Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-29 Thread Blair Davis
Always! I go get a GPS reading and take a look at the location before I try to plot it out Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've used Topo USA quite a bit. But in the end, going to the site is the best way. We've made links work that I'd have sworn didn't stand a chance. And others that

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread David E. Smith
Brian Webster wrote: When you map is displayed the way you want it to look, do a control c then control v and save the new image created as whatever you want to call it, that will make the units stay within the image. Copy and paste as new map from the menu also works. That may not be the

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've used Topo USA quite a bit. But in the end, going to the site is the best way. We've made links work that I'd have sworn didn't stand a chance. And others that should be a slam dunk work like crap. Feet on the ground. marlon - Original Message - From: Robert West

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
, sorry. You want a wish list? Grab some paper, pal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Chuck Bartosch
...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Marlon used Brian Webster. Chuck On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Not to be repetitive, but you are describing RadioMobile John

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-28 Thread Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-26 Thread Scott Reed
Come on Biran, that is way too easy. Would would think to do that? Is there anything Roger hasn't put in that program? Brian Webster wrote: When you map is displayed the way you want it to look, do a control c then control v and save the new image created as whatever you want to call it,

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
I'll shoot him an email. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Why not contract

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
the interruptions. That's my biggest issue! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Crash course: First

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Crash course: First uninstall anything to do with Radio Mobile Next download and install Radio Mobile Deluxe: http

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software So how do I find out what the USGS regions are in order to choose the correct one? I remember being here before and this is pretty much where I gave it up. I can't find it on their maps anywhere. I'm in Ohio, by the way. Thanks! Bob

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:06 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software So how do I find out what the USGS regions are in order to choose the correct one? I remember being here before and this is pretty much where I gave it up. I can't find

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Crash course: First uninstall anything to do with Radio Mobile Next download and install Radio Mobile Deluxe: http

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread David E. Smith
Since we're sorta turning this into a general Radio Mobile questions thread... Anyone know how to tell Radio Mobile, when you save a map, to save units as drawn on the map, as part of the picture? When you look at a map on-screen, you can have it overlay units on the map. When you save the

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
Thanks Mike. They make it so easy, these government operations. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Robert West
Smart ass. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software I Googled for SRTM, went to the first link

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-25 Thread Scott Reed
On clarification, when you save a map, RM does not save the picture. Saving a picture is a separate function. If you save the picture as a JPG, it also creates a KML file. While the picture does not have the units which you can open the kml in Google Earth. If you have the units there as

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software I was holding this chunk of Organite and praying

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Josh Luthman
-- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:32 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software That's a lot of green...where is this? On 9/24/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Ryan Spott
I use National Geographic's Topo! software. It works quite well. Just toss the contents of the CD-ROM into the same folder as the software and you don't need the CD-ROM at all. ryan On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Chuck Bartosch
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Robert West wrote: What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan the build? I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I can't get that thing to work even with the step by step

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Chuck Bartosch
the rails here, sorry. You want a wish list? Grab some paper, pal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
Actually, that was me. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Marlon used Brian Webster

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Marlon used Brian Webster. Chuck On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Not to be repetitive, but you are describing RadioMobile John the RM Yahoo group and see if you can't

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
No worries :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Ah, my apologies! I guess I should have

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread RickG
I've done the same for years. The only thing I use RM for is the backhaul links. -RickG On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile.  Add the antenna

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread RickG
I've seen that too. It looked the same as Delorme. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: I use National Geographic's Topo! software. It works quite well. Just toss the contents of the CD-ROM into the same folder as the software and you don't need the CD-ROM at

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
] Link Planning Software I've done the same for years. The only thing I use RM for is the backhaul links. -RickG On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software No worries :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-24 Thread RickG
the formulas on this paper for us =) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Howdy WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working on a browser-based link planning tool as a semester project. It will be released as open-source at the end of the semester, so we'd like it to be useful not only for our projects but for the

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread David E. Smith
Robert West wrote: What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan the build? I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I can't get that thing to work even with the step by step instructions. I've been finding myself just plotting elevations all the way

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
the profiler Cameron has integrated into his Wispmon program. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working on a browser-based link planning tool as a semester project

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
, sorry. You want a wish list? Grab some paper, pal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Robert West wrote: What are you folks using to verify

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Radio Mobile is what I typically use, but I can't help but share this: LigoWave Link Calculator http://www.ligowave.com/linkcalc/main.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Hi Shaddi, You know what would be cool. Is a few things * Use the features of Radio Mobile as a basis for radio-propogation o SRTM3 Terrain Mapping o Flexible Radio Network Topology (VoiceNet, Master/Slave, etc,.) o Point to point link analysis o

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working on a browser-based link planning tool as a semester project. It will be released as open-source at the end

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software You know, I haven't a clue! It looks simple, heck yes! Everyone says it's easy but I'll be darned if I can't get anything out of it. Now you also have to understand, when I try to work with it I have 3 kids

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread richard sterne
one handed) From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software You know, I haven't a clue!  It looks simple, heck yes!  Everyone

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do that it will gel. Jerry Richardson

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
... Are you STILL up?! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software It takes 4hrs in the idle

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do that it will gel. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do that it will gel. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) From: Robert

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Doh. Forgot cant use HTML email and pasted

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Okay, I went through it here and getting the terrain maps is indeed the place where I give up. Anyone have a good step by step to get the map in the thing?? I totally believe the 4 hour thing. My issue is, every hour... Are you STILL up

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Scott Reed
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Howdy WISPA! Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC Chapel Hill are working

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
, September 23, 2009 9:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Doh. Forgot cant use HTML email and pasted images. I will see if I cant make a PDF guide or so on how to get terrain data. -Israel Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote: Actually... If you have

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread RickG
] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Robert West wrote: What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan the build?  I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
, September 23, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software I was holding this chunk of Organite and praying for such a thing and now here it is. Spooky. Get ready for the list, Shaddi. For one, this browser based software should not depend

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
-- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software I was holding this chunk of Organite and praying for such a thing and now here

Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

2009-09-23 Thread Blair Davis
It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4 Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile. Add the antenna heights and you should have a real good idea if it will work or not. I played with Radio Mobile for a long time. It works, but Delorm is faster and eaiser for PtP