Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-09 Thread Glenn Kelley
Here is a simple solution for UBNT Reboots 

Turn on the SSH Port - 
then simply assign a username/password to the unit (which you technically 
already have of course since you have an admin user) 
Then run a script to go out and poll systems w/ the command reboot 

pretty simple 


reboot -y 

a simple linux box running a shell command on cron can reset tons of radios for 
you :-)


On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Robert West wrote:

 I hear ya, my brother.  Had 2 Bullet M5’s “Stop” this week.  Had to go out to 
 do a simple reboot.  The magic reboot fixed all.  I wish the UBNT firmware 
 had a reboot at “X” day or time function.  I’d certainly use it.
  
 Me-
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
  
 We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and 
 other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang 
 things just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the 
 unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.   
  
 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
  
 You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that 
 is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!
 
 On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
 fun in all of that?
 
 I desire a product that demands constant attention.
 
 -Albert
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
 
 Mikrotik :)
 
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 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
 
  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-09 Thread Ralph
Why have that, when it can reboot on loss of a ping?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:48 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

I hear ya, my brother.  Had 2 Bullet M5’s “Stop” this week.  Had to go out
to do a simple reboot.  The magic reboot fixed all.  I wish the UBNT
firmware had a reboot at “X” day or time function.  I’d certainly use it.

 

Me-

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and
other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang
things just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the
unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.

 

---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
http://www.linktechs.net/ 
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com  Training -
Author of  http://www.routerosbook.com/ Learn RouterOS 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

Mikrotik :)

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and 
other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang things 
just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or 
replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.

 

---
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Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
http://www.linktechs.net/ 
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com  - 
Author of Learn RouterOS http://www.routerosbook.com/  

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that 
is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:

But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert




-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

Mikrotik :)

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
H.which models .?  What version of firmware. ?
We have been using the M gear...and have not seen any lockups
Fwiw...the also have watchdog built in for reboots...


Faisal

On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:

 We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and 
 other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang 
 things just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the 
 unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.   
 
  
 
 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
 
  
 
 You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that 
 is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!
 
 On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 
 But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
 fun in all of that?
 
 I desire a product that demands constant attention.
 
 -Albert
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
 
 Mikrotik :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
 
  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread Mike Hammett
  I don't believe there are ANY certified Mikrotik 5.4 GHz solutions.  I 
certainly welcome being corrected on this.

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On 8/7/2010 10:03 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
 Mikrotik :)

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread Ralph
Mike-
I think no one has mentioned Alvarion 5.4 PtP yet. We put some of them up a
couple of years ago.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

  I don't believe there are ANY certified Mikrotik 5.4 GHz solutions.  I 
certainly welcome being corrected on this.

-
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On 8/7/2010 10:03 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
 Mikrotik :)

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread RickG
I've had great luck with Pico units for short distances.

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote:

  We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks
 and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang
 things just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the
 unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.



 *---
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 **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
 *LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com - 
 Author
 of Learn RouterOS http://www.routerosbook.com/ *



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *RickG
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM

 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP



 You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
 that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

 On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
 fun in all of that?

 I desire a product that demands constant attention.

 -Albert




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 Mikrotik :)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

 --


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread Robert West
I hear ya, my brother.  Had 2 Bullet M5’s “Stop” this week.  Had to go out
to do a simple reboot.  The magic reboot fixed all.  I wish the UBNT
firmware had a reboot at “X” day or time function.  I’d certainly use it.

 

Me-

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and
other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang
things just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the
unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.

 

---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
http://www.linktechs.net/ 
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com  -
Author of  http://www.routerosbook.com/ Learn RouterOS 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

Mikrotik :)

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Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-08 Thread Robert West
I’ve had various lockups with them.  “Mysterious” lockups.  They no longer 
respond will not pass traffic.  The power light and network light are all lit 
but no RSSI lights are lit.  All running current firmware, not BETA.  After 
reboot, all good.

 

No idea what causes it.  Had issues with the rockets after doing connfigs but 
that issue went away with a firmware upgrade.

 

Joe-

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

 

H.which models .?  What version of firmware. ?

We have been using the M gear...and have not seen any lockups

Fwiw...the also have watchdog built in for reboots...



Faisal


On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:

We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and 
other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links.  The issues we are finding is that the dang things 
just stop.  The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or 
replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution.

 

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You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that 
is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:

But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert




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Mikrotik :)

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Radwin 1000 and 2000 series

And IIRC Proxim QB series

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


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  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Exalt too

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Radwin 1000 and 2000 series
 
 And IIRC Proxim QB series
 
 Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
 
 
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
 -- 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Trango T45 too

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Radwin 1000 and 2000 series
 
 And IIRC Proxim QB series
 
 Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
 
 
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
 -- 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread lakeland
Exalt
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Certified?

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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Tranzeo is certified.

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Certified?

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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Robert West
But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert



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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread RickG
You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
 fun in all of that?

 I desire a product that demands constant attention.

 -Albert



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 Mikrotik :)

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Robert West
Certifiable.

I'm familiar with that.



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Certified?

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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Robert West
That's me.

 

Philosophical.

 

Also very tired from  yet another 36 hour day.  

 

Thank goodness for illegal drugs.

 

Timothy O'Leary-

 

 

 

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You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert




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Mikrotik :)

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-03 Thread George Rogato

Aww, now I don't feel so bad.


Gino Villarini wrote:

Judd Dare  wow ... that's a old one ... I wonder ehats he's up to
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 issue as 
a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, alot from 
prospects.
It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building 
possitive public perception.


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Hi folks,

So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing
the radios to vacate and move to another channel.

We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we
have any case where those found a radar.

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Ryan Langseth
We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the  
link runs east-west),  the East endpoint is right south of the base,  
less than 3 miles.  We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped  
once.  Here is the DFS info we have:


Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event   Current Status
124 130 days   
 Available
116 130 days   
 Available
120 16  7.20 days   
Available

Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events.

ryan

On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2  
issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it,  
alot from prospects.
It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building  
possitive public perception.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?


Hi folks,

So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are  
forcing

the radios to vacate and move to another channel.

We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't  
think we

have any case where those found a radar.

Thanks,

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Zachery Wolfinger

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?


We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.


Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:

Hi folks,

So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing
the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 


We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we
have any case where those found a radar.

Thanks,

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Patrick Leary
Well, I guess the DFS2 mechanism works! And the radios could not find an
open (non radar) frequency? 

Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Marty Dougherty
We have a couple deployed less then 4 miles from Dulles Airport...one AU has 
los to the airport..while we see noise on a few of the 5.4 channels we have not 
seen any radar at allMarty


-Original Message-
From: Zachery Wolfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: 10/2/07 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing



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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Gino Villarini
A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in 5.4 

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the  
link runs east-west),  the East endpoint is right south of the base,  
less than 3 miles.  We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped  
once.  Here is the DFS info we have:

Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event   Current Status
124 130 days
Available
116 130 days
Available
120 16  7.20 days
Available

Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events.

ryan

On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

 No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2  
 issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it,  
 alot from prospects.
 It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building  
 possitive public perception.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?


 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are  
 forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel.

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't  
 think we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Ryan,

Is that the same Link Jim had problems with every once in while after dark?
We figured they must have been testing the new top secret aircraft..

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the  
link runs east-west),  the East endpoint is right south of the base,  
less than 3 miles.  We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped  
once.  Here is the DFS info we have:

Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event   Current Status
124 130 days
Available
116 130 days
Available
120 16  7.20 days
Available

Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events.

ryan

On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

 No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2  
 issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it,  
 alot from prospects.
 It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building  
 possitive public perception.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?


 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are  
 forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel.

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't  
 think we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I think he was talking 5.3

Mike Bushard, Jr
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:26 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in 5.4 

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the  
link runs east-west),  the East endpoint is right south of the base,  
less than 3 miles.  We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped  
once.  Here is the DFS info we have:

Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event   Current Status
124 130 days
Available
116 130 days
Available
120 16  7.20 days
Available

Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events.

ryan

On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

 No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2  
 issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it,  
 alot from prospects.
 It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building  
 possitive public perception.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?


 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are  
 forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel.

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't  
 think we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yup, and the channels listed there are not in the 5.4 range.
 But part of the frequency it does support has a DFS
requirement (from my understanding), just relaying some
info.

- Original Message Follows -
From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:25:30 -0400

 A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in
 5.4 
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
 Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
 
 We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force
 base (the   link runs east-west),  the East endpoint is
 right south of the base,   less than 3 miles.  We put it
 in the 5.8 range because it dropped   once.  Here is the
 DFS info we have:
 
 ChannelRADAR EventsTime Since Last Event   
 Current Status 1241 30 days
 Available
 1161 30 days
 Available
 120167.20 days
 Available
 
 Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS
 events.
 
 ryan
 
 On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
 
  No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are
  using the DFS2   issue as a major negative against us.
  I'm getting asked about it,   alot from prospects.
  It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it,
  for building   possitive public perception.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
 
 
  Hi folks,
 
  So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2
  kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many
  reports where radars are   forcing
  the radios to vacate and move to another channel.
 
  We are getting asked this a lot of late since we
  released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars
  much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are
 rural, rural coastal, etc. 
  Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but
  I don't   think we
  have any case where those found a radar.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Patrick Leary
  AVP, Market Development
  Alvarion, Inc.
  o: 650.314.2628
  c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Nope, before everything out there was 2.4,  There is one
link to the east that could have been affected by radar from
the airport.

Ryan

- Original Message Follows -
From: Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:38:37 -0500

 Ryan,
 
 Is that the same Link Jim had problems with every once in
 while after dark? We figured they must have been testing
 the new top secret aircraft..
 
 Mike Bushard, Jr
 Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
 320-256-WISP (9477)
 320-256-9478 Fax
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
 Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:09 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
 
 We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force
 base (the   link runs east-west),  the East endpoint is
 right south of the base,   less than 3 miles.  We put it
 in the 5.8 range because it dropped   once.  Here is the
 DFS info we have:
 
 ChannelRADAR EventsTime Since Last Event   
 Current Status 1241 30 days
 Available
 1161 30 days
 Available
 120167.20 days
 Available
 
 Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS
 events.
 
 ryan
 
 On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
 
  No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are
  using the DFS2   issue as a major negative against us.
  I'm getting asked about it,   alot from prospects.
  It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it,
  for building   possitive public perception.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
 
 
  Hi folks,
 
  So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2
  kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many
  reports where radars are   forcing
  the radios to vacate and move to another channel.
 
  We are getting asked this a lot of late since we
  released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars
  much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are
 rural, rural coastal, etc. 
  Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but
  I don't   think we
  have any case where those found a radar.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Patrick Leary
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  Alvarion, Inc.
  o: 650.314.2628
  c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.  Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Gino Villarini
So Brad, what did you use?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Gino,

Well, I don't want to be accused of hijacking a thread and morphing it into
an advertisement for another brand, but IMO a radio without a CSMA
mechanism, with software controlled dual polarity and with a RX threshold
would most likely perform better in a hostile RF environment.  At least
that's been our experience...

Going forward we are favoring licensed PtP links over UL for high value
clients.  For example we are deploying the first of hopefully several 80GHz
1.25Gbps links for a client in the next week or two.  Should be fun to align
with 2' antennas!  grin

Best,


Brad


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

So Brad, what did you use?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Patrick Leary
What a load of garbage. Brad resisted our help at every turn. I was on
some of the calls and I personally made a site visit. I even had some of
our engineers calling me to ask for my help to get Brad to work with
them because he would not call them back and/or refused suggestions or
offers of help. Brad repeatedly turned down offers for our guys to come
out. From day 1 Brad wanted his consulting customer to go the Trango
route (Brad is one of their first customers from back in the Sunstream
days) and he did everything in his power to sabotage the effort. We
learned that soon enough to the point where I told our guys to stop
making any effort; it did not matter what we could do to help, because
it was going to be rail-roaded. Even the company he was consulting for
recognized it. We eventually simply had to give up.

While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the
disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you
try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a
thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios
are failing. 

Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the
sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. 

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Judd Dare  wow ... that's a old one ... I wonder ehats he's up to
lately, He kicked me off his list about 2 years ago...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:11 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

What a load of garbage. Brad resisted our help at every turn. I was on
some of the calls and I personally made a site visit. I even had some of
our engineers calling me to ask for my help to get Brad to work with
them because he would not call them back and/or refused suggestions or
offers of help. Brad repeatedly turned down offers for our guys to come
out. From day 1 Brad wanted his consulting customer to go the Trango
route (Brad is one of their first customers from back in the Sunstream
days) and he did everything in his power to sabotage the effort. We
learned that soon enough to the point where I told our guys to stop
making any effort; it did not matter what we could do to help, because
it was going to be rail-roaded. Even the company he was consulting for
recognized it. We eventually simply had to give up.

While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the
disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you
try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a
thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios
are failing. 

Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the
sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. 

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
Absolute mistruths.  Should I start posting emails between Alvarion
engineers and me?  I still have all the surveys...one after another and
another

Your site visit was to a meeting on the other side of town before the gear
was even deployed!  Lol!

The client was my client not the third party!  Why would I want to sabatoge
my own client?!?  Get a grip Patrick!

Amazing.


Brad



While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the
disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you
try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a
thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios
are failing. 

Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the
sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. 

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
Still has his own list.  Pretty sure Patrick is an active contributor over
theregrin

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Judd Dare  wow ... that's a old one ... I wonder ehats he's up to
lately, He kicked me off his list about 2 years ago...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:11 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

What a load of garbage. Brad resisted our help at every turn. I was on
some of the calls and I personally made a site visit. I even had some of
our engineers calling me to ask for my help to get Brad to work with
them because he would not call them back and/or refused suggestions or
offers of help. Brad repeatedly turned down offers for our guys to come
out. From day 1 Brad wanted his consulting customer to go the Trango
route (Brad is one of their first customers from back in the Sunstream
days) and he did everything in his power to sabotage the effort. We
learned that soon enough to the point where I told our guys to stop
making any effort; it did not matter what we could do to help, because
it was going to be rail-roaded. Even the company he was consulting for
recognized it. We eventually simply had to give up.

While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the
disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you
try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a
thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios
are failing. 

Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the
sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. 

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
A quick email search comes up with dozens of emails with several subjects
spread out over several months all relating to this link.  

How about your 5-17-06 email?  How about Keith Edmonds (Alvarion Engineer)
5-26-06 email or should I say emails?   Skip ahead through dozens of emails
between Keith Edwards, Bob Neiman, you, Les Sparrey, me, Richard and then
check the Alvarion support emails on 8-10-06. 

Yah, it certainly supports your assertion that I was trying to sabotage the
link servicing MY client!  It certainly looks like I was just letting the VL
project die on the vine all the while expending considerable effort to
salvage the client relationship.

Geeshh...give me a break!


Brad

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Absolute mistruths.  Should I start posting emails between Alvarion
engineers and me?  I still have all the surveys...one after another and
another

Your site visit was to a meeting on the other side of town before the gear
was even deployed!  Lol!

The client was my client not the third party!  Why would I want to sabatoge
my own client?!?  Get a grip Patrick!

Amazing.


Brad



While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the
disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you
try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a
thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios
are failing. 

Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the
sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. 

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

This doesn't come as a surprise.  We deployed a couple VL units and they
were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment.
Countless
hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to
remedy
the situation were unsuccessful.

Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to
see
how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity
was
high.  The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active
allowing more airtime for the VL to TX  RX.  This was arguably one of
the
more miserable events of our company's entire existence.  sigh

That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will
scream.  

Best,


Brad

Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting
out of
Alvarion's $1000 class.  grin




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?

Well, since you asked ;-)

We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis.  DFS2 
kicked in big time.  To the point that the radios shut down all 
frequencies and would not communicate with each other.  Sitting in the 
lab they worked fine.  It's possible that at least one side is hearing 
the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies?

We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab.  Mike Cowan from 
Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any 
issues.  We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower 
sites so he can see what they are doing in the field.

Zak Wolfinger
IT Director
CyberLink International
Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357
Fax: 888-293-3995



Patrick Leary wrote:
 Hi folks,

 So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am
 curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are
forcing
 the radios to vacate and move to another channel. 

 We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP,
 but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please
 indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc.

 Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think
we
 have any case where those found a radar.

 Thanks,

 Patrick Leary
 AVP, Market Development
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-10 Thread John Thomas

I couldn't find specific information on certification, but I found this

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1862691,00.asp

John


Gino Villarini wrote:

I saw some FCC certs for Cisco gear in 5.4 ghz, but I bet theyre for
indoor use.  Outdoor ptmp cert gear has yet to be seen

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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Behalf Of John Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
  

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have


theirs out.  Anyone else?
  

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett

I don't think the final 5.4 GHz test procedures were available 6 months ago.


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz



Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have 
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
I saw some FCC certs for Cisco gear in 5.4 ghz, but I bet theyre for
indoor use.  Outdoor ptmp cert gear has yet to be seen

Gino A. Villarini
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of John Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
 Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have
theirs out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6521/products_data_sheet0900aecd8031c844.html

Americas (FCC)

. 2.412 to 2.462 GHz; 11 channels
. 5.15 to 5.35, 5.725 to 5.825 GHz; 12 channels


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz



Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have 
theirs out.  Anyone else?



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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Brownson
They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products.  MSRP 
is $12K - $16K depending on version.  They also include at least 4 T1s 
without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth.  Seems each product has 
it's sweet spot.  Orthogon is great for dificult paths.  Exalt is great 
for low latency and T1s.  Also with adjustable bandwidth it can fit in 
between inteference, so may be good for crowded areas.  And now for the 
commercial, Electro-Comm is a master distributor for Exalt. 


Mike B

George Rogato wrote:


How much?


Dylan Oliver wrote:

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales 
support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. 
Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up 
to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many 
more than

two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz 
spacing - to

help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most 
flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three 
bands

would work.

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Hammett
It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel size, 
and more bandwidth.


I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if they 
actually offer any TDM interfaces.


I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 ms. 
Not sure how that relates to others.



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- Original Message - 
From: Mike Brownson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz


They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products.  MSRP 
is $12K - $16K depending on version.  They also include at least 4 T1s 
without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth.  Seems each product has it's 
sweet spot.  Orthogon is great for dificult paths.  Exalt is great for low 
latency and T1s.  Also with adjustable bandwidth it can fit in between 
inteference, so may be good for crowded areas.  And now for the 
commercial, Electro-Comm is a master distributor for Exalt.

Mike B

George Rogato wrote:


How much?


Dylan Oliver wrote:

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales 
support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. 
Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 
55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more 
than

two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz 
spacing - to

help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most 
flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three 
bands

would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://www.exaltcom.com/




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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-08 Thread Matt Liotta
I wouldn't really compare Orthogon to Exalt as I believe they serve 
different market niches. We use both for very different purposes. 
Orthogon primarily for NLOS. We use Exalt for high throughput 5Ghz 
links. We used to use Orthogon for the same thing, but Exalt's sync 
capability allows for better spectrum usage, which is more important to us.


-Matt

Mike Hammett wrote:
It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel 
size, and more bandwidth.


I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if 
they actually offer any TDM interfaces.


I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 
ms. Not sure how that relates to others.



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- Original Message - From: Mike Brownson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz


They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products.  
MSRP is $12K - $16K depending on version.  They also include at least 
4 T1s without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth.  Seems each 
product has it's sweet spot.  Orthogon is great for dificult paths.  
Exalt is great for low latency and T1s.  Also with adjustable 
bandwidth it can fit in between inteference, so may be good for 
crowded areas.  And now for the commercial, Electro-Comm is a master 
distributor for Exalt.

Mike B

George Rogato wrote:


How much?


Dylan Oliver wrote:

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales 
support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks 
ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up 
to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many 
more than

two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and 
have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz 
spacing - to

help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most 
flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three 
bands

would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://www.exaltcom.com/




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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-08 Thread Gino Villarini
Orthogon is coming out with sync this summer, also the ability to change
the channel size too ... nice

Gino A. Villarini
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

I wouldn't really compare Orthogon to Exalt as I believe they serve 
different market niches. We use both for very different purposes. 
Orthogon primarily for NLOS. We use Exalt for high throughput 5Ghz 
links. We used to use Orthogon for the same thing, but Exalt's sync 
capability allows for better spectrum usage, which is more important to
us.

-Matt

Mike Hammett wrote:
 It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel

 size, and more bandwidth.

 I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if 
 they actually offer any TDM interfaces.

 I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 
 ms. Not sure how that relates to others.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 - Original Message - From: Mike Brownson 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz


 They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products.  
 MSRP is $12K - $16K depending on version.  They also include at least

 4 T1s without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth.  Seems each 
 product has it's sweet spot.  Orthogon is great for dificult paths.  
 Exalt is great for low latency and T1s.  Also with adjustable 
 bandwidth it can fit in between inteference, so may be good for 
 crowded areas.  And now for the commercial, Electro-Comm is a master 
 distributor for Exalt.
 Mike B

 George Rogato wrote:

 How much?


 Dylan Oliver wrote:

 Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales 
 support
 when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks 
 ago. Exalt
 takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up

 to 55
 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many 
 more than
 two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
 sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and 
 have
 adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz 
 spacing - to
 help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to
the
 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to
216
 Mbps (in
 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most 
 flexible
 option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three

 bands
 would work.

 On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://www.exaltcom.com/


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 We're your complete back-haul solutions source
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-08 Thread Bob Moldashel
I agree with Matt though I am becoming more biased towards Exalt.  I 
have 6 Orthogon Spectra links in place for about a year now. I have had 
one radio failure that was promptly replaced when it was Orthogon not 
Motorola. I have also had 5 (yes FIVE) power supply failures during that 
time. Three were replaced quickly when it was Orthogon. My last 2 
replacements from Motorola took 9 days and had to be shipped from the 
UK. Not really happy with that.  Fortunately we had several spares from 
the Orthogon days.


I have 2 sites that are Exalt intense. One site has 4 links and the 
other has 7. On the site with four links we have three on one channel 
and one on another. Unfortunately we had an azimuth issue that prevented 
us from using just one.


On the second site we have all 7 links all on the same channel.  Now 
THAT's spectral efficiency.  Right Marlon???   :-P


Gotta luv that!

All of our links are outdoor ruggedized units. We have NO indoor only 
units. We are not using T1's.


We have had NO failures to date. We have GPS sync at all locations. We 
did have a mounting bracket that was missing hardware which was promptly 
replaced. Otherwise the stuff rocks.


It will also be great once the asymetrical bandwidth option is available 
in the next few weeks.


We have not tried any NLOS links with Exalt.

Bob




Matt Liotta wrote:
I wouldn't really compare Orthogon to Exalt as I believe they serve 
different market niches. We use both for very different purposes. 
Orthogon primarily for NLOS. We use Exalt for high throughput 5Ghz 
links. We used to use Orthogon for the same thing, but Exalt's sync 
capability allows for better spectrum usage, which is more important 
to us.


-Matt

Mike Hammett wrote:
It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same 
channel size, and more bandwidth.


I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if 
they actually offer any TDM interfaces.


I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 
ms. Not sure how that relates to others.



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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-08 Thread John Thomas

Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have theirs 
out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread lakeland
Exalt real soon

Bob
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-Original Message-
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 
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Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have theirs 
out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Matt Liotta

Mike Hammett wrote:

http://www.exaltcom.com/

Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up 
on them, they're worth keeping up on.



We have deployed Exalt radios and find the have a pretty unique offering.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Hammett

http://www.exaltcom.com/

Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on 
them, they're worth keeping up on.



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz


Exalt real soon

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23
To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have theirs 
out.  Anyone else?



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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Dylan Oliver

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than
two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to
help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands
would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.exaltcom.com/

Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on
them, they're worth keeping up on.


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz


Exalt real soon

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23
To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have
theirs
out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread George Rogato

How much?


Dylan Oliver wrote:

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more 
than

two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing 
- to

help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands
would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.exaltcom.com/

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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Greg used to be with DragonWave.

I think that they a have a quality product. The fact that you can change the
channel size is very nice. I really like my Orthogon radios, but definitely
will look at exalt on my next 5.xGhz backhaul.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dylan Oliver
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than
two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to
help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands
would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.exaltcom.com/

 Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on
 them, they're worth keeping up on.


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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz


 Exalt real soon

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23
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 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

 Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have
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