RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Yes, my mistake. Thank you for pointing out my error. I wondered if I was referring to the right NPRM but didn't take the time to look it up. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Rick: I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed "contention-based" sharing mechanism.) This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of the way. It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for high-bandwidth, relatively short-range. Mac: It IS "available to everyone" - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news is that it may well be enough to "encourage" WLANs and cordless phones to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz. Thanks, Steve On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote: > Mac, > > As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to > be > allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices > will be > allowed to operate in this spectrum. > > I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade > for > the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. > http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html > > I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra > upgrade. > > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now > > Marlon, > > Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned > loose > to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this > going to > > be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I > am > dreaming here!! > > Thanks, > Mac Dearman > Maximum Access, LLC. > Authorized Barracuda Reseller > MikroTik RouterOS Certified > www.inetsouth.com > www.mac-tel.us > www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) > Rayville, La. > 318.728.8600 > 318.303.4228 > 318.303.4229 > --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Steve, DFS. Dynamic Frequency Selection. Brad -Original Message- From: Steve Stroh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Rick: I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed "contention-based" sharing mechanism.) This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of the way. It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for high-bandwidth, relatively short-range. Mac: It IS "available to everyone" - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news is that it may well be enough to "encourage" WLANs and cordless phones to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz. Thanks, Steve On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote: > Mac, > > As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to > be > allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices > will be > allowed to operate in this spectrum. > > I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade > for > the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. > http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html > > I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra > upgrade. > > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now > > Marlon, > > Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned > loose > to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this > going to > > be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I > am > dreaming here!! > > Thanks, > Mac Dearman > Maximum Access, LLC. > Authorized Barracuda Reseller > MikroTik RouterOS Certified > www.inetsouth.com > www.mac-tel.us > www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) > Rayville, La. > 318.728.8600 > 318.303.4228 > 318.303.4229 > --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Rick: I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed "contention-based" sharing mechanism.) This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of the way. It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for high-bandwidth, relatively short-range. Mac: It IS "available to everyone" - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news is that it may well be enough to "encourage" WLANs and cordless phones to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz. Thanks, Steve On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote: Mac, As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices will be allowed to operate in this spectrum. I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade for the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra upgrade. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Marlon, Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am dreaming here!! Thanks, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Sorry to bust your bubble but that was EU only -B- Rick Harnish wrote: Mac, As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices will be allowed to operate in this spectrum. I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade for the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra upgrade. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Rick, The orthogon software upgrade pertaining to the 5.4 gzh band only applies to the Gemini 5.4 capable unit only wich is for the Euro Market, non US based gear has been certified yet for 5.4 ghz >From the Orthogon release notes: 1.1 Support for the 5.4GHz Hardware Variant The Orthogon Systems OS-Gemini product range has a new frequency variant to compliment its existing 5.8GHz product range. The new 5.4GHz hardware variant operates between 5.470 to 5.725GHz (defined as the ETSI 5 GHz band B), utilising 11MHz channels widths and variable base 12MHz raster. Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Mac, As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices will be allowed to operate in this spectrum. I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade for the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra upgrade. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Marlon, Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am dreaming here!! Thanks, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now > Hi All, > > I talked to the FCC the other day. 5.4 is at the "grammatical checking > stage". All of the hard work is done. Should see product soon. > > They (the FCC) has extended the certification of the existing rules (5.4's > rules also affect new 5.2 gig gear) for the current crop of 5.2 gig gear. > Only till around June though. The new rules should be well in place by > then. > > For those that haven't seen the latest from the NTIA (that's who was > holding things up). > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/press/2006/5ghz_020806.htm > > laters, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Mac, As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices will be allowed to operate in this spectrum. I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade for the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra upgrade. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Marlon, Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am dreaming here!! Thanks, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now > Hi All, > > I talked to the FCC the other day. 5.4 is at the "grammatical checking > stage". All of the hard work is done. Should see product soon. > > They (the FCC) has extended the certification of the existing rules (5.4's > rules also affect new 5.2 gig gear) for the current crop of 5.2 gig gear. > Only till around June though. The new rules should be well in place by > then. > > For those that haven't seen the latest from the NTIA (that's who was > holding things up). > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/press/2006/5ghz_020806.htm > > laters, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Marlon, Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am dreaming here!! Thanks, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Hi All, I talked to the FCC the other day. 5.4 is at the "grammatical checking stage". All of the hard work is done. Should see product soon. They (the FCC) has extended the certification of the existing rules (5.4's rules also affect new 5.2 gig gear) for the current crop of 5.2 gig gear. Only till around June though. The new rules should be well in place by then. For those that haven't seen the latest from the NTIA (that's who was holding things up). http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/press/2006/5ghz_020806.htm laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
