Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
All of our local TV stations (3, 8,10,11,12 14) have all completed their transition to DTV. They are still broadcasting analog as well and will continue to do so until the deadline. Those who have not completed their transition by the deadline Feb 17, 2009 will possibly face a huge fine from what I have read. http://www.dtv.gov/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Release Date: 11/19/2008 8:58 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
Something to this effect is mentioned in the second (and most recent) TVWS RO. I forget the details, but there's a few different types of TV repeaters. I would imagine legally they may not be required to, but their contract with the network may require them to (in order to support HD). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
Lower Power TV and Translators (they are pretty much the same license) are Exempt. However most of them are conveying the signal of a larger network station. The larger network station will want the translator chain to be digital if they can. Many of the translators in Utah have a digital unit running now and may switch off the analog signal when the day comes. HDTV translators were essentially invented here in Utah by Maury Parsons working with Zenith and the ATSC. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, translated to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ranges and valleys, this is the way TV got piped around. Some special tax districts were formed to finance the operations of translator installations. Many small towns would have a building on a nearby hilltop with a half dozen translators inside. In some cases translators were daisy chained 3 or 4 deep. In other areas, groups of TV broadcasters got together and financed the translators. I would suspect that even if a translator operator isn't going to change to HDTV, they will most likely feed the input of their translator with a signal derived from and HDTV signal. That will produce much better quality than they ever had before. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
I used to live in a small town in Northern California. Every few months, one of the 4 translators they had running on the ridgetop would get crystal-clear while the other 3 would be fuzzy as hell. Finally I asked the locals about it. It seems you are not a local in that town unless you have been there at least 20+ years. The locals told me that the good translator is used for whatever sporting season it was! So Baseball was on Channel X so it got the good translator that season, then when football started on channel Y it would get the good translator. I love small towns! ryan Chuck McCown wrote: Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, translated to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ranges and valleys, this is the way TV got piped around. Some special tax districts were formed to finance the operations of translator installations. Many small towns would have a building on a nearby hilltop with a half dozen translators inside. In some cases translators were daisy chained 3 or 4 deep. In other areas, groups of TV broadcasters got together and financed the translators. I would suspect that even if a translator operator isn't going to change to HDTV, they will most likely feed the input of their translator with a signal derived from and HDTV signal. That will produce much better quality than they ever had before. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
George, He is correct in that statement. There are exemptions for low power translators. That was one of the reasons I put that big disclaimer in my mapping tool. If you go here you can read about these special cases http://www.fcc.gov/oet/faqs/dtv-tvtx.html. If there will be these situations in your area the tool I sent out does not have the old analog contours loaded in. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile (208) 692-1898 Fax www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
I know one group of farmers and townsfolk that had an ad hoc translator committee that paid for parts and repairs. It wasn't a legal entity, just a group of folks that pooled donations to keep it alive. They would have an annual meeting and fund drive. One year nobody was interested in coming to the meeting due to a particularly interesting football game. The guy in charge went up to the translator, waited for the kick off and pulled the plug while the ball was in the air. People came to the meeting. - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I used to live in a small town in Northern California. Every few months, one of the 4 translators they had running on the ridgetop would get crystal-clear while the other 3 would be fuzzy as hell. Finally I asked the locals about it. It seems you are not a local in that town unless you have been there at least 20+ years. The locals told me that the good translator is used for whatever sporting season it was! So Baseball was on Channel X so it got the good translator that season, then when football started on channel Y it would get the good translator. I love small towns! ryan Chuck McCown wrote: Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, translated to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ranges and valleys, this is the way TV got piped around. Some special tax districts were formed to finance the operations of translator installations. Many small towns would have a building on a nearby hilltop with a half dozen translators inside. In some cases translators were daisy chained 3 or 4 deep. In other areas, groups of TV broadcasters got together and financed the translators. I would suspect that even if a translator operator isn't going to change to HDTV, they will most likely feed the input of their translator with a signal derived from and HDTV signal. That will produce much better quality than they ever had before. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
Ass. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I know one group of farmers and townsfolk that had an ad hoc translator committee that paid for parts and repairs. It wasn't a legal entity, just a group of folks that pooled donations to keep it alive. They would have an annual meeting and fund drive. One year nobody was interested in coming to the meeting due to a particularly interesting football game. The guy in charge went up to the translator, waited for the kick off and pulled the plug while the ball was in the air. People came to the meeting. - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I used to live in a small town in Northern California. Every few months, one of the 4 translators they had running on the ridgetop would get crystal-clear while the other 3 would be fuzzy as hell. Finally I asked the locals about it. It seems you are not a local in that town unless you have been there at least 20+ years. The locals told me that the good translator is used for whatever sporting season it was! So Baseball was on Channel X so it got the good translator that season, then when football started on channel Y it would get the good translator. I love small towns! ryan Chuck McCown wrote: Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, translated to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ranges and valleys, this is the way TV got piped around. Some special tax districts were formed to finance the operations of translator installations. Many small towns would have a building on a nearby hilltop with a half dozen translators inside. In some cases translators were daisy chained 3 or 4 deep. In other areas, groups of TV broadcasters got together and financed the translators. I would suspect that even if a translator operator isn't going to change to HDTV, they will most likely feed the input of their translator with a signal derived from and HDTV signal. That will produce much better quality than they ever had before. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
Small towns... Mike Hammett wrote: Ass. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Chuck McCown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:33 AM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I know one group of farmers and townsfolk that had an ad hoc translator committee that paid for parts and repairs. It wasn't a legal entity, just a group of folks that pooled donations to keep it alive. They would have an annual meeting and fund drive. One year nobody was interested in coming to the meeting due to a particularly interesting football game. The guy in charge went up to the translator, waited for the kick off and pulled the plug while the ball was in the air. People came to the meeting. - Original Message - From: "D. Ryan Spott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I used to live in a small town in Northern California. Every few months, one of the 4 translators they had running on the ridgetop would get crystal-clear while the other 3 would be fuzzy as hell. Finally I asked the locals about it. It seems you are not a local in that town unless you have been there at least 20+ years. The locals told me that the "good translator" is used for whatever sporting season it was! So Baseball was on Channel X so it got the good translator that season, then when football started on channel Y it would get the good translator. I love small towns! ryan Chuck McCown wrote: Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, "translated" to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ranges and valleys, this is the way TV got piped around. Some special tax districts were formed to finance the operations of translator installations. Many small towns would have a building on a nearby hilltop with a half dozen translators inside. In some cases translators were daisy chained 3 or 4 deep. In other areas, groups of TV broadcasters got together and financed the translators. I would suspect that even if a translator operator isn't going to change to HDTV, they will most likely feed the input of their translator with a signal derived from and HDTV signal. That will produce much better quality than they ever had before. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "CHUCK PROFITO" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 09:21:46AM -0800, D. Ryan Spott wrote: I used to live in a small town in Northern California. Every few months, one of the 4 translators they had running on the ridgetop would get crystal-clear while the other 3 would be fuzzy as hell. Finally I asked the locals about it. It seems you are not a local in that town unless you have been there at least 20+ years. The locals told me that the good translator is used for whatever sporting season it was! For the most part, you're not a local around here unless you have either lived through the great depression here, or you were raised by locals. In Maine, there are a few low power tv stations that appear to be religious channel repeaters. None are near me, so I can't confirm. So Baseball was on Channel X so it got the good translator that season, then when football started on channel Y it would get the good translator. I love small towns! ryan Chuck McCown wrote: Perhaps the question was a little more general. A TV translator is nothing more than a repeater. For example channel 6 would be received, translated to channel 55 and retransmitted. Normally they were VHF in and UHF out. Low power. 2 to 200 watts. Out west, where we have lots of mountain ranges and valleys, this is the way TV got piped around. Some special tax districts were formed to finance the operations of translator installations. Many small towns would have a building on a nearby hilltop with a half dozen translators inside. In some cases translators were daisy chained 3 or 4 deep. In other areas, groups of TV broadcasters got together and financed the translators. I would suspect that even if a translator operator isn't going to change to HDTV, they will most likely feed the input of their translator with a signal derived from and HDTV signal. That will produce much better quality than they ever had before. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? The RO states what each type of station is and what it does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? George, What do you mean by term 'translator'(is that the brunette between the blond and redhead?) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION? I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the coast. He has a translator here. I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion. His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the situation. Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said, out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert, all the others, on translators, don't have to. Anyone else hear this or know differently? George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
Sounds like crap to me. I probably have one of the oldest VHF\UHF setups (the house is 95 years old) there is. I'm located probably 70 miles from Chicago's TV stations and I received signal just fine... until the preamp went out and I gave up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:59 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
I have been using WiFi Spray instead, its cheaper and works just as good!! Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is 802yellow!! I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-) Mac (not Dearman) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
I'll take a case of the yellow. Do you accept Paypal? :) Travis Mac Dearman wrote: I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is 802yellow!! I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-) Mac (not Dearman) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
It's actually pretty cheap, here: http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll take a case of the yellow. Do you accept Paypal? :) Travis Mac Dearman wrote: I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is 802yellow!! I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-) Mac (not Dearman) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
Save your money, Wikipedia says that Wi-Fi spray is simply re-packaged Astro-Glide personal lubricant. American Towers is the largest consumer. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition I'll take a case of the yellow. Do you accept Paypal? :) Travis Mac Dearman wrote: I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is 802yellow!! I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-) Mac (not Dearman) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
ROTFLMAO __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition Save your money, Wikipedia says that Wi-Fi spray is simply re-packaged Astro-Glide personal lubricant. American Towers is the largest consumer. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition I'll take a case of the yellow. Do you accept Paypal? :) Travis Mac Dearman wrote: I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is 802yellow!! I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-) Mac (not Dearman) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1794 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
Is yellow the best answer in this situation. I was thinking Red would tend to help support department know who was on the slicked up service compared to those who like it natural. Best to know who you're dealing with when you send out a service tech. Steve Barnes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition I'll take a case of the yellow. Do you accept Paypal? :) Travis Mac Dearman wrote: I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is 802yellow!! I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-) Mac (not Dearman) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
For three years I received my content off-air only while I lived in the Silicon Valley. The quality of the signal off-air was amazing and really popped off my plasma. Getting it direct with no compression...and for free with a small antenna...was really great. I'll be doing it again once I have the time to install a roof antenna on my new home in FL. The best web site I found to select the gain of the antenna and set the azimuth is www.antennaweb.org. It gives you a complete list of channels available in your area and will display a street level view how to align your antenna. I always believed WISPs should add this installation to their business. This might enable you to somewhat package a triple play offer using the off-air for content and the wireless for Internet and voice. - Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
roflmao I don't care who you are, THAT'S funny! marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition Save your money, Wikipedia says that Wi-Fi spray is simply re-packaged Astro-Glide personal lubricant. American Towers is the largest consumer. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition I'll take a case of the yellow. Do you accept Paypal? :) Travis WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DTV transition
I just got an LED TV. Wonder of wonders, THIS one picks up some channels. Even the old analog stuff. There are a few digital ones as well. Guess the TV receiver is just as important as our gear. I'd not say that the OTA channels are any better than the Dish Network ones though. Either way, going from SDTV to HDTV and 27 to 46 is pretty amazing! marlon - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DTV transition For three years I received my content off-air only while I lived in the Silicon Valley. The quality of the signal off-air was amazing and really popped off my plasma. Getting it direct with no compression...and for free with a small antenna...was really great. I'll be doing it again once I have the time to install a roof antenna on my new home in FL. The best web site I found to select the gain of the antenna and set the azimuth is www.antennaweb.org. It gives you a complete list of channels available in your area and will display a street level view how to align your antenna. I always believed WISPs should add this installation to their business. This might enable you to somewhat package a triple play offer using the off-air for content and the wireless for Internet and voice. - Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels! Just got this today and thought I'd pass it along. For Immediate Release Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure continued enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new digital TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box. But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of older and heavily-used television antenna elements. Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals and rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable. Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you can recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile because its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No... you'd wash and wax it! Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and DigiWax (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing satisfaction. Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an older outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an ecofriendly and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal residue and bird droppings. When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax (tm) to the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm). Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on April 1st, 2009. #--30--# DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc. Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
