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009 18:49:14 + > > >> Some MME info >> >> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol >> >> John >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, Februa

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reless_routing_protocol >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM >>>> To: e...@wisp

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>> Some MME info >> >> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol >> >> John >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM

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] >>Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM >>To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks >> >>Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this to begin >>with that worked really w

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Some MME info http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol John >-Original Message- >From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM >To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [W

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...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks There are pluses & minuses to each platform (Mikrotik & StarOS), but if you want simple, StarOS is it. -RickG On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matt Larsen - List

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oe > >Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:52:39 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > >Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys are talking >about when you say MT mesh: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds > >If so, I wo

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e to end users. Seems like you'd get a ghetto mesh for >~130/node. > >Thanks, >`S > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of Jerry Richardson >Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:08 PM >To: WIS

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-0800 >**sigh** So anyhow, about my chest hair.. > >`S > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of os10ru...@gmail.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:49 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re

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Well said David. I "learned" of Mikrotik about 3 years ago. There is so much, that I am still "learning." It is very useful for many things, more than I care to mention, for sure when it is many less than any other solution that can do what it does that it is available in the USA. Keep in m

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There are pluses & minuses to each platform (Mikrotik & StarOS), but if you want simple, StarOS is it. -RickG On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > Don't drink the Mikrotik kool-aid just yet. You should probably give > some consideration to StarOS. StarOS has an excell

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nal Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:26 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > hmmm. ice cream > > * -

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tions -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Jerry- Thanks - is the Engenius product no longer support

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Mr. Larsen, Thanks. I've heard very good things about StarOS as well. It certainly has it's devotees. But as you mentioned Valemount doesn't have the presence in the marketplace that Mikrotik has and that makes me wonder what kind of position Valemount will be in a number of years

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Don't drink the Mikrotik kool-aid just yet. You should probably give some consideration to StarOS. StarOS has an excellent industry standard mesh routing protocol built in - OLSR - and the popular X4000 platform is very low cost (~$350 or so in a four radio configuration). I tried Mikroti

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tik every since I first started using it almost hmm 7 years ago. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "John J. Thomas" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:36:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks You DO NOT have to use a CLI t

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t; >/Eje Gustafsson >CTO >WISP-Router, Inc >Bringing MikroTik to the masses since 2002. >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: os10ru...@gmail.com > >Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh

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d with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and >> outdoor selections). >> >> I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and >> there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you >> are getting! >> >> -Hal >> &g

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oaded with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and >> outdoor selections). >> >> I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and >> there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you >> are getting! >> >> -Hal >>

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with > the option to have them preloaded with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and > outdoor selections). > > I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and > there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you > are getting! > > -Hal &

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Or ice cream. :) -Original Message- From: Jack Unger Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:27:59 -0800 I think you are making the point that "mesh" is a very broad term; it's like &quo

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red uplink). That's my take on it. -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:40:46 -0430 Mr. Bledsoe, I've heard it said that WDS isn't

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that not all products are created equal and there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you are getting! -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Fe

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l List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Bledsoe, I've heard it said that WDS isn't the best option for mesh because under WDS each AP is going to repeat every packet regardless of the physical location and whether or not the data needs to pass that AP in order

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age- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430 Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanc

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is that not all products are created equal and > there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what > you > are getting! > > -Hal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: os10ru...@gmail.com > Reply-To: WISPA General List > To: WISPA Genera

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un...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks I just went through this exercise - spent hours looking at various options. Deliberant and Engenius are the two options I ar

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**sigh** So anyhow, about my chest hair.. `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess

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reated equal and there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you are getting! -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430 M

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Mr. Burgess and the others who responded - thanks! I just downloaded Winbox and I'll be trying it with the x86 version on an old PC first. Mikrotik seems inevitable if one's network progresses beyond the something very small and simple. Thanks for the push! Greg On Feb 17, 2009, at 11:08 AM

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t; -Original Message----- > From: os10ru...@gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > > Mr. Burgess, > > What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears > t

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The winbox interface will do everything you need in the mesh setup. If you want a turn key solution, its not what you are going to use. I can see that as you want something you plug in and it does magic, maybe. lol. There is no scripting that is needed in mikrotik, and like I said, you can u

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obile -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanced configur

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os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: > What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears > the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it > sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't > see an online repository of scripts for progra

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Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a high

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Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution. Been there done that and it works :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WIS

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A new movement started after Meraki turned to the "dark-side" a few years ago Open Mesh Picks Up Where Meraki Left Off As in, dirt cheap mesh networking gear for communities A new mesh-networking project by the co-founder of NetEquality and the developer of mesh-networking management software mi

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One more thing I forgot, if you want to use something that is more experimental, more do-it-yourself and which supports a greater variety of hardware there is OpenWRT's firmware with mesh and also http://nightwing.lugro-mesh.org.ar/en/ . These are options using routing options such as BATMAN/

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I haven't used this stuff but I've been researching it and have contacted the companies. One is some ready-made two radio (2.4ghz for clients, 5ghz for backhaul) mesh hardware from Wiligear http://www.wiligear.com/?q=products/mesh/wbd-212 which still requires to you package it up (enclosure

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MT and a consultant ;) /me laughing while running for cover Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in

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Ruckus now has a full outdoor radio that would work great for this... easy to manage and setup. But the cost will probably kill your budget (I think the full outdoor units cost around $1k or so... haven't seen the price on them yet). The controller would add some cost too. But it would be a high