Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)

2010-05-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Interesting So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the Cellular company also be held liable? Could they have mounted their cabling a different way that would have better disappated heat or isolated their cabling from the tower, knowing that one day it might need welding

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)

2010-05-16 Thread Josh Luthman
What actually caught on fire from the welder? If it was unsafe or unfit conditions, the welder should not have proceeded. The cause is the actions of the welder. On 5/16/10, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Interesting So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)

2010-05-16 Thread Jack Unger
Tom, You raise an interesting and valid question about whether a tower (or tank) "Best Practices" should be followed by all cellular and WISP operators. Personally, I have to ask if perhaps this might just have been an "Act of Zod"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Zod jack Tom

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)

2010-05-16 Thread Justin Wilson
This is why companies like American Tower, Spectrasite, and others have always required a structural engineering study. The engineers sign off on it, and you are supposed to install based up that plan. Sucks, but is a way of CYA. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-16 Thread Mark Nash
These problems happen throughout the day, not just during their maintenance window. They have made us give them extensive information about the problem we and our customers have been having. I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider. Anyone

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread RickG
Oh, I wasnt the black woman but I'm glad you two had a good time :) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Rick, was good to hang with you today.  Very cool.  I never imagined you as a short black woman...  But it's all good. Go figure, Rick being

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 05/16/2010 07:08 PM, RickG wrote: I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in it! I got it back up running by dropping temporary

[WISPA] and you think we have it bad

2010-05-16 Thread Blake Bowers
http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm Entire tower crew killed Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread RickG
It was grounded. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: I've had similar experiences with an omni which was NOT DC grounded.  I learned my lesson.  Did you? Friendly Regards, Mike  -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread RickG
Ya, the pop (pun intended:) is growing so hopefully it gets sectors soon! On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net wrote: On 05/16/2010 07:08 PM, RickG wrote: I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took a direct hit. Picture of

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread Robert West
What? Then who was it I spent the day with???!!! She said her name was Rickesha. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread Robert West
That looks like something I would beat my kids with. Well, in my mind anyhow. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread Robert West
If they could make them look like that new then maybe the lightning could be fooled to leave it alone. could that work? - Original Message - From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:03 PM Subject: Re:

[WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute

2010-05-16 Thread Robert West
I've been reading some of the disputes to the Broadband Grants and I see Time Warner sending the same form letter dispute to every area that they might touch for even a fraction. Is this the M.O. of these large telecoms? Even if they don't provide service to the entire area, and never will,

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread D. Ryan Spott
It wasn't a she... and it was all night baby :) ryan On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: What? Then who was it I spent the day with???!!! She said her name was Rickesha. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To:

Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
You can't use a fiberglass omni at the top of a tower and expect it to survive a strike unless it has a copper groundrod built inside of it protruding from the top in which it was designed to take a strike. Learned this from various HAM radio operators. Only 2.4ghz omni I know of that has a metal

Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-16 Thread Anthony
FYI, I also use everyone.net and we are not experiencing this issue. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. Mark Nash wrote: These problems happen throughout the day, not just during their maintenance window. They have made us give them extensive information about the problem we and our customers