Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Jeremy Gibbs]

Utica College - Utica NY
2,000 - 3,000 wireless users a day
315 Extreme 3825i APs all wireless AC
2x Extreme 5210 wireless controllers
2 SSIDs (UC_Secure and UC_Wireless)

UC_Secure -> 802.1X
UC_Wireless -> open with captive portal




*--Jeremy L. Gibbs*
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

T: (315) 223-2383
F: (315) 792-3814
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Jess Walczak  wrote:

> University of Saint Thomas - Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
> 7500 concurrent wireless and ~7000 concurrent wired on normal day
> ~1100 Cisco APs (counts of 216 b/g, 501 g/n, and 389 ac); 214 Cisco
> switches --> Rolling upgrade cycle
> Cisco 8510 HA Controller Pair for large campus, Cisco 5508 HA Controller
> Pair for small campus, single 5508 test controller
> ISE for both 802.1x SSID and Guest SSID via web auth, unencrypted,
> click-to-accept AUP.  Soon to add Eduroam
> Prime 2.2.0.0.158
>
> Jess Walczak
> Senior Network Analyst
> Information Technology Services
> jwwalc...@stthomas.edu
> University of St. Thomas | stthomas.edu
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Michael Hulko  wrote:
>
>> The University of Western Ontario, Canada
>>
>> 28-30k concurrent devices
>> 4000 Aruba APs
>> Aruba Controllers :  Master - Local with redundancy
>> Guest Access : Clearpass portal
>> Airwave monitoring
>>
>> currently refreshing to ‘AC’ compatible APs.
>>
>> Mike H
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Watters, John  wrote:
>>
>> I was going to give time for other questions to be suggested. However, it
>> seems that folks have started replying very quickly.
>>
>> I will tally this up & send it back out, maybe even tonight (though
>> probably not).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -jcw
>>  
>>
>>
>> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>> Office of Information
>> Technology
>> 205-348-3992
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>>
>> Michael Hulko
>> Network Analyst
>>
>> Western University Canada
>> Network Operations Centre
>> Information Technology Services
>> 1393 Western Road, SSB 3300CC
>> London, Ontario  N6G 1G9
>>
>> tel: 519-661-2111 x81390
>> e-mail: mihu...@uwo.ca
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Jess Walczak]

University of Saint Thomas - Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
7500 concurrent wireless and ~7000 concurrent wired on normal day
~1100 Cisco APs (counts of 216 b/g, 501 g/n, and 389 ac); 214 Cisco
switches --> Rolling upgrade cycle
Cisco 8510 HA Controller Pair for large campus, Cisco 5508 HA Controller
Pair for small campus, single 5508 test controller
ISE for both 802.1x SSID and Guest SSID via web auth, unencrypted,
click-to-accept AUP.  Soon to add Eduroam
Prime 2.2.0.0.158

Jess Walczak
Senior Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
jwwalc...@stthomas.edu
University of St. Thomas | stthomas.edu


On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Michael Hulko  wrote:

> The University of Western Ontario, Canada
>
> 28-30k concurrent devices
> 4000 Aruba APs
> Aruba Controllers :  Master - Local with redundancy
> Guest Access : Clearpass portal
> Airwave monitoring
>
> currently refreshing to ‘AC’ compatible APs.
>
> Mike H
>
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Watters, John  wrote:
>
> I was going to give time for other questions to be suggested. However, it
> seems that folks have started replying very quickly.
>
> I will tally this up & send it back out, maybe even tonight (though
> probably not).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -jcw
>  
>
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
> Office of Information
> Technology
> 205-348-3992
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
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>
>
>
> Michael Hulko
> Network Analyst
>
> Western University Canada
> Network Operations Centre
> Information Technology Services
> 1393 Western Road, SSB 3300CC
> London, Ontario  N6G 1G9
>
> tel: 519-661-2111 x81390
> e-mail: mihu...@uwo.ca
>
>
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Michael Hulko]

The University of Western Ontario, Canada

28-30k concurrent devices
4000 Aruba APs
Aruba Controllers :  Master - Local with redundancy
Guest Access : Clearpass portal
Airwave monitoring

currently refreshing to ‘AC’ compatible APs.

Mike H

On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Watters, John 
> wrote:

I was going to give time for other questions to be suggested. However, it seems 
that folks have started replying very quickly.

I will tally this up & send it back out, maybe even tonight (though probably 
not).






-jcw
  

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Michael Hulko
Network Analyst

Western University Canada
Network Operations Centre
Information Technology Services
1393 Western Road, SSB 3300CC
London, Ontario  N6G 1G9

tel: 519-661-2111 x81390
e-mail: mihu...@uwo.ca




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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Edward Ip]

Upgrade/replacement strategy:
Generally 5 years for wireless (depends really on funding) and 7 years for our 
Cisco wired infrastructure.


Guest/Visitor management system:
Current Guest Portal is homegrown but moving to ClearPass Guest soon

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jennifer Francis Wilson
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 10:55 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we include -

- Recent replacement/upgrade strategy (total 3 year, total 5 year, rolling)
- Guest/Visitor management system (ISE, Clearpass, Cloudpath etc.)

Regards,

Jen.


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: 01 April 2016 15:06
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Williams, Matthew]

Kent State University
24,000 concurrent devices
3,300 Cisco APs
Controller Based
Cisco Prime 2.2
Rolling refresh (2,100 ac APs with  1200 n APs to go)  - Want to get to a 5 
year refresh plan
ClearPass for Guests

Respectfully,

Matt

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jennifer Francis Wilson
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:55 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we include -

- Recent replacement/upgrade strategy (total 3 year, total 5 year, rolling)
- Guest/Visitor management system (ISE, Clearpass, Cloudpath etc.)

Regards,

Jen.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: 01 April 2016 15:06
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Trinklein, Jason R]

College of Charleston
15,000 unique devices per day
Xirrus – 700 multi-radio (2, 4, 8, 12 radio) APs with a campus total of 4,000 
radios, all XR model units. We are considering the new XD platform for future 
build-outs.
Max AP 802.11 standard capability: 30% 802.11ac wave 1, 70% 802.11n. Indoor 
coverage 3x3 MIMO, outdoor commonly 2x2 MIMO. Radio band distribution: 25% 
2.4Ghz, 75% 5Ghz
Campus-wide average PHY link rate: 62Mbps. Campus-wide average Macbook PHY link 
rate: 120Mbps
Standalone APs configured and managed centrally by Xirrus Management System 
(XMS Enterprise)
Unhappily using Cisco ISE for RADIUS.
Happily using Splunk for logging.

We are very impressed with Xirrus’s ability to handle high density environments 
and wide range of available models, including many outdoor options. Great 
customer support. We’re very happy with them.
--
Jason Trinklein
Wireless Engineering Manager
College of Charleston
81 St. Philip Street | Office 311D | Charleston, SC 29403
trinkle...@cofc.edu | Office - (843) 300-8009

From: "Watters, John" >
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:05:35 +
To: 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)]

Liberty University
5 year Lifecycle Management
HP Aruba ClearPass Guest management
​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Jennifer Francis Wilson [mailto:jfwils...@uclan.ac.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we include -

- Recent replacement/upgrade strategy (total 3 year, total 5 year, rolling)
- Guest/Visitor management system (ISE, Clearpass, Cloudpath etc.)

Regards,

Jen.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: 01 April 2016 15:06
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Cosgrove, John]

Penn State College of Medicine,  Penn State Health
2000 Cisco AP
Prime Infrastructure
40k users per day…ish..


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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

MSU Denver is an Aerohive shop



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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)]

Liberty University
21,4090 clients
HP Aruba 2800 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba master controller management
HP Aruba Airwave monitoring

​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Watters, John [mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:06 AM
Subject: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Fouad Yatim]

School name: Suffolk University
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day: 5,000
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand: 1000 Aruba 
APs
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based: Controller based, ClearPass 
and Airwave.
Wireless management platform: ClearPass and Aruba Airwave Management.

Fouad Yatim
Associate, CIO
Suffolk University | Information Technology Services
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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Lyn University
2000 clients
Cisco 450 Aps
5520's Controller based
CiscoPrime with Cisco MSE, and ISE


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Information Technology

Lynn University
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jennifer Francis Wilson
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:55 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we include -

- Recent replacement/upgrade strategy (total 3 year, total 5 year, rolling)
- Guest/Visitor management system (ISE, Clearpass, Cloudpath etc.)

Regards,

Jen.


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: 01 April 2016 15:06
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Case, Brandon J]

Purdue University
~36,000 unique users per day from ~55,000 unique devices
~8500 Cisco APs (mix of 3500s, 3700s and 702Ws)
Controller-based deployment with 3 HA pairs of Cisco 8510s
Managed with Cisco Prime 3.0 and home grown tools

-Brandon

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:06 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Schuette, David]

Metropolitan State University of Denver (MSUDenver)
28,000 Clients daily  (almost even split 2.4 to 5 G usage)
Before splash page on our guest WIFI 65,000 Clients daily
474 Aerohive Aps
Standalone Aps or thick
Aerohive hivemanager

Guest access open SSID with limited bandwidth, splash page,  and restricted by 
Firewall
Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John 
> wrote:
Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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John Watters   The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
205-348-3992

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Vikki Cutrone]

Vassar College
4800 clients
Cisco 780 AP's
Controller
Cisco Prime

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Chris Wandell 
wrote:

> Binghamton University
> 2500 ap's
> 17,000 clients
> Controller based
> Cisco Prime
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John 
> wrote:
>
>> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
>> responses but the information is of limited use without other information
>> to go with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will
>> tabulate it and send it back out to the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> How about the following info:
>>
>>
>>
>> School name
>>
>> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
>> guests) during a typical school day
>>
>> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
>>
>> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
>>
>> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
>> etc.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> The University of Alabama
>>
>> 45,000 clients
>>
>> Cisco 5,000 APs
>>
>> Controller based
>>
>> HP Aruba Airwave management
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as
>> we can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have
>> answers to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next
>> WED and try to get the poll sent out next THU?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -jcw
>> [image: UA Logo]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>>
>> Office of Information
>> Technology
>>
>> 205-348-3992
>>
>>
>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
>>
>>
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124 Raymond Ave
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845-437-7231

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

[Jeffrey D. Sessler]

If you look at the innovation that’s happened in the Cisco wireless product 
line over the last eight years, a majority of it is driven from the needs of 
EDU’s. CleanAir – one of the undeniably huge differentiators (and still 
unmatched by others) has residential networking written all over it. 
Location-based Bonjour, AVC (application visibility and control), dynamic 
channel width in 5 GHz, flex radio in wave 2. Pretty much anything related to 
BYoD or IoT – it all starts in EDU.

In other words, if one thinks Cisco isn’t focused on education, then you’re not 
paying attention.

As for market share, I tend to stick to data, and avoid sources that won’t back 
up their claim in writing. I’ve had vendors make all sorts of wild claims over 
the years (always the underdog) and when I ask them to put it in writing, the 
sales folk retreat and that’s the end of it. Dell’Oro is probably one of the 
best sources of data for wireless market share, but I’ve never seen a published 
breakdown for public sector/education.

You’d think, if Aruba or other vendors were eating Cisco’s lunch in EDU that 
they'd be publishing those numbers left and right. When you’re the underdog, 
any data point that you can use to poke the eye of the #1 is gold.

You can get some insight into spaces like K-12 given the e-rate program and 
financial reports. Cisco and Areohive appear to be the ones to beat in the k-12 
space, in particular Areohive’s architecture has been really attractive in the 
K-12 sector, and Cisco’s Meraki which offers similar features has really taken 
flight there too. Meraki’s order run rate for FY2015 was $1 billion (it was 
only $200 million when Cisco purchased them in 2012). I wonder which sector all 
those Meraki sales are happening in…?  On the other hand, Aruba appears to 
derive only about 13% of their revenue from K-12.

That said, does any of the above matter? Like the endless Mac vs PC debates, 
for some it will always come down to something intangible like feelings. Macs 
are better BTW. ;)

Jeff


From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
> 
on behalf of "ppmor...@syr.edu" 
>
Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
>
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 1:46 PM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session 
summary

Good point Bruce. A large campus at an educational institution has many 
challenges that would not be experienced by a corporate environment. I could be 
wrong, but I would also think that campus edu networks tend to be much larger 
in scale both in number of APS and number of devices connected. I have heard 
from other sources as well that Aruba is bigger in the education space, and it 
certainly could be that Cisco is more focused on the needs of the corporate 
market.

Pete Morrissey

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Services)
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:15 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session 
summary

“While Aruba is #2, their market share and installed base is but a tiny 
fraction of Cisco’s,…”

Here is an interesting counterpoint. There is a Wi-Fi vendor straw poll on this 
list. Current results list Aruba at 36% (59 votes) and Cisco at 35% (57 votes). 
To me, at least, that does not look like a distant second.

​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
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From: Jeffrey D. Sessler [mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

Bruce,

so it stands to reason that the conversation here is going to be predominantly 
Cisco. If you are a customer of the #1 vendor you’ll likely be more open to 
discussing the pain points given management is unlikely to be concerned. If you 
have something else, then it may call into question the decision to go that 
direction. Right or wrong, that’s just how it sees to work.

So sure, I don’t see Aruba customers debating their pain points here, but I do 
see Aruba cheerleading – especially from you.

I’m in a fortunate position of having both in my consortium, and the Aruba folk 
have had to deal with a number of show stopping bugs over the years. So It’s 
not unique to Cisco, but the Cisco people seem more 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Chris Wandell]

Binghamton University
2500 ap's
17,000 clients
Controller based
Cisco Prime

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John  wrote:

> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
> responses but the information is of limited use without other information
> to go with it.
>
>
>
> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will
> tabulate it and send it back out to the list.
>
>
>
> How about the following info:
>
>
>
> School name
>
> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
> guests) during a typical school day
>
> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
>
> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
>
> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
> etc.)
>
>
>
>
>
> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>
>
>
> The University of Alabama
>
> 45,000 clients
>
> Cisco 5,000 APs
>
> Controller based
>
> HP Aruba Airwave management
>
>
>
>
>
> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we
> can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers
> to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and
> try to get the poll sent out next THU?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -jcw
> [image: UA Logo]
>
>
>
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>
> Office of Information
> Technology
>
> 205-348-3992
>
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
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>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

['Dan Loop']

Chemeketa Community College uses Ruckus vSCG with 125 r710  and 10 r700
AP's 4800 clients

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Information Technology Dept.
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Salem, Or 97305
503.399.5042
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Todd M. Hall]

As this grows in scope, perhaps someone can setup a detailed survey.

Mississippi State University
26,000 clients
Cisco 2,000 APs
Controller based (8.0, WiSM 2 blades, N+1 HA)
Cisco Prime 3.0 + home grown apps

Guest access handled by home grown tools




On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Watters, John wrote:


Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 09:05:35 -0500
From: "Watters, John" 
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use?REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
  [UA Logo]

John Watters   The University of Alabama
   Office of Information Technology
   205-348-3992


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Sr. Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
Mississippi State University
t...@msstate.edu
662-325-9311 (phone)

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Chris Adams (IT)]

School name

University of North Georgia

 

Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
guests) during a typical school day

Around 26,000 unique clients, depending upon the day

 

Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand

Aerohive - Around 1200 WAPs

 

Whether the APs are standalone or controller based

On-premises HiveManager VM

 

Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
etc.)

Aerohive HiveManager

 

Thanks,

 

Chris Adams

 

Director, Network & Telecom Services

Division of Information Technology

University of North Georgia

E-Mail:   chris.ad...@ung.edu | Office: (706)
867-2891

 

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

 

 

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
responses but the information is of limited use without other information to
go with it.

 

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate
it and send it back out to the list.

 

How about the following info:

 

School name

Rice University

 

Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
guests) during a typical school day

over 10,000 distinct clients per day

 

Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand

Cisco - various, from 1252, 1142, 3502 and 3702, total about 1850 APs

 

Whether the APs are standalone or controller based

Controller based - currently 2 WiSM-2 HA pairs, with AP/Client SSO in 6503's
with Sup-720-3C's.  

(Note, we run an MPLS-L3 VPN based network so we have to have an MPLS PE in
front of the controllers, whether they are external or WiSM's).

 

Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
etc.)

Prime 2.2.0.0.158

 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Daniel Wurst]

Denison Universtiy

4400 Clients

Aruba APs 1047

Mostly AP-225s
Some AP-105s
Some AP-277s

Controller based 2 - 7240s (Master - Master-Standby)

HP Aruba Airwave

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Bill Howell  wrote:

> Colgate University
>
> 4,600 Clients
>
> Aruba AP's - 1,167 total
>
> AP-105 - 924
> AP-124 - 14
> AP-175 - 3
> Ap-205 - 39
> AP-214 - 6
> AP-215 - 42
> AP-224 - 4
> AP-225 - 125
> AP-93H - 10
>
> Controller based – 1 - 7210 Master and 2 - 7240's acting as locals
>
> HP Aruba Airwave
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John 
> wrote:
>
>> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
>> responses but the information is of limited use without other information
>> to go with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will
>> tabulate it and send it back out to the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> How about the following info:
>>
>>
>>
>> School name
>>
>> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
>> guests) during a typical school day
>>
>> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
>>
>> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
>>
>> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
>> etc.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> The University of Alabama
>>
>> 45,000 clients
>>
>> Cisco 5,000 APs
>>
>> Controller based
>>
>> HP Aruba Airwave management
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as
>> we can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have
>> answers to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next
>> WED and try to get the poll sent out next THU?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -jcw
>> [image: UA Logo]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>>
>> Office of Information
>> Technology
>>
>> 205-348-3992
>>
>>
>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Bill Howell
> Senior Network & System Administrator
> Case-Geyer 355J
> Colgate University
> 13 Oak Drive, Hamilton, NY 13346
> Phone 315.228.7478
>
> Information Technology Services
> Getting Help | ITS Blog | Network Services & Operations
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>


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Denison University
Fellows 003B
wur...@denison.edu
740-587-6229

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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Joey Rego]

Lyn University
2000 clients
Cisco 450 Aps
5520's Controller based
CiscoPrime with Cisco MSE, and ISE


[http://lynnda/DesktopAuthorityConsole/Images/Upload/9fcddab6-8cf5-43af-97db-6d11a7f75a10/Lynn.jpg]

Joey Rego
Network Security Administrator
Information Technology

Lynn University
3601 North Military Trail
Boca Raton, FL 33431
T: +1 561-237-7982
re...@lynn.edu
+1 561-237-7000 | lynn.edu | 
give.lynn.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jennifer Francis Wilson
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:55 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we include -

- Recent replacement/upgrade strategy (total 3 year, total 5 year, rolling)
- Guest/Visitor management system (ISE, Clearpass, Cloudpath etc.)

Regards,

Jen.


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: 01 April 2016 15:06
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
  [UA Logo]

John Watters   The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
205-348-3992


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Bill Howell]

Colgate University

4,600 Clients

Aruba AP's - 1,167 total

AP-105 - 924
AP-124 - 14
AP-175 - 3
Ap-205 - 39
AP-214 - 6
AP-215 - 42
AP-224 - 4
AP-225 - 125
AP-93H - 10

Controller based – 1 - 7210 Master and 2 - 7240's acting as locals

HP Aruba Airwave

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John  wrote:

> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
> responses but the information is of limited use without other information
> to go with it.
>
>
>
> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will
> tabulate it and send it back out to the list.
>
>
>
> How about the following info:
>
>
>
> School name
>
> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
> guests) during a typical school day
>
> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
>
> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
>
> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
> etc.)
>
>
>
>
>
> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>
>
>
> The University of Alabama
>
> 45,000 clients
>
> Cisco 5,000 APs
>
> Controller based
>
> HP Aruba Airwave management
>
>
>
>
>
> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we
> can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers
> to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and
> try to get the poll sent out next THU?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -jcw
> [image: UA Logo]
>
>
>
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>
> Office of Information
> Technology
>
> 205-348-3992
>
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
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Senior Network & System Administrator
Case-Geyer 355J
Colgate University
13 Oak Drive, Hamilton, NY 13346
Phone 315.228.7478

Information Technology Services
Getting Help | ITS Blog | Network Services & Operations

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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Jennifer Francis Wilson]

Can we include -

- Recent replacement/upgrade strategy (total 3 year, total 5 year, rolling)
- Guest/Visitor management system (ISE, Clearpass, Cloudpath etc.)

Regards,

Jen.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: 01 April 2016 15:06
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Sullivan, Don]

Samford University
4500 clients
Cisco 1235 APs (702s,2702s,3502s, 1532s)
Controller based
Prime 2.2.0.0.158

Don Sullivan
Network Administrator
205-726-2111

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 9:06 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Edward Ip]

School name
Algonquin College

Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Over 15,000 distinct clients per day

Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Aruba - About 1400 APs total - 75% of AP225 and the rest are AP135 and 105. 
Just got a batch of AP325s getting ready to deploy this summer

Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Controller based - Main Campus consist of 2 masters and 2 locals. 2 other 
campus are configured in Master-local setup.

Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)
Aruba OS 6.4.3 with Airwave. Starting to deploy Clearpass.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 10:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED


Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Rice University

Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
over 10,000 distinct clients per day

Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Cisco - various, from 1252, 1142, 3502 and 3702, total about 1850 APs

Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Controller based - currently 2 WiSM-2 HA pairs, with AP/Client SSO in 6503's 
with Sup-720-3C's.
(Note, we run an MPLS-L3 VPN based network so we have to have an MPLS PE in 
front of the controllers, whether they are external or WiSM's).

Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)
Prime 2.2.0.0.158

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Augustus Pertalion]

Appalachian State University
17000 clients
2450 Aruba access points
Aruba Controllers
Aruba Airwave



-- 
John Pertalion
Network Infrastructure and Control Systems
1116 Peacock Hall
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC 28608
828 262 7909



On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John  wrote:

> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
> responses but the information is of limited use without other information
> to go with it.
>
>
>
> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will
> tabulate it and send it back out to the list.
>
>
>
> How about the following info:
>
>
>
> School name
>
> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
> guests) during a typical school day
>
> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
>
> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
>
> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
> etc.)
>
>
>
>
>
> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>
>
>
> The University of Alabama
>
> 45,000 clients
>
> Cisco 5,000 APs
>
> Controller based
>
> HP Aruba Airwave management
>
>
>
>
>
> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we
> can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers
> to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and
> try to get the poll sent out next THU?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -jcw
> [image: UA Logo]
>
>
>
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>
> Office of Information
> Technology
>
> 205-348-3992
>
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Jeff Fleischman]

Columbia University
~29,500 concurrent clients
Aruba 2,954 APs (mostly AP-134's, some AP-224's, few AP-275’s & AP-324's)
Controller based (8 Aruba 7240’s in production + 2 Aruba 7210’s running early 
release code on an under construction campus)
Aruba Airwave & homegrown scripts

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Watters, John  wrote:
> 
> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of 
> responses but the information is of limited use without other information to 
> go with it.
>  
> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate 
> it and send it back out to the list.
>  
> How about the following info:
>  
> School name
> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
> during a typical school day
> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)
>  
>  
> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>  
> The University of Alabama
> 45,000 clients
> Cisco 5,000 APs
> Controller based
> HP Aruba Airwave management
>  
>  
> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we 
> can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to 
> all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try 
> to get the poll sent out next THU?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -jcw  
> 
>   
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
> Office of Information 
> Technology
> 205-348-3992
>  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[John Heartlein]

Saint Louis University
10,500 clients/day
Cisco 2500 APs
Controller based
Cisco Prime Infrastructure management

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Watters, John  wrote:

> Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
> responses but the information is of limited use without other information
> to go with it.
>
>
>
> If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will
> tabulate it and send it back out to the list.
>
>
>
> How about the following info:
>
>
>
> School name
>
> Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
> guests) during a typical school day
>
> Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
>
> Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
>
> Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
> etc.)
>
>
>
>
>
> For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:
>
>
>
> The University of Alabama
>
> 45,000 clients
>
> Cisco 5,000 APs
>
> Controller based
>
> HP Aruba Airwave management
>
>
>
>
>
> If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we
> can get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers
> to all of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and
> try to get the poll sent out next THU?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -jcw
> [image: UA Logo]
>
>
>
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>
> Office of Information
> Technology
>
> 205-348-3992
>
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
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>
>


-- 
John Heartlein
Infrastructure Operations Manager (Network Operations)
Saint Louis University Information Technology Services
3545 Lindell Blvd
Saint Louis, Missouri 63103
314.977.5025 Office
314.977.3034 Fax

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Danny Eaton]

 

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of
responses but the information is of limited use without other information to
go with it.

 

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate
it and send it back out to the list.

 

How about the following info:

 

School name

Rice University

 

Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at
guests) during a typical school day

over 10,000 distinct clients per day

 

Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand

Cisco - various, from 1252, 1142, 3502 and 3702, total about 1850 APs

 

Whether the APs are standalone or controller based

Controller based - currently 2 WiSM-2 HA pairs, with AP/Client SSO in 6503's
with Sup-720-3C's.  

(Note, we run an MPLS-L3 VPN based network so we have to have an MPLS PE in
front of the controllers, whether they are external or WiSM's).

 

Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none,
etc.)

Prime 2.2.0.0.158

 


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RE: Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

[Forrester, Matthew]

Berry College
~3000 Clients total / day
Aerohive 460 APs (and growing fast with project to restructure deployments in 
all res-hall, acad and admin buildings)
Standalone
Hivemanager on-prem monitoring/management

Thanks,

Matt Forrester
Senior Systems Engineer
Berry College

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:06 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
  [UA Logo]

John Watters   The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Chris Wandell]

Binghamton University 2500 ap's Cisco



On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Todd M. Hall  wrote:

> Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
>> From: Brian L. Cox 
>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> 
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s,
>> ClearPass, Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>>
>> __
>> Brian L Cox
>> Information Technology Services
>> Director of Networking & IT infrastructure
>> University of Nebraska Kearney
>> (308)865-8176
>>
>>
>>
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme
>> Networks.  Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeremy L. Gibbs
>> Sr. Network Engineer
>> Utica College IITS
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada > > wrote:
>> We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and
>> Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>>
>> Norm Mourtada
>> Suffolk University
>> Boston, MA 02108
>>
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Watters, John
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -jcw
>> [UA Logo]
>>
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>>Office of Information
>> Technology
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> --
> Todd M. Hall
> Sr. Network Analyst
> Information Technology Services
> Mississippi State University
> t...@msstate.edu
> 662-325-9311 (phone)
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Meraki High Density

[Samuel Clements]

Interestingly enough, Meraki just published a High Density Deployment Guide
that could be of interest on the subject. :)
https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/WiFi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/High_Density_Wi-Fi_Deployment_Guide
  -Sam

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Rick.Decaro  wrote:

> Anyone out there using Cisco Meraki having good luck with high density
> areas like classrooms or lecture halls?If so, could you share your
> setup in those areas?
>
>
>
> *Rick DeCaro*
> Director, Information Technology | Logan University
> 1851 Schoettler Road | Chesterfield, MO 63017
> Phone: (636) 230-1911 | www.logan.edu
>
>
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Becker, Jason]

Washington University in St. Louis is Cisco with around 7000 WAPs.



-- 
Thanks,

Jason Becker
Network Systems Engineer
Washington University in St. Louis
jbec...@wustl.edu
314-935-5006








On 4/1/16, 8:10 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on 
behalf of Mike Atkins"  wrote:

>Notre Dame is mostly Cisco with 2600 WAPs and now venturing into Aruba
>territory with just over 100 WAPs in one facility.  We are listening to
>everyone on the list very closely as new construction and remodeling will
>cause us to double AP count over the next two years (football stadium is
>~1000.)  We do not have a dedicated WiFi engineer at this point so we are
>very interested in deployment and manageability concerns/issues we hear from
>the group.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Mike Atkins
>Network Engineer
>Office of Information Technology
>University of Notre Dame
>Phone: 574-631-7210
>
>
>   .__o
>   - _-\_<,
>   ---  (*)/'(*)
>-Original Message-
>From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Hulko
>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 8:59 AM
>To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>
>The University of Western Ontario, Canada…   Aruba  with just shy of 4k APs
>
>-Mike
>
>
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Case, Brandon J  wrote:
>>
>> Purdue is an all-Cisco shop with about 8500 APs
>>
>> -Brandon
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
>> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:44 AM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.
>>
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
>>> From: Brian L. Cox 
>>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>>>
>>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>>
>>> We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s,
>>> ClearPass, Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>>>
>>> __
>>> Brian L Cox
>>> Information Technology Services
>>> Director of Networking & IT infrastructure University of Nebraska
>>> Kearney
>>> (308)865-8176
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
>>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>>
>>> I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme
>>> Networks.  Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jeremy L. Gibbs
>>> Sr. Network Engineer
>>> Utica College IITS
>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada
>>> > wrote:
>>> We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and
>>> Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>>>
>>> Norm Mourtada
>>> Suffolk University
>>> Boston, MA 02108
>>>
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> RV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Watters, John
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
>>> To:
>>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> USE.EDU>
>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>>
>>> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -jcw
>>> [UA Logo]
>>>
>>> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>>>   Office of Information
>>> Technology
>>>
>>> 205-348-3992
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
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>> Sr. Network Analyst
>> Information Technology Services
>> Mississippi State University
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>> 662-325-9311 (phone)
>>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Mike Atkins]

Notre Dame is mostly Cisco with 2600 WAPs and now venturing into Aruba
territory with just over 100 WAPs in one facility.  We are listening to
everyone on the list very closely as new construction and remodeling will
cause us to double AP count over the next two years (football stadium is
~1000.)  We do not have a dedicated WiFi engineer at this point so we are
very interested in deployment and manageability concerns/issues we hear from
the group.






Mike Atkins
Network Engineer
Office of Information Technology
University of Notre Dame
Phone: 574-631-7210


   .__o
   - _-\_<,
   ---  (*)/'(*)
-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Hulko
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 8:59 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

The University of Western Ontario, Canada…   Aruba  with just shy of 4k APs

-Mike


> On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Case, Brandon J  wrote:
>
> Purdue is an all-Cisco shop with about 8500 APs
>
> -Brandon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:44 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>
> Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
>> From: Brian L. Cox 
>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>>
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s,
>> ClearPass, Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>>
>> __
>> Brian L Cox
>> Information Technology Services
>> Director of Networking & IT infrastructure University of Nebraska
>> Kearney
>> (308)865-8176
>>
>>
>>
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme
>> Networks.  Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeremy L. Gibbs
>> Sr. Network Engineer
>> Utica College IITS
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada
>> > wrote:
>> We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and
>> Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>>
>> Norm Mourtada
>> Suffolk University
>> Boston, MA 02108
>>
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> RV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Watters, John
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
>> To:
>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> USE.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>
>> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -jcw
>> [UA Logo]
>>
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>> Technology
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Bradley Williams]

Clemson has about 2100 Cisco APs.  We are currently migrating our dorms to  
Meru(Fortinet) APs so the Cisco number will drop a few hundred in the end.  
We'll be approaching 1000 Meru APs in the dorms shortly.

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Case, Brandon J
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:52 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

Purdue is an all-Cisco shop with about 8500 APs

-Brandon

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:44 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:

> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
> From: Brian L. Cox 
> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> 
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
> 
> We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s, 
> ClearPass, Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>
> __
> Brian L Cox
> Information Technology Services
> Director of Networking & IT infrastructure University of Nebraska 
> Kearney
> (308)865-8176
>
>
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>
> I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme Networks.  
> Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
>
>
> --
>
> Jeremy L. Gibbs
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Utica College IITS
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada 
> > wrote:
> We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and 
> Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>
> Norm Mourtada
> Suffolk University
> Boston, MA 02108
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU V.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Watters, John
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
> To: 
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU SE.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>
> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>
>
>
>
> -jcw  
> [UA Logo]
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Tufts, Mark]

Stonehill College migrating from Juniper to Aruba 585 APs

Mark

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Barrett, Bruce
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:14 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

The Community College of Rhode Island is Cisco with 500 APs ( wave 2 capable).

Bruce

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:27 PM, "David LaPorte"  wrote:

> MIT is Cisco as well, a shade under 6k APs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/31/16, 6:34 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> on behalf of Patrick McEvilly"  of patrick_mcevi...@harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Harvard is a Cisco shop with about 6500 APs.
>> 
>> Patrick McEvilly
>> Harvard University
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/31/16 4:42 PM, Sullivan, Ryan wrote:
>>> Same for UCSD - Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>>> 
>>> Ryan Sullivan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
>>> on behalf of Watters, John [john.watt...@ua.edu]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:44 AM
>>> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>>> 
>>> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -jcw
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>>> 
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>>>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Michael Hulko]

The University of Western Ontario, Canada…   Aruba  with just shy of 4k APs

-Mike


> On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Case, Brandon J  wrote:
> 
> Purdue is an all-Cisco shop with about 8500 APs
> 
> -Brandon
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:44 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
> 
> Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.
> 
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:
> 
>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
>> From: Brian L. Cox 
>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>>
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>> 
>> We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s, 
>> ClearPass, Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>> 
>> __
>> Brian L Cox
>> Information Technology Services
>> Director of Networking & IT infrastructure
>> University of Nebraska Kearney
>> (308)865-8176
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>> 
>> I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme Networks.  
>> Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jeremy L. Gibbs
>> Sr. Network Engineer
>> Utica College IITS
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada 
>> > wrote:
>> We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and 
>> Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>> 
>> Norm Mourtada
>> Suffolk University
>> Boston, MA 02108
>> 
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
>>  On Behalf Of Watters, John
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
>> To: 
>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>> 
>> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -jcw 
>>  [UA Logo]
>> 
>> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>>   Office of Information 
>> Technology
>>   205-348-3992
>> 
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> Mississippi State University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Philippe Hanset]

Our institution has millions of APs, all brands and bugs represented. Thank you 
all.

Philippe
www.edruoam.us

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Chuck Enfield  wrote:
> 
> Penn State, about 10,000 Aruba APs.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of River R. Perry
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:55 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
> 
> St. Edwards University in Austin, Texas uses an Extreme solution roughly
> 600 APs 
> 
> River Rock
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Reyes, Esteban 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Lake Forest College also uses Cisco, about 400 APs (wave 2 capable as
> well)
>> 
>> Esteban
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Barrett, Bruce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Community College of Rhode Island is Cisco with 500 APs ( wave 2
> capable).
>>> 
>>> Bruce
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:27 PM, "David LaPorte"  wrote:
 
 MIT is Cisco as well, a shade under 6k APs.
 
 
 
 
> On 3/31/16, 6:34 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group
> Listserv on behalf of Patrick McEvilly"
>  patrick_mcevi...@harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
> Harvard is a Cisco shop with about 6500 APs.
> 
> Patrick McEvilly
> Harvard University
> 
> 
>> On 3/31/16 4:42 PM, Sullivan, Ryan wrote:
>> Same for UCSD - Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>> 
>> Ryan Sullivan
>> 
>> 
> --
> --
>> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
>> on behalf of Watters, John [john.watt...@ua.edu]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:44 AM
>> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>> 
>> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -jcw
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Case, Brandon J]

Purdue is an all-Cisco shop with about 8500 APs

-Brandon

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:44 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:

> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
> From: Brian L. Cox 
> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> 
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
> 
> We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s, 
> ClearPass, Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>
> __
> Brian L Cox
> Information Technology Services
> Director of Networking & IT infrastructure
> University of Nebraska Kearney
> (308)865-8176
>
>
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>
> I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme Networks.  
> Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.
>
>
> --
>
> Jeremy L. Gibbs
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Utica College IITS
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada 
> > wrote:
> We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and 
> Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.
>
> Norm Mourtada
> Suffolk University
> Boston, MA 02108
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
>  On Behalf Of Watters, John
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
> To: 
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
>
> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
>
>
>
>
> -jcw  
> [UA Logo]
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Todd M. Hall]

Mississippi State is Cisco with 2k APs.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Brian L. Cox wrote:


Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:17:10 -0500
From: Brian L. Cox 
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

We are identical to Suffolk University ?.just under 1000 Aruba AP?s, ClearPass, 
Airwave and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.

__
Brian L Cox
Information Technology Services
Director of Networking & IT infrastructure
University of Nebraska Kearney
(308)865-8176



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

I am sort of surprised at the low number of people using Extreme Networks.  
Then again, maybe I shouldn't be.


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Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Norman Mourtada 
> wrote:
We are all Aruba for wireless just under a 1000 APs, with Clearpass and Airwave 
and Extreme/Enterasys for wired.

Norm Mourtada
Suffolk University
Boston, MA 02108

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:44 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.




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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Chuck Enfield]

Penn State, about 10,000 Aruba APs.

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of River R. Perry
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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

St. Edwards University in Austin, Texas uses an Extreme solution roughly
600 APs 

River Rock

> On Mar 31, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Reyes, Esteban 
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> Lake Forest College also uses Cisco, about 400 APs (wave 2 capable as
well)
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> Esteban
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>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Barrett, Bruce  wrote:
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>> The Community College of Rhode Island is Cisco with 500 APs ( wave 2
capable).
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>> Bruce
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:27 PM, "David LaPorte"  wrote:
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>>> MIT is Cisco as well, a shade under 6k APs.
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>>> 
 On 3/31/16, 6:34 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group
Listserv on behalf of Patrick McEvilly"
 wrote:
 
 Harvard is a Cisco shop with about 6500 APs.
 
 Patrick McEvilly
 Harvard University
 
 
> On 3/31/16 4:42 PM, Sullivan, Ryan wrote:
> Same for UCSD - Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
> 
> Ryan Sullivan
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> Cisco -- just under 6K APs right now.
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RE: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)]

I know that Cisco used to promote their wireless features that were mostly 
contained in their driver extensions available mostly on Enterprise & high end 
laptops. Those are not the computers many students purchase in Higher Ed.

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Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

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From: Thomas Carter [mailto:tcar...@austincollege.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

I wonder if Cisco is propped up by the corporate enterprise market. I came from 
a company using Cisco wired switches and had a handful of Cisco wireless APs 
around (conference rooms, etc). The corporate wireless environment is, as you 
can imagine, vastly different from the higher ed wireless environment.

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College

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summary

“While Aruba is #2, their market share and installed base is but a tiny 
fraction of Cisco’s,…”

Here is an interesting counterpoint. There is a Wi-Fi vendor straw poll on this 
list. Current results list Aruba at 36% (59 votes) and Cisco at 35% (57 votes). 
To me, at least, that does not look like a distant second.

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Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

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From: Jeffrey D. Sessler [mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

Bruce,

so it stands to reason that the conversation here is going to be predominantly 
Cisco. If you are a customer of the #1 vendor you’ll likely be more open to 
discussing the pain points given management is unlikely to be concerned. If you 
have something else, then it may call into question the decision to go that 
direction. Right or wrong, that’s just how it sees to work.

So sure, I don’t see Aruba customers debating their pain points here, but I do 
see Aruba cheerleading – especially from you.

I’m in a fortunate position of having both in my consortium, and the Aruba folk 
have had to deal with a number of show stopping bugs over the years. So It’s 
not unique to Cisco, but the Cisco people seem more open to sharing – which to 
me is a good thing.

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
> 
on behalf of "bosbo...@liberty.edu" 
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Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
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Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 4:35 AM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session 
summary

Brian,

Thank you for offending Lee.

This is a WLAN list, not a *Cisco* WLAN list.

Although there are many Aruba customers here, you do not see us debating the 
latest bugs, etc.  Perhaps that is a compliment to Aruba’s Engineering & TAC 
Support teams.

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Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

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From: Brian Helman [mailto:bhel...@salemstate.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:46 PM
Subject: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

(cross-posted to NETMAN group)

As promised, here is a summary of the combined Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session from 
the NERCOMP Conference last week.  In preparation for these sessions, I review 
the hot topics (based purely on number of comments) from the listservs that 
occurred over the previous year.  I keep a running PowerPoint on these topics 
(1 slide per year).  I’m happy to post that PowerPoint, if there is a good 
place to do it.   I believe DropBox has a bandwidth cap, so I’d prefer not to 
distribute that way.   Also, I tend to avoid vendor-specific topics .. so you 
won’t see the billions of discussions on Cisco WAPs (sorry Lee).

This year I tried to mix up the conversation a bit and gave a quick (10 minute) 
demonstration of the JDSU OLP-820p fiber scope/power meter.   In the session I 
said I thought it was around $7,000 (give or take).  I see it on Amazon for 
$5,132.  While I don’t want to recommend specific products, I would recommend 
acquiring this