Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue - long term revenue

2006-05-09 Thread Peter R.

This is just my view:

The days of making money off just internet connectivity are closing fast.
Even the RBOCs realize that they will need to charge more and add 
services and bundle.
Some have added secure email**, desktop support, internet security, etc. 
to boost the ARPU.

Plus bundles lock the customer up for 2 to 3 years.

Managed services are where the rubber meets the road.
Technology has gotten beyond th eaverage user's mental grasp.
Remember that the average consumer couldn't set a VCR clock, but now has 
to figure out streaming video, iPods, mp3, mp4, digital pictures, online 
photo albums, etc. Beyond their understanding.


In a sales class I took they explained that if someone bought an item, 
it is your job to vacuum up the plate with accessories to make that item 
more useful and valuable to the customer. Like selling a cable with a 
printer plus paper.^^


- Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc.
813-963-5884

(**why Indie ISPs did not capture this market first I have no idea)
(^^ joke at http://www.askmen.com/jokes/2001_feb/feb28.html)
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Harnish








Given the opportunity, most WildBlue
customers will switch to an alternative source of broadband as soon as it is
available in their area.  WildBlue is much better than Directway but it is
STILL satellite Internet.  Physics is Physics.  Ping
times usually average from 550-650 ms (at least early on, I’m not sure
right now)  They don’t allow gaming or VoIP.

 



Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

260-918-4340
VoIP

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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:35
PM
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reselling Wildblue



 

Around here, I got more
calls for service in the week after the Wild Blue rollout than in the 3 months
before.

And, now with their system overload, I am poaching their customers left and
right

Bring em' on!!!

Rick Harnish wrote:



We were subcontracted by a Rural Utility Cooperative to inventory, install,make sales, consult, and perform billing activities and maintenance fortheir Wildblue rollout.  This is ongoing revenue for the installedcustomers.  I believe we installed about 175 units last fall until thecapacity of Beam 27 (midwest) reached capacity.   Wildblue is putting another bird in space this fall and more salesopportunities will commence at that time.   It is mandatory that you be a certified WildBlue installer to perform suchduties.   Rick HarnishPresidentOnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.260-827-2482 Office260-307-4000 Cell260-918-4340 VoIPwww.oibw.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:51 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company? We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to give away the customers. grr Marlon(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)    Consulting services42846865 (icq)    And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam   - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PMSubject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue    

We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success withthem. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacityand add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we'vedealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Peter R.Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue  To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internetservice under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadband_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T aspart of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technologythat underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist at5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM --   Regards, PeterRAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP StrategistWe Help ISPs Connect & Communicate813.963.5884http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm  -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 

   






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Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-09 Thread Blair Davis




Around here, I got more calls for service in the week after the Wild
Blue rollout than in the 3 months before.

And, now with their system overload, I am poaching their customers left
and right

Bring em' on!!!

Rick Harnish wrote:

  We were subcontracted by a Rural Utility Cooperative to inventory, install,
make sales, consult, and perform billing activities and maintenance for
their Wildblue rollout.  This is ongoing revenue for the installed
customers.  I believe we installed about 175 units last fall until the
capacity of Beam 27 (midwest) reached capacity.  

Wildblue is putting another bird in space this fall and more sales
opportunities will commence at that time.  

It is mandatory that you be a certified WildBlue installer to perform such
duties.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company?

We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to 
give away the customers.

grr

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


  
  
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
d_1]

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist
 at
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM

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Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Harnish
We were subcontracted by a Rural Utility Cooperative to inventory, install,
make sales, consult, and perform billing activities and maintenance for
their Wildblue rollout.  This is ongoing revenue for the installed
customers.  I believe we installed about 175 units last fall until the
capacity of Beam 27 (midwest) reached capacity.  

Wildblue is putting another bird in space this fall and more sales
opportunities will commence at that time.  

It is mandatory that you be a certified WildBlue installer to perform such
duties.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company?

We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to 
give away the customers.

grr

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
> and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
> dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
>
>
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
> service under its own brand.
>
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
> d_1]
>
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,
> Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as
> part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology
> that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
> Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
>
> -- 
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
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> http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-09 Thread Chuck
Same same here...

Chuck Moses 
HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
16922 Airport Blvd # 3 
Mojave CA 93501 
661 824 3431 office
818 406 6818 cell 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company?

We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to 
give away the customers.

grr

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
> and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
> dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
>
>
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
> service under its own brand.
>
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
> d_1]
>
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,
> Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as
> part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology
> that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
> Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
>
> -- 
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
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> 813.963.5884
> http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company?

We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to 
give away the customers.


grr

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue



We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
d_1]

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist
<http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM

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Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



We 
don't bill the customer for "Internet Service" at all - We give the "access" 
away to them. WildBlue does have reseller / installer programs. What we charge 
is for a "response time" to handle their needs in the event something burns up / 
gets zapped / gets moved, etc.
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:58 PMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling 
  WildblueSo all the accounts are setup under your name and 
  then you just bill the customer whatever price?Do you know if they 
  have a reseller option or any information about 
  it?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to
run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent
around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay.

How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the
"service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we
service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly
service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if
something goes south.

Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield
companies love to be catered to.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


Hey Johnny

Whats the speeds and latency up and down?
How much do you get to make on it?


Thanks
George

JohnnyO wrote:
  
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

  
we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
an
d_1] 

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
Alaska,
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and
speed.
  
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
 at 
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM


  
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread Travis Johnson




So all the accounts are setup under your name and then you just bill
the customer whatever price?

Do you know if they have a reseller option or any information about it?

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote:

  We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to
run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent
around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay.

How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the
"service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we
service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly
service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if
something goes south.

Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield
companies love to be catered to.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


Hey Johnny

Whats the speeds and latency up and down?
How much do you get to make on it?


Thanks
George

JohnnyO wrote:
  
  
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

  
  
  
  
we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
an
d_1] 

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
Alaska,
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and

  
  speed.
  
  
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
 at 
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM


  
  
  



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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
Laura - if you can't beat the oilfield companies - CHARGE THE HELL OUT
OF THEM :) It eases the pain a bit.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


Since the latency is consistant have you tried running any voip over it?
Just curious. If so, how is it? I was wondering why the price of gas has
been skyrocketing in Louisiana lately. Guess they have to cover their
payments to you.LOL Joe Superior Wireless New Orleans,La.
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From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
> capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

> we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
>
> JohnnyO
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
>
>
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet 
> service under its own brand.
>
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
> an
> d_1]
>
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
> Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by 
> AT&T as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi 
> technology that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater 
> range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at 
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
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>
> Peter
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread Joe Laura
Since the latency is consistant have you tried running any voip over it?
Just curious. If so, how is it? I was wondering why the price of gas has
been skyrocketing in Louisiana lately. Guess they have to cover their
payments to you.LOL Joe
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
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From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
> and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
> dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
>
>
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
> service under its own brand.
>
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
> d_1]
>
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,
> Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as
> part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology
> that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
> Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
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> 813.963.5884
> http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread George Rogato

JohnnyO wrote:
 but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we

service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly
service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if
something goes south.



Good deal you got there Johnny.

George
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to
run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent
around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay.

How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the
"service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we
service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly
service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if
something goes south.

Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield
companies love to be catered to.

JohnnyO

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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM
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Hey Johnny

Whats the speeds and latency up and down?
How much do you get to make on it?


Thanks
George

JohnnyO wrote:
> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
> capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

> we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
> 
> JohnnyO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
> 
> 
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
> service under its own brand.
> 
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
> an
> d_1] 
> 
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
> Alaska,
> Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
> part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
> that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and
speed.
> Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at 
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
> 

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Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread George Rogato

Hey Johnny

Whats the speeds and latency up and down?
How much do you get to make on it?


Thanks
George

JohnnyO wrote:

We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet 
service under its own brand.


[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
d_1] 

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, 
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
 at 
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM




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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet 
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
d_1] 

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, 
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
 at 
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM

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