Lee on every aspect. Marcelo Lew Wireless Network Architect Engineer University Technology Services University of Denver Desk: (303) 871-6523 Cell: (303) 669-4217 Fax: (303) 871-5900 Email: m...@du.edumailto:m...@du.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] client provisioning

2013-12-12 Thread Frank Sweetser
Ditto. Our service desk was getting overwhelmed with wireless configuration issues while it was still a manual process, both from the number of devices and the every-widening range that people assumed we would support (It works at home!) Cloudpath isn't cheap, but it's definitely paid for

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Barros, Jacob
Thanks to all for your feedback. Max, do you publish these best practices or is it internal? Jake Barros | Network Administrator | Office of Information Technology Grace College and Seminary | Winona Lake, IN | 574.372.5100 x6178 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Max Lawrence Lopez

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Dan Brisson
Coming in a little late on this thread, but Tristan brings up an excellent point. We are dealing with multiple areas in our dorms where AirMagnet Survey with the AirMagnet a/b/g/n card had a much better RSSI/SNR than the student with an iPad or iPhone has. What we should have done when

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Turner, Ryan H
Things like iPhones are a lot lower than 25 mW. Closer to 17. Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113 Office +1 919 274 7926 Mobile From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Jason Watts
This blog post at aerohive has good info on determining transmit power on devices. Interesting that the report lists different power levels at different frequencies. http://blogs.aerohive.com/blog/the-network-revolution/apple-ipad-3-and-other-mobile-device-wi-fi-output-power -- Jason Watts

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Craig Eyre
As a good example I was down in an area just yesterday that mentioned of poor signal and I initially went down with my nexus 7 and my analyzer program and could barely get -80 dbm. I found it very odd so I went back and got my laptop with Ekahau and my ekahau usb-300(?) nic and was easily

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Michael Sjulstad
Also, coming in a bit late, but I am beginning to think the best method for my reshalls anyway is to put an AP in every other room, as they run linearly down a hallway. Then stagger the floor above to offset by one room. We've been doing every 3rd room lately and while it seems adequate, I think

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Dan Brisson
Yikes, didn't think they were weak but it has been a while since I've looked. Based on that, are folks aiming to accommodate that weak of a signal at -65 or close to that? -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont (Ph) 802.656.8111 dbris...@uvm.edu On 12/12/13, 1:54 PM,

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Turner, Ryan H
To put it in perspective, the transmit powers for iPhone 5 (yanked from: http://blogs.aerohive.com/blog/the-network-revolution/apple-iphone-5-wi-fi-specs) Frequency bands supported: *2.4 GHz ISM (Channels 1 - 11), Power Output ~16dBm *5 GHz UNII-1 (Channels 36 - 48), Power Output ~14dBm

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Ian McDonald
It seems to me to be completely impractical from a planning and budgetary perspective to be increasing the density of AP's on an annual basis due to poor client design, whether low transmit power, antenna deficiency, or insufficiently well designed front-ends. If a device can't connect to the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Jeff Kell
On 12/12/2013 5:11 PM, Ian McDonald wrote: It seems to me to be completely impractical from a planning and budgetary perspective to be increasing the density of AP's on an annual basis due to poor client design, whether low transmit power, antenna deficiency, or insufficiently well designed

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Turner, Ryan H
It not just poor client design, however (and I can't really always call it poor design, because who here doesn't get peeved with a short battery life device?? Which is what low transmit power helps). We are really switching from a coverage based design to capacity based design. If we want

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Frank Sweetser
In certain areas, sure. One more thing we're going to have to divine from our tea leaves is which areas only need coverage, and which need the extra money sunk in for high capacity. Unfortunately, all it takes is a professor who wants in class laptop survey software getting scheduled in the

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Danny Eaton
We're in the process, right now. We've got basic coverage, and in the classrooms we've tried to accommodate for higher density. However, with 3, 4 or more devices per student - or person really - we're looking at a refresh of the 1,400 APs we have now and effectively doubling that - or more.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread Turner, Ryan H
Well, the problem is with the natural attenuation of the 5 gig band. Since it can only go half the distance that 2.4 can go with the same power level, you are going to have to space these things apart if you want people to move from cell to cell on the 5 gig band and maintain a high data rate.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

2013-12-12 Thread James Andrewartha
On 13/12/13 07:40, Frank Sweetser wrote: In certain areas, sure. One more thing we're going to have to divine from our tea leaves is which areas only need coverage, and which need the extra money sunk in for high capacity. Unfortunately, all it takes is a professor who wants in class laptop