RE: Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Lee, Our thoughts and planning on this subject started about the time I read your email. :) I have not given any thought to this before but your email has raised questions as to what we might need to consider going forward. Considering how we would implement something like this in our

RE: Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Hi Don- I agree on the costs. I'm thinking opportunistically, like where a major re-work or new building might be in work versus retrofit. There's a lot of technical and philosophical points to be considered, for sure. -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

RE: Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Hi group! Back when we initially deployed I had discussions with the building guys, esp. the Elevator team. Back then, our main goal was seamless voice over wifi. I was told that it was (at least in my province and country, Quebec, Canada) against Safety Code IV to put any such device in the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

I should add that the fire marshall views stairwells as a means of egress and so does not want people congregating in them in an emergency. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Daniel Eklund wrote: > Lee, > > At the University of Michigan we are in the midst of a large scale >

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

On Wed Nov 18 2015 09:26:03 CST, Lee H Badman wrote: > > As you get into new building wireless deployments, I’m wondering if anyone is > rethinking their coverage of elevators (like with dedicated coverage in each > car) and stairwells (also specific coverage, not just bleed

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Our security installer uses coax to Ethernet converters for elevator IP cams because there aren't usually Cat cables in the traveler cable bundle. We had some solid-core installed along the traveler in a new building in 2010 and it failed within a year due to the constant flexing. Though I'm

RE: Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

For the elevator, I was recently at one of the newer state-of-the-art Kaiser Hospitals here in California, and they have a AP on each floor, positioned at the ceiling and close to the entrance to the elevators. Coverage inside the elevator was great. For stairwells, you probably need to

RE: Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Our newest building, completed in 2013, has network drops in the stairwells, but a good fireproof caulking to seal the cabling seemed to satisfy the inspection. If you think about it, there are power cables for lights, low voltage cabling for fire alarms, etc in stairwells; why would an

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution

We’re just doing local building cellular boosters. Relatively inexpensive ( http://www.amazon.com/Wilson-Electronics-Indoor-Cellular-Booster/dp/B00IWW9AB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1418307096=8-1=wilson+cell+phone+booster ) and we do them on an as-needed basis usually by targeting high complaint

RE: Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

It's a really great question just considering new/major re-work. I'm wondering if the elevator manufacturers might start remodeling the elevators to allow for wireless access points in addition to the emergency phones already required. To that point I wonder if it will eventually become part of

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Lee, At the University of Michigan we are in the midst of a large scale buildout. We currently are locating access points as close as possible to stairwells, but not in them because our fire marshall will not allow us to locate access points or antennas in the stairwells themselves. WRT

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Been a long time since these type of questions came up. Summary of Idea's I've heard over the years: - Mounting the AP in-car, - Standard Ethernet but I think you'd probably be limited to 3 stories or so (and need special cable) - DSL or LongReach ethernet to In-car, to AP in

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

I have seen POE IP Cameras in (newer) elevators – I’m sure additional ethernet drops could be included at the time of installation. Retrofitting into existing elevators may be a more difficult task. Thanks, Chris Adams Director, Network & Telecom Services Division of Information Technology

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

Here our Safety office is working on a Risk Assessment document to present to the Fire Marshall for an exemption. In our case, having caregivers been possibly out of communication is a patient safety issue and we are addressing it with a Risk Assessment document to install AP in the

Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

Hi, This is my first post in this group. I have really enjoyed being a part of this group and have learned quite a bit so you thank you to all members. Recently I was asked If there was a way we could supply wireless connectivity in our athletic buses for student athletes as they travel to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution

I should technically qualify this by saying that the device below doesn’t actually amplify so much as replicate the outside quality signal of the antenna so location choice is important. Dexter Caldwell Dir. Systems & Networks Information Technology Services Furman University 3300 Poinsett

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution

I am not familiar with MobileAccess VE but searching Cisco's website seems to suggest that it is the Corning One solution which I have looked at. The Corning One solution is a Passive Optical Network (PON) which has a headend box and each fiber pair runs throughout the facility until it

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

We put some gear on our shuttle buses that travel between campuses a few years ago. Basically a Cradlepoint router (Verizon LTE cellular backhaul with an ethernet hand off). That ethernet hand off goes to a wifi access point that is able to do dns lookup and find its controller (happens to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution

I have used Wilson gear before and it really doesn’t work well here since there is little outdoor signal to amplify. Wi-Fi calling might be the future but it still requires a voice-grade Wi-Fi network to work well and it requires handset support for it. Both of those are issues not easily

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

Check with your constituents and see if there is a government contract with the cellular providers for data services. I realize this may not help Denison as a private institution, but there are unlimited data options that are available for very reasonable prices that would be great for these types

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution

This is a great thread. We had a conversation about this at EDUCAUSE National this year. One of the participants was having much success after a long bout of failures with Boingo. Apparently things were actually starting to happen with their DAS. This thread suggests otherwise. Anyone have

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution

My understanding is that the carrier still supports the Cisco small cell solution. In fact, only a carrier can purchase the modules, and right now only they decide if, when, and where to install the modules, and they control them. All of that is fine by me, but it's just taking a long time to

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

Daniel, Several years back Cisco had a similar setup in some transportation busses for their Cisco Live conference to showcase some technology. The devices would give wifi access to passengers over cellular when away from the conference center and when the bus got close it would switch over

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

We put a cell network based device in two busses this Fall and have had great success with it so far. Internet access only. I am glad to answer any questions you have. http://www.yoursinglepoint.com/ Jake Jacob Barros | Associate Director of IT, Network and Operations Grace College and

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

I sent out a data sheet for the ethernet traveler cable that we used here earlier in the thread. Feel free to ping me directly if it didn't come through for you. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple,

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

We didn’t deploy this on the athletic buses, but we did do something similar for a traveling science bus. Rather than build the service into the bus, we built a portable suitcase (a pelican like case). On the exterior we mounted a dual (diversity) enclosed antenna array complete with a GPS

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

I know people may snicker at this but take a look at the offerings from Aerohive for this. I demoed a solution that was VERY slick. I think it would work very well for you. *--Jeremy L. Gibbs* Sr. Network Engineer Utica College IITS T: (315) 223-2383 F: (315) 792-3814 E: jlgi...@utica.edu

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

For mobile applications I've done both Cradlepoint and Cisco. Cisco is nice because everyone knows how to manage Cisco Routers. The Cradlepoint solution has some added benefits. Cloud management is nice, as is being able to look at GPS data. Also the "Wifi As WAN" feature on the Cradlepoint

RE: Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

We are using Aruba RAP-3 APs in some of our highway coaches. The AP connects to the router built-in to the bus and uses LTE cellular for the backhaul. It is so popular, there are constant data overage charges, though. ​ Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options in Athletic Buses

I am not snicking, I think Aerohive equipment is pretty nice and I looked it when it was still in early beta. I see them gaining more traction over the years since they seem to be do a good job at what they have focused on. Todd From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

Fwd: Wireless survey

Franklin & Marshall College is currently looking at upgrading its wireless infrastructure and is soliciting information on other institution's wireless environments. We will summarize the results out to those who respond. I also posted this request out to the Educause Netman list and the CLAC

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Mike King wrote: > > Been a long time since these type of questions came up. > Summary of Idea's I've heard over the years: > • Mounting the AP in-car, > • Standard Ethernet but I think you'd probably be limited to 3 >