RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Yahya M. Jaber]

If there is no clear decision, at least have the cabling infrastructure ready.

Yahya Jaber.
Sr. Wireless Engineer
IT Network & Communications – Engineering
Building 14, Level 3, Rm 308-WS07
KAUST 23955-6900 Thuwal, KSA

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 19:34
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Cisco 8821 Alternatives

[Jason Cook]

Howdy,

I'm watching the signal bar on our Cisco 8821 Wifi VOIP phones bounce up and 
down like they have signal  issues and are changing AP's. It appears cosmetic 
as looking at the actual signal on the phone, and data on the controller. It's 
stable. No issues with phone calls either.  In general we haven't had too many 
issues, but I know plenty of issues have been experienced with these.

So it got me thinking, is anyone using 3rd Party alternatives ? Spectralink 
look pretty good, but the $$ are right up there.

Regards

Jason

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Information Technology and Digital Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Mike Atkins]

Mary,

Our goal is to cover occupied spaces indoors with a standard density
deployment.  We deploy high density for large auditoriums/classrooms that
have a primary or significant use by the campus population.  We lean on the
building/venue management and department heads for “specialty” Wi-Fi needed
in large stadiums/arenas/theaters where the majority of occupants are
guests here for a ticketed event.  In those cases we ask the
venue/department to help fund the installation/maintenance because the cost
that is above our typical offering.  Sometimes this works, sometimes it
does not.



Athletics covers some of the cost for high density guest Wi-Fi in areas
like basketball and football but choose not to cover high density for
baseball, soccer, and Lacrosse.  Hockey is likely to be the next specialty
guest Wi-Fi since we have been talking about it for a long time.  But
again, this would be contingent on athletics funding a portion of the
installation/maintenance.



Our performing arts theatre was due for wireless upgrades this year.  That
venue choose to go with just the standard campus density deployment for the
office and work spaces while turning down high density “specialty” Wi-Fi in
the large auditoriums.  History shows for this particular venue we end up
setting up temporary Wi-Fi once a year.  It is hard to fault them on
choosing to not put extra money into large venue high density deployment
when their customers (events) only demand “usable” Wi-Fi once a year.  In
this case the temporary setup is usually a couple APs and a dedicated
radio/SSID.



Another good example my co-worker uses is the dining halls.  We cover the
dining hall Wi-Fi upgrades with maintenance/upgrade funds because these are
campus users.  In the past the dining hall wanted little or no Wi-Fi so
students would eat and get out.  That has slowly changed but it is a good
example that we have to keep the big picture in perspective and protect our
customers from themselves.











*Mike Atkins *

Network Engineer

Office of Information Technology

University of Notre Dame



*From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Bull, Mary
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have



Hello all,



I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.



Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?



Mary Bull

William and Mary

757-221-2491

mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Philippe Hanset]

I designed a bunch of auditorium and theaters’  Wi-Fi during my days at Univ. 
of TN.

If you do it, do it well, or don't do it at all. Otherwise it will cost you in 
support/complaints/reputation.

And get with the sound system people of those large venues before you lay your 
spectrum!


Philippe

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> On Oct 22, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:
> 
> Add one counter-opinion. I tend to believe you **WILL** want coverage here, 
> and probably very soon; it's just what modern students expect.  But at the 
> same time, this can be a very costly project just because "someone will need 
> it someday".
> 
> **DO** add the switching and network drops to support the APs you'll need to 
> provide coverage. That part will be fairly cheap now, but grossly more 
> expensive afterwards. And **DO** have a bid in front of project planners to 
> handle the AP purchase, licensing, and installation. It's likely they'll make 
> the jump...
> 
> ... but let those stakeholders make the decision.
> 
> We had a project recently where we raised some funds to install new bleachers 
> and do a cosmetic refresh (paint and carpet) in a gym. I suggested that while 
> the old bleachers were gone was a good time to improve wifi support in the 
> building and gave a cost estimate to the project planners. They opted to do 
> the wifi updates, but it was their decision.
> 
> 
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603
> jcoeho...@york.edu 
> 
> Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical 
> assistance.
> 
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered 
> education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and 
> society
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 1:36 PM Johnson, Christopher  > wrote:
> Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about 
> the “student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard a 
> girl saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it was 
> because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an 
> intersection….
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Johnson
> 
> Wireless Network Engineer
> 
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
> 
> Illinois State University
> 
> (309) 438-8444
> 
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook 
>  and Twitter 
> 
> From: Johnson, Christopher 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM
> To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
>  >
> Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
> 
>  
> 
> Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into.
> 
>  
> 
> We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in 
> the concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the 
> concert hall AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount of 
> coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are used 
> for more that just theatre/performances – sometimes for classes and others 
> for important presentations/presenters. We were asked by a couple individuals 
> “can we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus upgrade. We did add 
> several additional APs in the atrium area for where students study and the 
> back-stage areas for performers when taking their breaks. It was ultimately 
> decided no additional density due to cost (new work in old work).
> 
>  
> 
> To the point about “distractions during performances and 
> presentations/“people would be using devices instead of watching the 
> performances” -> we got complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – 
> and one of the IT folks brought up a very good and interesting point “I think 
> several around me were more distracted by continual efforts to get a good 
> connection because that is what the expectation is these days.  And the rest 
> were just flipped over to cell probably without knowing it.”
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Johnson
> 
> Wireless Network Engineer
> 
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
> 
> Illinois State University
> 
> (309) 438-8444
> 
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook 
>  and Twitter 
> 
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
>  > On Behalf Of Manon Lessard
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
> 
>  
> 
> [This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to 
> 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Coehoorn, Joel]

Add one counter-opinion. I tend to believe you **WILL** want coverage here,
and probably very soon; it's just what modern students expect.  But at the
same time, this can be a very costly project just because "someone will
need it someday".

**DO** add the switching and network drops to support the APs you'll need
to provide coverage. That part will be fairly cheap now, but grossly more
expensive afterwards. And **DO** have a bid in front of project planners to
handle the AP purchase, licensing, and installation. It's likely they'll
make the jump...

... but let those stakeholders make the decision.

We had a project recently where we raised some funds to install new
bleachers and do a cosmetic refresh (paint and carpet) in a gym. I
suggested that while the old bleachers were gone was a good time to improve
wifi support in the building and gave a cost estimate to the project
planners. They opted to do the wifi updates, but it was their decision.

Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *

*Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
assistance.*


The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God, family, and society


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 1:36 PM Johnson, Christopher 
wrote:

> Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about
> the “student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard
> a girl saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it
> was because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an
> intersection….
>
>
>
> *Christopher Johnson*
>
> Wireless Network Engineer
>
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
>
> Illinois State University
>
> (309) 438-8444
>
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook
>  and Twitter
> 
>
> *From:* Johnson, Christopher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM
> *To:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject:* RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
>
>
>
> Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into.
>
>
>
> We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in
> the concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the
> concert hall AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount
> of coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are
> used for more that just theatre/performances – *sometimes for classes and
> others for important presentations/presenters*. We were asked by a couple
> individuals “can we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus
> upgrade. *We did add several additional APs in the atrium area for where
> students study and the back-stage areas for performers when taking their
> breaks*. It was ultimately decided no additional density due to cost (new
> work in old work).
>
>
>
> To the point about “distractions during performances and presentations/“people
> would be using devices instead of watching the performances” -> we got
> complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – and one of the IT folks
> brought up a very good and interesting point *“I think several around me
> were more distracted by continual efforts to get a good connection because
> that is what the expectation is these days.  And the rest were just flipped
> over to cell probably without knowing it.”*
>
>
>
> *Christopher Johnson*
>
> Wireless Network Engineer
>
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
>
> Illinois State University
>
> (309) 438-8444
>
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook
>  and Twitter
> 
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Manon Lessard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
>
>
>
> *[This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to
> ab...@ilstu.edu ] *
>
> Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online
> learning platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the
> cheap”, but there’s always the possibility that some are going to be used
> for convocation ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their
> parents who want to share over social media (else, beware of Spotted:Your
> Uni)
>
>
>
> *Manon Lessard*
> Technicienne en développement de systèmes
>
> CCNP, CWNE #275, ESCE Design
>
> Direction des technologies de l'information
>
> Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
> 1055, avenue du Séminaire
> Bureau 0403
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>
> G1V 0A6, Canada
>
> 418 656-2131, poste 412853
> 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Johnson, Christopher]

Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about the 
“student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard a girl 
saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it was 
because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an 
intersection….

Christopher Johnson
Wireless Network Engineer
AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
Illinois State University
(309) 438-8444
Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on 
Facebook and 
Twitter
From: Johnson, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM
To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into.

We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in the 
concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the concert hall 
AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount of 
coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are used 
for more that just theatre/performances – sometimes for classes and others for 
important presentations/presenters. We were asked by a couple individuals “can 
we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus upgrade. We did add several 
additional APs in the atrium area for where students study and the back-stage 
areas for performers when taking their breaks. It was ultimately decided no 
additional density due to cost (new work in old work).

To the point about “distractions during performances and presentations/“people 
would be using devices instead of watching the performances” -> we got 
complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – and one of the IT folks 
brought up a very good and interesting point “I think several around me were 
more distracted by continual efforts to get a good connection because that is 
what the expectation is these days.  And the rest were just flipped over to 
cell probably without knowing it.”

Christopher Johnson
Wireless Network Engineer
AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
Illinois State University
(309) 438-8444
Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on 
Facebook and 
Twitter
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Manon Lessard
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to 
ab...@ilstu.edu]
Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online learning 
platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the cheap”, but 
there’s always the possibility that some are going to be used for convocation 
ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their parents who want to 
share over social media (else, beware of Spotted:Your Uni)

Manon Lessard
Technicienne en développement de systèmes
CCNP, CWNE #275, ESCE Design
Direction des technologies de l'information
Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
1055, avenue du Séminaire
Bureau 0403
Université Laval, Québec (Québec)
G1V 0A6, Canada
418 656-2131, poste 412853
Télécopieur : 418 656-7305
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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Tomo mailto:t...@london.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 1:28 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

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doute, contactez l’équipe de soutien informatique de votre unité ou 
hameconn...@ulaval.ca.


I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to 
take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media.
Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities.

Install it!



Tomo | Infrastructure Architect | Information Technology – Operations and 
Assurance
London Business School | Regent's Park | London NW1 4SA | 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Manon Lessard]

Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online learning platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the cheap”, but there’s always the
 possibility that some are going to be used for convocation ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their parents who want to share over social media (else, beware of Spotted:Your Uni)
 





Manon Lessard
Technicienne en développement de systèmes 
CCNP, CWNE #275, ESCE Design
Direction des technologies de l'information




Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
1055, avenue du Séminaire
Bureau 0403
Université Laval, Québec (Québec)
G1V 0A6, Canada


418 656-2131, poste 412853
Télécopieur : 418 656-7305
manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca
www.dti.ulaval.ca




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Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have


 


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I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media.
Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities.
 
Install it!
 


 

 




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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
Sent: 22 October 2019 18:24
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have


 
Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people
 would be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue 
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
www.austincollege.edu
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
On Behalf Of Dan Lauing
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:14 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
 

I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, it only comes back to bite me in the rear.

 


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason  wrote:




I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people from using it, but I’d bet there will be
 something that will require it sooner rather than later.
 

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

 


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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have


 



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Hello all,
 
I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus.
 We have a new arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full connectivity
 for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
 changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
 
Has anyone dealt with this on their 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Tomo]

I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to 
take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media.
Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities.

Install it!



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Assurance
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
Sent: 22 October 2019 18:24
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with 
our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people would 
be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used 
for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
www.austincollege.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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On Behalf Of Dan Lauing
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:14 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, 
it only comes back to bite me in the rear.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason 
mailto:bened...@stevenscollege.edu>> wrote:
I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Thomas Carter]

Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with 
our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people would 
be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used 
for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
www.austincollege.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Dan Lauing
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:14 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, 
it only comes back to bite me in the rear.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason 
mailto:bened...@stevenscollege.edu>> wrote:
I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Benedick, Jason]

I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

This email originated from outside of Thaddeus Stevens College. Do not click 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content 
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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Steve Fletty]

Several years ago, the University of Minnesota gutted and redid the big
~3000 seat auditorium on the Twin Cities campus, Northrop Memorial
Auditorium. One of the driving factors to put WiFi in the auditorium space
came from consultants, who emphasized the importance of social media. We
had to hide the APs of course.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bull, Mary  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
> arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
> direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
> The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
> did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
> on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
> is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
> since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
> changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
> I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
> they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
>
>
>
> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>
>
>
> Mary Bull
>
> William and Mary
>
> 757-221-2491
>
> mb...@wm.edu
>
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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Hales, David]

We installed wireless in our big auditorium on campus several years ago because 
it gets used for the occasional event where wireless is useful.  We have 
recruiting and large scale campus visit events in there and sometimes have 
participants fill out online forms and applications during sessions in there.

While it might not seem that it would be used in there, someone will want it 
someday.  If you’re building and have the opportunity to put it in, do it.

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have


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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Christopher H Ressel]

We just had a new arts building come online in a very similar scenario. One of 
the biggest pains for us was dealing with the acoustic, aesthetic, and monetary 
constraints of getting wireless into some of the acoustically engineered 
concert halls. Our campus standard is for wireless coverage in all spaces.



[University of Nevada, Reno]

Chris Ressel
Senior Network Engineer
Office of Information Technology
1664 N. Virginia St.
Mailstop 430

work-phone: 7756826034
email: cres...@unr.edu
website: https://oit.unr.edu


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Mallon, Jason" 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 9:48 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

As of right now we are only doing wireless backstage and in the ticketing 
booths.  There is some bleed over into the audience section, but we are not 
trying to cover an entire theater.  Haven’t been asked to do this as of yet.  
All of our theaters have been in place for years and getting this done now 
would be a nightmare.  If a new theater was coming up I would probably do the 
design work and get the pipes to the correct places so that we would have the 
option to do something in the future.

Thanks,
Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III
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OIT
The University of Alabama
jemal...@ua.edu
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Hunter Fuller]

There was never any question, we have always offered wireless in these
locations. However, none of ours are old enough for the word
"historic" to be involved, so we have it pretty easy.

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bull, Mary  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
> complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
> from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
> main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have 
> full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that 
> were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
> building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
> harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
> years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
> really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
> attend a show or concert.
>
>
>
> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>
>
>
> Mary Bull
>
> William and Mary
>
> 757-221-2491
>
> mb...@wm.edu
>
> **
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Mallon, Jason]

As of right now we are only doing wireless backstage and in the ticketing 
booths.  There is some bleed over into the audience section, but we are not 
trying to cover an entire theater.  Haven’t been asked to do this as of yet.  
All of our theaters have been in place for years and getting this done now 
would be a nightmare.  If a new theater was coming up I would probably do the 
design work and get the pipes to the correct places so that we would have the 
option to do something in the future.

Thanks,
Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III
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OIT
The University of Alabama
jemal...@ua.edu
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Bull, Mary" 
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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RE: [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Michael Cole]

On our campus wireless is always expected every where, whether in theater 
halls, parking lots, classrooms or outside walking between buildings.  The 
students expectation at times is unrealistic, when it gets to off campus 
apartments in the neighborhood.  Put it in while you’re doing the planning and 
it will be there for you when you need it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Lee H Badman]

Put it in while you can. Better to have and not need versus the opposite. Never 
know when some event will need it.

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Bull, Mary]

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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