Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-10-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We're using Courier Mail.  www.tallon.com handles the servers for us.

We've had very little trouble with it.

I'm thinking of tucows though.  Just not sure if I can justify the increase in 
costs vs. what my in-house costs are.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Nash 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


  We used to use Squirrel Mail and I though it was unprofessional.  The 
Everyone.Net web interface is very good.  It looks alot like Roundcube...
- Original Message - 
From: Martha Huizenga 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others.

martha

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
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On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
hard to use.

Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote:
We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
use.

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter

On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.





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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-10-28 Thread Andy Trimmell
We've been using @Mail for quite some time.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

We're using Courier Mail.  www.tallon.com handles the servers for us.

 

We've had very little trouble with it.

 

I'm thinking of tucows though.  Just not sure if I can justify the
increase in costs vs. what my in-house costs are.

marlon

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Nash mailto:markl...@uwol.net  

To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

We used to use Squirrel Mail and I though it was unprofessional.
The Everyone.Net web interface is very good.  It looks alot like
Roundcube...

- Original Message - 

From: Martha Huizenga mailto:mar...@dcaccess.net  

To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check
out the others.

martha

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net 
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/64
096486706?ref=ts or follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess 


On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to
agree..the Interface is
hard to use.
 
Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short
while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.
 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga
mar...@dcaccess.net mailto:mar...@dcaccess.net  wrote:

We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly
user friendly and easy to
use.
 
Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter
 
On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:
 
What user email client are you using? Are your
users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we
used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured
and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.
 
 
 
On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 
We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on
Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider
Tucows email service before
Google.
 
Tucows service tend to be more suited for
ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.
 
Regards.
 
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
 
 
On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:
 
 
Hello,
 
We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party
email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are
very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.
Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like
to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.
 
What 3rd-party providers have been successful
for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support

Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-10-28 Thread Mark Nash
Andy, how do you like your Atmail?  

Are you using their hosted service, or do you have your own server?

How is it for allowing domain admins to administer their own domains, while 
still letting the ISP have access to ALL accounts?

It looks like the user is in control of their own spam settings, right?  Is 
that working well?

How is the support from Atmail?

We're looking at hosting our own mail again, not 3rd-party hosting any more.

Thanks for the info!

Mark
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Trimmell 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


  We've been using @Mail for quite some time.

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

   

  We're using Courier Mail.  www.tallon.com handles the servers for us.

   

  We've had very little trouble with it.

   

  I'm thinking of tucows though.  Just not sure if I can justify the increase 
in costs vs. what my in-house costs are.

  marlon

   

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Nash 

To: WISPA General List 

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

We used to use Squirrel Mail and I though it was unprofessional.  The 
Everyone.Net web interface is very good.  It looks alot like Roundcube...

  - Original Message - 

  From: Martha Huizenga 

  To: WISPA General List 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

   

  I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others.

  martha

  Martha Huizenga
  DC Access, LLC
  202-546-5898
  Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
  Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
  Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter


  On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface ishard to 
use. Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had itand 
Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite. Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 
937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373   On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 
12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote:We use Horde for our 
webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy touse. Martha HuizengaDC 
Access, LLC202-546-5898Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!Connecting the 
Capitol Hill CommunityJoin us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter On 9/21/2010 
12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote: What user email client are you using? Are your 
users happy with it? Weare considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, 
but we need anemail client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky 
thanthe older web clients we were used to.   On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal 
Imtiaz wrote: We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos ServersBut 
if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service beforeGoogle. 
Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don'tmarket to 
yours and our customers. Regards. Faisal ImtiazSnappy Internet  Telecom  On 
9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:  Hello, We are currently using 
Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider forabout 60 domains and 1000 
email accounts. We are very displeased withtheir service and have decided to 
make a change.  Last time it was a bitof a shot in the dark, this time we would 
like to make a choice we canstick with for a long time. What 3rd-party 
providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ userrange? Responsive 
support is our number one demand, followed by servicereliability.  Does anyone 
have experience with Google mail services forbusiness? It is one among several 
we are considering.
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
I've used Gmail for a couple of years now.  No cost, no issues.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Justin Mann
justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Nash
Josh, have you set up multiple domains within Gmail?  For the number of 
users we're talking about?

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


I've used Gmail for a couple of years now.  No cost, no issues.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Justin Mann
justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change. Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability. Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I am happy with google for email. They are currently doing a forced
change to the service that is going to make life less fun for people
hosting with them for a bit. If you have say www.foo.com email hosted
with them, and your user bar has the email b...@foo.com AND has a
personal google account (igoogle) registered using said b...@foo.com,
then they will be forcibly combined come this fall. Other then this
very evil move, they have been great. Since they opened up the GFYD I
have setup 50+ domains and have not had issues or had to go back for
anything really related to Google. Users tho, are users. I still
recommend them and people have told me that if you talk with them
upfront and show what you will be moving to them, they will work with
you on price. If I ever decide to move away from google, I would move
email back in house. The primary reason I moved was the data centers I
had hosting in BOTH experienced extreme outages (one the power room
blew up, the other had '3 physically redundant paths' taken out by the
same backhoe). Google took 20 min to setup and restore working email
services.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
I have well under 1000 users total - maybe a few hundred.  Probably 20
or 30 different domains.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
 Josh, have you set up multiple domains within Gmail?  For the number of
 users we're talking about?

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


 I've used Gmail for a couple of years now.  No cost, no issues.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Justin Mann
 justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change. Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability. Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
with them, and your user bar has the email b...@foo.com AND has a
personal google account (igoogle) registered using said b...@foo.com,
then they will be forcibly combined come this fall. Other then this

It was this way at the latest November 2006.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 I am happy with google for email. They are currently doing a forced
 change to the service that is going to make life less fun for people
 hosting with them for a bit. If you have say www.foo.com email hosted
 with them, and your user bar has the email b...@foo.com AND has a
 personal google account (igoogle) registered using said b...@foo.com,
 then they will be forcibly combined come this fall. Other then this
 very evil move, they have been great. Since they opened up the GFYD I
 have setup 50+ domains and have not had issues or had to go back for
 anything really related to Google. Users tho, are users. I still
 recommend them and people have told me that if you talk with them
 upfront and show what you will be moving to them, they will work with
 you on price. If I ever decide to move away from google, I would move
 email back in house. The primary reason I moved was the data centers I
 had hosting in BOTH experienced extreme outages (one the power room
 blew up, the other had '3 physically redundant paths' taken out by the
 same backhoe). Google took 20 min to setup and restore working email
 services.

 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com 
 wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before 
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't 
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Justin Mann
What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We 
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an 
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than 
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
 But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
 Google.

 Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
 market to yours and our customers.

 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom


 On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Martha Huizenga
 We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and 
easy to use.


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On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet   Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.





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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
hard to use.

Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote:
 We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
 use.

 Martha Huizenga
 DC Access, LLC
 202-546-5898
 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
 Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
 Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter

 On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

 What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
 are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
 email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
 the older web clients we were used to.



 On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

 We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
 But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
 Google.

 Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
 market to yours and our customers.

 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom


 On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Martha Huizenga

 I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others.

martha

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202-546-5898
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On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
hard to use.

Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizengamar...@dcaccess.net  wrote:

We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
use.

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter

On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet   Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.





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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Nash
We used to use Squirrel Mail and I though it was unprofessional.  The 
Everyone.Net web interface is very good.  It looks alot like Roundcube...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Martha Huizenga 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


  I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others.

  martha

  Martha Huizenga
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  202-546-5898
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  On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
hard to use.

Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote:
We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
use.

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter

On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.





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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Michael Baird
Zimbra is ahead of all of those, and it is a complete system that scales 
very well and is based on open software.


Regards
Michael Baird

I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others.

martha

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On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
hard to use.

Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizengamar...@dcaccess.net  wrote:
 

We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
use.

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter

On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet   Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.





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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I do not think we are talking about the same issue here.

http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=181874

This just started a few months ago (on a voluntary basis) and will be
a forced issue this fall (October ~)


On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
with them, and your user bar has the email b...@foo.com AND has a
personal google account (igoogle) registered using said b...@foo.com,
then they will be forcibly combined come this fall. Other then this

 It was this way at the latest November 2006.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net 
 wrote:
 I am happy with google for email. They are currently doing a forced
 change to the service that is going to make life less fun for people
 hosting with them for a bit. If you have say www.foo.com email hosted
 with them, and your user bar has the email b...@foo.com AND has a
 personal google account (igoogle) registered using said b...@foo.com,
 then they will be forcibly combined come this fall. Other then this
 very evil move, they have been great. Since they opened up the GFYD I
 have setup 50+ domains and have not had issues or had to go back for
 anything really related to Google. Users tho, are users. I still
 recommend them and people have told me that if you talk with them
 upfront and show what you will be moving to them, they will work with
 you on price. If I ever decide to move away from google, I would move
 email back in house. The primary reason I moved was the data centers I
 had hosting in BOTH experienced extreme outages (one the power room
 blew up, the other had '3 physically redundant paths' taken out by the
 same backhoe). Google took 20 min to setup and restore working email
 services.

 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com 
 wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Nash
Unless I'm reading this incorrectly, Zimbra seems very full-featured and very 
pricey over time... I was looking at the appliances.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Baird 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


  Zimbra is ahead of all of those, and it is a complete system that scales very 
well and is based on open software.

  Regards
  Michael Baird

I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others.

martha

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter



On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
hard to use.

Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote:
We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
use.

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter

On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.



On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
Google.

Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom


On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.





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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:23:23AM -0700, Justin Mann wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider
 for about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased
 with their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it
 was a bit of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a
 choice we can stick with for a long time.

We migrated an acquired domain from Everyone.net to our server
running FreeBSD, Cyrus-IMAPd, Postfix, Squirrelmail and Roundcube
mail.  Everyone.net does way too much advertising to the users.

If you don't want to run your own, find a WISP you like nearby, or
not if you worry about competition, who does.  Pay them what you
have been paying Everyone.net.  Keep it in the family.  

60 domains with 1000 accounts is a pretty easy add to an existing
ISP style system, or a complete seperate (possibly virtual) mail
server.

-- 
Scott LambertKC5MLE   Unix SysAdmin
lamb...@lambertfam.org




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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Dennis Burgess
Justin,

You can host that on a small server of your own.  Other than the upkeep,
etc, its not expensive.  You can also give control of your domains to
your end users IT departments, so you don't have to reset a password etc
though a webased system.  WE offer servers including the
hardware/software preinstalled or we can install software for ya.  Shoot
me off-list if you are interested.  The software is well under 1k. 

---
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Mann
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:23 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting

Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.






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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Nash
That sounds attractive.  I made the ultimate decision to move to outsourced 
email due to one driving factor: fear.  Fear of losing our server and not 
having a backup, or having a backup that was too old.  Nightly backups of 
the mail server is just not enough.  With this many users, email is being 
delivered non-stop, so if you don't have up-to-the-moment mirroring, you've 
lost data when your server goes down.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


I use a fully redundant(2) mail server setup from Netwinsite.com  called
 Surgemail. It has a very good webmail interface, fast, and it runs on 
 Linux
 or Windows.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Lambert
 Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:23:23AM -0700, Justin Mann wrote:
 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider
 for about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased
 with their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it
 was a bit of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a
 choice we can stick with for a long time.

 We migrated an acquired domain from Everyone.net to our server
 running FreeBSD, Cyrus-IMAPd, Postfix, Squirrelmail and Roundcube
 mail.  Everyone.net does way too much advertising to the users.

 If you don't want to run your own, find a WISP you like nearby, or
 not if you worry about competition, who does.  Pay them what you
 have been paying Everyone.net.  Keep it in the family.

 60 domains with 1000 accounts is a pretty easy add to an existing
 ISP style system, or a complete seperate (possibly virtual) mail
 server.

 -- 
 Scott LambertKC5MLE   Unix 
 SysAdmin
 lamb...@lambertfam.org



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Layne Sisk
We use BlueTie and just recently migrated about 10,000 more users to
their service.  Tasks, calendaring, contacts, and up to 10G of storage.
We found it was cheaper than doing it in-house, and better.  You can get
a trial account at their website www.bluetie.com, and test it out.  If
you like it let me know and I can help you out with more info and
pricing.

-Layne

Layne Sisk
www.ServerPlus.com



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Mann
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:23 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting

Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for

about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with 
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit

of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can 
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user

range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service 
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for 
business? It is one among several we are considering.






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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Nash
Their demo of their web client looks awesome...

What's the pricing like?  We're paying $.35 to $.45 for accounts now.

Per domain branding?  How was the migration?

- Original Message - 
From: Layne Sisk la...@serverplus.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting


 We use BlueTie and just recently migrated about 10,000 more users to
 their service.  Tasks, calendaring, contacts, and up to 10G of storage.
 We found it was cheaper than doing it in-house, and better.  You can get
 a trial account at their website www.bluetie.com, and test it out.  If
 you like it let me know and I can help you out with more info and
 pricing.

 -Layne

 Layne Sisk
 www.ServerPlus.com



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Justin Mann
 Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:23 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting

 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for

 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit

 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user

 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
  Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, 
Thunderbird, etc.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 9/21/2010 11:44 AM, Justin Mann wrote:
 What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
 are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
 email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
 the older web clients we were used to.



 On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
 But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
 Google.

 Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
 market to yours and our customers.

 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet   Telecom


 On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
  I'm working on moving to Zimbra.

-
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http://www.ics-il.com



On 9/21/2010 11:57 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is
 hard to use.

 Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it
 and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizengamar...@dcaccess.net  wrote:
 We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to
 use.

 Martha Huizenga
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 202-546-5898
 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
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 On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

 What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We
 are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an
 email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than
 the older web clients we were used to.



 On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

 We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers
 But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before
 Google.

 Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't
 market to yours and our customers.

 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet   Telecom


 On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:


 Hello,

 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
 their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
 of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
 stick with for a long time.

 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
 range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
 reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
 business? It is one among several we are considering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread RickG
Josh,

Do you have a link for that. I looked but all I found were fee services.
Thanks!

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 I've used Gmail for a couple of years now.  No cost, no issues.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Justin Mann
 justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
  about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
  their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
  of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
  stick with for a long time.
 
  What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
  range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
  reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
  business? It is one among several we are considering.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
There is not a free Google Partner edition any longer.  Josh got in on a
period when it was free, and loves to brag about it!  Once he gets passed
his alloted accounts, it won't be free any longer (I have some domains under
it as well when it was free, but not my primary ISP domains).  There is
Google Standard that is free for a limited (50) number of email accounts.
 We just signed up with Google Partner edition this past month,
.32/user/mth.  It has more options for migration and for other things than
the standard edition does.  s...@ikano.com is Shaun's email account if you
are interested in signing up with them.

And yes, we also got the notice that the Apps accounts for email, are going
to be migrated to all of the other Google services.

Regards,

Chuck


On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:38 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Josh,

 Do you have a link for that. I looked but all I found were fee services.
 Thanks!


 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I've used Gmail for a couple of years now.  No cost, no issues.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Justin Mann
 justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
  about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with
  their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit
  of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can
  stick with for a long time.
 
  What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
  range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
  reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
  business? It is one among several we are considering.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Robert West
Email?  I stopped with the email long ago however, we have some that INSIST
on it so we just add them to our email account on our host.  We pay a whole
100 bucks for a shared hosting account at IX Hosting.  If they want email,
we just add it to our unlimited' accounts for a 5 buck a month charge.




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Mann
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:23 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting

Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with their
service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit of a shot
in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can stick with for
a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for
business? It is one among several we are considering.






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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Glenn Kelley
Bob 

Just imagine when a customer sends out an email asking for someone to renew 
their credit card or something else - and uses your domain... and sends it to 
your customer(s)

I know a few this has happened with.  

It is always best to use something different.

just my 2 cents. 



On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Robert West wrote:

 Email?  I stopped with the email long ago however, we have some that INSIST
 on it so we just add them to our email account on our host.  We pay a whole
 100 bucks for a shared hosting account at IX Hosting.  If they want email,
 we just add it to our unlimited' accounts for a 5 buck a month charge.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Justin Mann
 Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:23 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting
 
 Hello,
 
 We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for
 about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with their
 service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit of a shot
 in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can stick with for
 a long time.
 
 What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

2010-09-21 Thread Scott Carullo
Buy your own smartermail license or have someone with extra capacity like 
me do it for you

just make sure if you do it you pay for all the extras to reduce spam and 
viruses otherwise you are going to have a bad experience.

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Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting

Hello,

We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for 
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with 
their service and have decided to make a change.  Last time it was a bit 
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can 
stick with for a long time.

What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user 
range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service 
reliability.  Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-30 Thread Curtis Maurand

Don't use the tucows link, you won't find what you're looking for.  Try 
www.opensrs.com

Cheers,
Curtis

On 3/29/2010 12:37 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 www.tucows.com

 Elliot is one of us!
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting



 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current
 service is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back
 in-house.  I only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage,
 bandwidth, and backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an
 affordable easy to transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I
 know Google has a service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell
 me that it is the perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able
 to give some clients an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or
 Blackberry) for more money and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-30 Thread Steve Barnes
Thanks you are right I could not find it

Steve Barnes
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting


Don't use the tucows link, you won't find what you're looking for.  Try 
www.opensrs.com

Cheers,
Curtis

On 3/29/2010 12:37 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 www.tucows.com

 Elliot is one of us!
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting



 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current
 service is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back
 in-house.  I only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage,
 bandwidth, and backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an
 affordable easy to transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I
 know Google has a service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell
 me that it is the perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able
 to give some clients an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or
 Blackberry) for more money and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

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 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-29 Thread Curtis Maurand
I'm not sure that I'd want to give up my customer's data to a datamining 
company that is not interested in their privacy.

--C

On 3/26/2010 5:36 AM, Blair Davis wrote:
 got a link for more info on the ISP version of Gmail?

 Jerry Richardson wrote:
 We do. We love it, customers love it.

 -Original Message-
 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 Josh,
 Do you use Google's ISP solution?

 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  wrote:

 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  wrote:
  
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
 email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found
 myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
 accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
 that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
 subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
 insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
 and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
 Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know 
 it's
 cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
 really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
 local and even with that, the area already knows us.

 Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
 calls.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, 
 and
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
 service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
 perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
 an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
 and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

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 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
www.tucows.com

Elliot is one of us!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting


I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for 
updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current 
 service is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back 
 in-house.  I only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, 
 bandwidth, and backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an 
 affordable easy to transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I 
 know Google has a service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell 
 me that it is the perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able 
 to give some clients an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or 
 Blackberry) for more money and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Blair Davis




got a link for more info on the ISP version of Gmail?

Jerry Richardson wrote:

  We do. We love it, customers love it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Josh,
Do you use Google's ISP solution?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  
  
I use Gmail. Don't get those calls. Still get some revenue.

On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:


  I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services. I found
myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
that other stuff that I really had no time for.

I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done. If someone
insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
Simple and cheap. We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's
cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
local and even with that, the area already knows us.

Ah. The joy of not getting the "My emails not workin'" phone
calls.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
updates.

I am wondering what others are using for email hosting. My current service
is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house. I
only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails. Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and
backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget. I know Google has a
service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
perfect answer. I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
and everyone else just a regular pop.

Any recommendations?

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2010-03-26 Thread Steve Barnes
Who supports that.  Do you still have to or do you let Google.  Is there auto 
setup feature or do you have to set up all the clients.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

We do. We love it, customers love it.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Josh,
Do you use Google's ISP solution?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
 email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found
 myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
 accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
 that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
 subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
 insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
 and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
 Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's
 cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
 really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
 local and even with that, the area already knows us.

 Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
 calls.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
 service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
 perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
 an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
 and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

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 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html

We got in when it was free and got set up with 1000 accounts. If/when we need 
more we'll have to pay but I don't know the cost.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

got a link for more info on the ISP version of Gmail?

Jerry Richardson wrote:

We do. We love it, customers love it.



-Original Message-

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG

Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting



Josh,

Do you use Google's ISP solution?



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman

j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:



I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.



On 3/25/10, Robert West 
robert.w...@just-micro.commailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:



I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.



In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the

email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found

myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email

accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all

that other stuff that I really had no time for.



I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new

subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone

insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it

and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.

Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's

cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I

really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails

local and even with that, the area already knows us.



Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone

calls.



Bob-





-Original Message-

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of Steve Barnes

Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting



I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for

updates.



I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service

is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I

only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and

backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to

transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a

service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the

perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients

an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money

and everyone else just a regular pop.



Any recommendations?



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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
Here you go:
http://sites.google.com/a/ikano.com/partner-edition-google-apps-setup/what-is-google-apps-partner-edition/product-walk-through


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

The control panel is very slick. There is an import tool for creating all of 
your customer accounts. Old email can be migrated through the control panel 
using IMAP, or the customer can import their mail using POP3. You just need to 
leave your old server running and access itr via IP.

Your email URL is hosted by Google so if you co-ordinate it correctly it's a 
pretty smooth transition. we had to do it with a gun to our head as our iMail 
server failed and I had not completed the setup of the Google Hosted system 
(procrastination cost me).

Here is the instruction page for customer to activate and import their mail:

 Dear airCloud customer,
airCloud Communications has partnered with Google to bring you a host of 
powerful new features:

Gmailhttp://mail.aircloud.net/ ~ All of the features and functionality of a 
GMail account without having to change your email address, or lose your old 
emails.
Calendarhttp://calendar.aircloud.net/ ~ Organize your schedule and share 
events with friends. Sync email calendar, and tasks from one place 
Docshttp://docs.aircloud.net/ ~ Create and share your work online and access 
from any computer. Collaborate online Home Pagehttp://start.aircloud.net/ ~ 
Create a personalized start page with weather, mail, calendar, or other gadgets 
Mobilehttp://www.google.com/mobile/ ~ Access your email, calendar, and docs 
from your web-enabled phone. You can also sync your ActiveSync enabled phone

To access your email please log into the new server with your current username 
and password at http://mail.aircloud.nethttp://mail.aircloud.net/. You can 
contact supp...@aircloud.commailto:supp...@aircloud.com to have your old 
emails migrated to the new server once you have logged in and activated your 
new account.

POP3 email users such as Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, 
Blackberry, etc will need to set up their account for POP access once your 
account has been activated.
- Log into the new server at the address above to activate your account
- Go to Settings -- Forwarding and POP and
1. Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on.
2. Select keep AirCloud Communications Mail's copy in the inbox
3. Configure your email client using the Configuration instructions


Unfortunately the old server does not have a mechanism to export your contact 
list. This is not really a major problem as Gmail allows you to search for 
emails using names and keywords so locating an email address on the new server 
is very simple.

We are very proud to be partnering with Google and are confident that once you 
start using the new server you will be very pleased with how well everything is 
laid out and all of the added features such as Calendar, Tasks, Chat, WebPages, 
Docs, and Mobile applications.




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 7:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Who supports that.  Do you still have to or do you let Google.  Is there auto 
setup feature or do you have to set up all the clients.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

We do. We love it, customers love it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Josh,
Do you use Google's ISP solution?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:
 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT 
 using the email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online 
 services.  I found myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail 
 from stagnant email accounts every few months and dealing with the 
 mail server, backups and all that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to 
 the new subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  
 If someone insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 
 bucks a month for it and add it to our

Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Google Apps Partner Edition has a .35/box/month *starting *price.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
wrote:
 Here you go:

http://sites.google.com/a/ikano.com/partner-edition-google-apps-setup/what-is-google-apps-partner-edition/product-walk-through


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 The control panel is very slick. There is an import tool for creating all
of your customer accounts. Old email can be migrated through the control
panel using IMAP, or the customer can import their mail using POP3. You just
need to leave your old server running and access itr via IP.

 Your email URL is hosted by Google so if you co-ordinate it correctly it's
a pretty smooth transition. we had to do it with a gun to our head as our
iMail server failed and I had not completed the setup of the Google Hosted
system (procrastination cost me).

 Here is the instruction page for customer to activate and import their
mail:

  Dear airCloud customer,
 airCloud Communications has partnered with Google to bring you a host of
powerful new features:

 Gmailhttp://mail.aircloud.net/ ~ All of the features and functionality
of a GMail account without having to change your email address, or lose your
old emails.
 Calendarhttp://calendar.aircloud.net/ ~ Organize your schedule and share
events with friends. Sync email calendar, and tasks from one place Docs
http://docs.aircloud.net/ ~ Create and share your work online and access
from any computer. Collaborate online Home Pagehttp://start.aircloud.net/
~ Create a personalized start page with weather, mail, calendar, or other
gadgets Mobilehttp://www.google.com/mobile/ ~ Access your email, calendar,
and docs from your web-enabled phone. You can also sync your ActiveSync
enabled phone

 To access your email please log into the new server with your current
username and password at http://mail.aircloud.nethttp://mail.aircloud.net/.
You can contact supp...@aircloud.commailto:supp...@aircloud.com to have
your old emails migrated to the new server once you have logged in and
activated your new account.

 POP3 email users such as Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird,
Blackberry, etc will need to set up their account for POP access once your
account has been activated.
 - Log into the new server at the address above to activate your account
 - Go to Settings -- Forwarding and POP and
1. Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on.
2. Select keep AirCloud Communications Mail's copy in the inbox
3. Configure your email client using the Configuration
instructions


 Unfortunately the old server does not have a mechanism to export your
contact list. This is not really a major problem as Gmail allows you to
search for emails using names and keywords so locating an email address on
the new server is very simple.

 We are very proud to be partnering with Google and are confident that once
you start using the new server you will be very pleased with how well
everything is laid out and all of the added features such as Calendar,
Tasks, Chat, WebPages, Docs, and Mobile applications.




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 7:04 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 Who supports that.  Do you still have to or do you let Google.  Is there
auto setup feature or do you have to set up all the clients.

 Steve Barnes
 Manager
 PCS-WIN
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 We do. We love it, customers love it.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 Josh,
 Do you use Google's ISP solution?

 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT
 using the email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online
 services.  I found myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail
 from stagnant email accounts

Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
I guess it depend on how lean you want to run. The less systems I have to 
maintain, rebuild, or even think about the more time I can spend selling. 

To me .35/box is a pretty decent price for 
- multiple redundant servers 
- multiple colos 
- army of tweaks maintaining the system
- world-class spam and AV
- Google Apps 
- Partnering with the 800lb Gorilla



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Google Apps Partner Edition has a .35/box/month *starting *price.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
wrote:
 Here you go:

http://sites.google.com/a/ikano.com/partner-edition-google-apps-setup/what-is-google-apps-partner-edition/product-walk-through


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 The control panel is very slick. There is an import tool for creating all
of your customer accounts. Old email can be migrated through the control
panel using IMAP, or the customer can import their mail using POP3. You just
need to leave your old server running and access itr via IP.

 Your email URL is hosted by Google so if you co-ordinate it correctly it's
a pretty smooth transition. we had to do it with a gun to our head as our
iMail server failed and I had not completed the setup of the Google Hosted
system (procrastination cost me).

 Here is the instruction page for customer to activate and import their
mail:

  Dear airCloud customer,
 airCloud Communications has partnered with Google to bring you a host of
powerful new features:

 Gmailhttp://mail.aircloud.net/ ~ All of the features and functionality
of a GMail account without having to change your email address, or lose your
old emails.
 Calendarhttp://calendar.aircloud.net/ ~ Organize your schedule and share
events with friends. Sync email calendar, and tasks from one place Docs
http://docs.aircloud.net/ ~ Create and share your work online and access
from any computer. Collaborate online Home Pagehttp://start.aircloud.net/
~ Create a personalized start page with weather, mail, calendar, or other
gadgets Mobilehttp://www.google.com/mobile/ ~ Access your email, calendar,
and docs from your web-enabled phone. You can also sync your ActiveSync
enabled phone

 To access your email please log into the new server with your current
username and password at http://mail.aircloud.nethttp://mail.aircloud.net/.
You can contact supp...@aircloud.commailto:supp...@aircloud.com to have
your old emails migrated to the new server once you have logged in and
activated your new account.

 POP3 email users such as Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird,
Blackberry, etc will need to set up their account for POP access once your
account has been activated.
 - Log into the new server at the address above to activate your account
 - Go to Settings -- Forwarding and POP and
1. Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on.
2. Select keep AirCloud Communications Mail's copy in the inbox
3. Configure your email client using the Configuration
instructions


 Unfortunately the old server does not have a mechanism to export your
contact list. This is not really a major problem as Gmail allows you to
search for emails using names and keywords so locating an email address on
the new server is very simple.

 We are very proud to be partnering with Google and are confident that once
you start using the new server you will be very pleased with how well
everything is laid out and all of the added features such as Calendar,
Tasks, Chat, WebPages, Docs, and Mobile applications.




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 7:04 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 Who supports that.  Do you still have to or do you let Google.  Is there
auto setup feature or do you have to set up all the clients.

 Steve Barnes
 Manager
 PCS-WIN
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 We do. We love it, customers love it.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Larry Yunker

I don't know what Google's ISP solution is, but I decided long ago that
google provides me better spam filtering than I can possibly hope to
maintain in house.  Let's face it, gmail handles such a large volume of
email, it can much more accurately identify and filter out junk based on
pattern recognition, dead-end boxes, etc. than any independent ISP can hope
to find.

So, I still use my own email accounts, but they all get filtered through a
gmail account (either through aliases or forwarding rules) before I ever
pick up my mail.  

The nice part about this solution is that it enables me to continue to
assign common aliases - like sales, service, support, etc., I have
personalized email with my own domain name, and if I wanted to, I could
still drop in rules in the mail server to trigger automated processes based
on email source or content.  Using gmail in conjunction with your own email
server is the best of both worlds - all the control, but a lot less hassle.

- Larry


 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

We do. We love it, customers love it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Josh,
Do you use Google's ISP solution?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using
the
 email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I
found
 myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
 accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and
all
 that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the
new
 subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
 insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for
it
 and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting
company.
 Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know
it's
 cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
 really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
 local and even with that, the area already knows us.

 Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
 calls.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current
service
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.
 I
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth,
and
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy
to
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
 service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
 perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some
clients
 an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more
money
 and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service





 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-26 Thread Layne Sisk
We do email hosting at .20 per account, 10Gig accounts.  

-Layne

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext. 102

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

I guess it depend on how lean you want to run. The less systems I have
to maintain, rebuild, or even think about the more time I can spend
selling. 

To me .35/box is a pretty decent price for 
- multiple redundant servers 
- multiple colos 
- army of tweaks maintaining the system
- world-class spam and AV
- Google Apps 
- Partnering with the 800lb Gorilla



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Google Apps Partner Edition has a .35/box/month *starting *price.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue
that counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com
wrote:
 Here you go:

http://sites.google.com/a/ikano.com/partner-edition-google-apps-setup/wh
at-is-google-apps-partner-edition/product-walk-through


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 The control panel is very slick. There is an import tool for creating
all
of your customer accounts. Old email can be migrated through the control
panel using IMAP, or the customer can import their mail using POP3. You
just
need to leave your old server running and access itr via IP.

 Your email URL is hosted by Google so if you co-ordinate it correctly
it's
a pretty smooth transition. we had to do it with a gun to our head as
our
iMail server failed and I had not completed the setup of the Google
Hosted
system (procrastination cost me).

 Here is the instruction page for customer to activate and import their
mail:

  Dear airCloud customer,
 airCloud Communications has partnered with Google to bring you a host
of
powerful new features:

 Gmailhttp://mail.aircloud.net/ ~ All of the features and
functionality
of a GMail account without having to change your email address, or lose
your
old emails.
 Calendarhttp://calendar.aircloud.net/ ~ Organize your schedule and
share
events with friends. Sync email calendar, and tasks from one place Docs
http://docs.aircloud.net/ ~ Create and share your work online and
access
from any computer. Collaborate online Home
Pagehttp://start.aircloud.net/
~ Create a personalized start page with weather, mail, calendar, or
other
gadgets Mobilehttp://www.google.com/mobile/ ~ Access your email,
calendar,
and docs from your web-enabled phone. You can also sync your ActiveSync
enabled phone

 To access your email please log into the new server with your current
username and password at
http://mail.aircloud.nethttp://mail.aircloud.net/.
You can contact supp...@aircloud.commailto:supp...@aircloud.com to
have
your old emails migrated to the new server once you have logged in and
activated your new account.

 POP3 email users such as Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express,
Thunderbird,
Blackberry, etc will need to set up their account for POP access once
your
account has been activated.
 - Log into the new server at the address above to activate your
account
 - Go to Settings -- Forwarding and POP and
1. Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on.
2. Select keep AirCloud Communications Mail's copy in the
inbox
3. Configure your email client using the Configuration
instructions


 Unfortunately the old server does not have a mechanism to export your
contact list. This is not really a major problem as Gmail allows you to
search for emails using names and keywords so locating an email address
on
the new server is very simple.

 We are very proud to be partnering with Google and are confident that
once
you start using the new server you will be very pleased with how well
everything is laid out and all of the added features such as Calendar,
Tasks, Chat, WebPages, Docs, and Mobile applications.




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 7:04 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 Who supports that.  Do you still have to or do you let Google.  Is
there
auto setup feature or do you have to set up all the clients.

 Steve Barnes
 Manager
 PCS-WIN
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Jerry

Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread Jeremie Chism
Fasthosts.com. 50.00/month unlimited domains and unlimited standard  
email accounts. Not saying that is the beat solution, just what we  
use. Completely white label if you get all the extras that have one  
time costs.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking  
 for updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current  
 service is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought  
 back in-house.  I only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.   
 Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and backup are all too much of a pain  
 I would just prefer an affordable easy to transfer to service that  
 doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a service but I have not  
 been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the perfect answer.  I  
 would also like a option to be able to give some clients an Exchange  
 type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money and  
 everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread Jeremie Chism
Oh, and they have exchange also.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking  
 for updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current  
 service is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought  
 back in-house.  I only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.   
 Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and backup are all too much of a pain  
 I would just prefer an affordable easy to transfer to service that  
 doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a service but I have not  
 been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the perfect answer.  I  
 would also like a option to be able to give some clients an Exchange  
 type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money and  
 everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread Robert West
I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found
myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
that other stuff that I really had no time for.

I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's
cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
local and even with that, the area already knows us.  

Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
calls.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
updates.

I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service
is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I
only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and
backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
and everyone else just a regular pop.

Any recommendations?

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service





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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
 email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found
 myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
 accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
 that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
 subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
 insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
 and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
 Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's
 cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
 really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
 local and even with that, the area already knows us.

 Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
 calls.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
 service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
 perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
 an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
 and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread RickG
After trying in-house and other hosting for years I finally ended up
at surpasshosting.com about 5 years ago. They use WHM and CPanel, have
very few issues and quick responses when they do. They are not the
cheapest but not expensive either. While in Florida, I visited their
twin data centers. Done very professional.
-RickG

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for 
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service 
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I 
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and 
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to 
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a service 
 but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the perfect 
 answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients an 
 Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money and 
 everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread RickG
Josh,
Do you use Google's ISP solution?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
 email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found
 myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
 accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
 that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
 subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
 insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
 and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
 Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's
 cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
 really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
 local and even with that, the area already knows us.

 Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
 calls.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
 service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
 perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
 an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
 and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2010-03-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
We do. We love it, customers love it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Josh,
Do you use Google's ISP solution?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I use Gmail.  Don't get those calls.  Still get some revenue.

 On 3/25/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I dumped email hosting a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

 In my situation, I found that over 2 thirds of the subs WERE NOT using the
 email but were with mostly Yahoo and a few other online services.  I found
 myself having to deal with cleaning out junk mail from stagnant email
 accounts every few months and dealing with the mail server, backups and all
 that other stuff that I really had no time for.

 I kept the users who were on the system, stopped assigning email to the new
 subs and eventually we had zero mail users and I was done.  If someone
 insists on mail, I'll assign one and charge an extra 5 bucks a month for it
 and add it to our domain which we now just host with a webhosting company.
 Simple and cheap.  We've all had this discussion before and yes, I know it's
 cool to have your service name in emails being sent out all over but I
 really get no advertisement from that unless they are sending the emails
 local and even with that, the area already knows us.

 Ah.  The joy of not getting the My emails not workin' phone
 calls.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting

 I know that this has been discussed here last year but I am looking for
 updates.

 I am wondering what others are using for email hosting.  My current service
 is low grade at best and I really do not want it brought back in-house.  I
 only have about 500 Subs and 300 emails.  Filtering, storage, bandwidth, and
 backup are all too much of a pain I would just prefer an affordable easy to
 transfer to service that doesn't kill my budget.  I know Google has a
 service but I have not been able to get anyone to tell me that it is the
 perfect answer.  I would also like a option to be able to give some clients
 an Exchange type of account, (sync to outlook or Blackberry) for more money
 and everyone else just a regular pop.

 Any recommendations?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2006-05-17 Thread Ross Cornett

Talk to me off list.  I can provide if reasonably.

Ross
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Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting



List,

   Anyone know a good place to out-source email hosting to? 


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Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

2006-05-17 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, May 17, 2006 12:09 pm, Jason wrote:

 Anyone know a good place to out-source email hosting to?

Contact me offlist, I can probably whip something up, depending on how
many addresses you have.

Gmail has this in beta, but I think you're only allowed 40 or so email
addresses per domain. Also, comedy Hosted Hotmail option (they seriously
do offer this, I don't have the link handy but I could dig it up). If you
want a squillion ads and 2MB mailboxes, though, it's there.

David Smith
MVN.net
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