Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, check the firmware versions you are using etc.

Does the slowdown only happen at the customers or at your noc too?

What client gear are you guys using?

What routers are the customers using?
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
To: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail


 Marlon.

 That's exactly how things are in our network. Speedtest look good but,
 once the client goes to Facebook and Hotmail things just don't work
 well.

 Any solution or suggestions?


 On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 11:22 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look great.  Google would load
 right up etc.  Reboot the router/radio and things would run fine for a
 little bit.

 Then try to go to MSN, Myspace, facebook etc. and things would die.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
 To: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail


 I don't use Facebook much but, I had to lately in order to test the
  problem. Is actually a little slow from time to time. All other pages
  load fine. That's what I don't understand.
 
  I found this about facebook:
 
  http://www.5starsocialnetwork.com/facebook-connection-problems/
 
  http://support.momentoapp.com/discussions/problems/106-problem-with-facebook-connection
 
  http://www.facebook.com/KnownIssues/posts/171845609509593
 
  I'm puzzled at all this and is really getting on my nerves. I have
  people complaining about it.
 
  Thanks.
 
  On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:26 -0500, RickG wrote:
  Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at
  your core?
 
  On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services
  wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:
  Hello.
 
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing
  facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on
  hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other
  people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We
  have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have
  about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already
  getting
  on me.
 
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems
  with these
  two websites.
 
  Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
  -- 
  -RickG
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Marlon.

That's exactly how things are in our network. Speedtest look good but,
once the client goes to Facebook and Hotmail things just don't work
well.

Any solution or suggestions?


On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 11:22 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look great.  Google would load 
 right up etc.  Reboot the router/radio and things would run fine for a 
 little bit.
 
 Then try to go to MSN, Myspace, facebook etc. and things would die.
 
 marlon
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
 To: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
 
 
 I don't use Facebook much but, I had to lately in order to test the
  problem. Is actually a little slow from time to time. All other pages
  load fine. That's what I don't understand.
 
  I found this about facebook:
 
  http://www.5starsocialnetwork.com/facebook-connection-problems/
 
  http://support.momentoapp.com/discussions/problems/106-problem-with-facebook-connection
 
  http://www.facebook.com/KnownIssues/posts/171845609509593
 
  I'm puzzled at all this and is really getting on my nerves. I have
  people complaining about it.
 
  Thanks.
 
  On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:26 -0500, RickG wrote:
  Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at
  your core?
 
  On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services
  wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:
  Hello.
 
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing
  facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on
  hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other
  people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We
  have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have
  about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already
  getting
  on me.
 
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems
  with these
  two websites.
 
  Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
  
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
  -- 
  -RickG
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 
 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-02 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Sounds like a MTU issue on the network.

You may want to check things by doing IP pings with specific packet size 
to determine this. (best to google for IP MTU issues, for more info).

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom

On 12/2/2010 10:21 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
 Marlon.

 That's exactly how things are in our network. Speedtest look good but,
 once the client goes to Facebook and Hotmail things just don't work
 well.

 Any solution or suggestions?


 On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 11:22 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look great.  Google would load
 right up etc.  Reboot the router/radio and things would run fine for a
 little bit.

 Then try to go to MSN, Myspace, facebook etc. and things would die.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Optimum Wireless Serviceswil...@optimumwireless.com
 To: RickGrgunder...@gmail.com
 Cc: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail


 I don't use Facebook much but, I had to lately in order to test the
 problem. Is actually a little slow from time to time. All other pages
 load fine. That's what I don't understand.

 I found this about facebook:

 http://www.5starsocialnetwork.com/facebook-connection-problems/

 http://support.momentoapp.com/discussions/problems/106-problem-with-facebook-connection

 http://www.facebook.com/KnownIssues/posts/171845609509593

 I'm puzzled at all this and is really getting on my nerves. I have
 people complaining about it.

 Thanks.

 On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:26 -0500, RickG wrote:
 Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at
 your core?

 On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wil...@optimumwireless.com  wrote:
  Hello.

  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing
  facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on
  hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other
  people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We
  have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have
  about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already
  getting
  on me.

  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems
  with these
  two websites.

  Thanks in advanced.



  
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 

  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



 --
 -RickG



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/





WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-02 Thread John Thomas
Have you looked at MTUs on the client PCs?

If they have Windows PCs, download TCP Optimizer and set the MTU down to 
1472 or less.
A lot of ADSL circuits use PPPoE and it adds overhead. By dropping the 
MTU to allow for the PPPoE overhead, things will start working. IF 
testing show that this makes a difference, you may need to adjust the 
MTU or MSS size in your edge router to 1472 or smaller.

John


On 12/2/2010 7:21 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
 Marlon.

 That's exactly how things are in our network. Speedtest look good but,
 once the client goes to Facebook and Hotmail things just don't work
 well.

 Any solution or suggestions?


 On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 11:22 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look great.  Google would load
 right up etc.  Reboot the router/radio and things would run fine for a
 little bit.

 Then try to go to MSN, Myspace, facebook etc. and things would die.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Optimum Wireless Serviceswil...@optimumwireless.com
 To: RickGrgunder...@gmail.com
 Cc: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail


 I don't use Facebook much but, I had to lately in order to test the
 problem. Is actually a little slow from time to time. All other pages
 load fine. That's what I don't understand.

 I found this about facebook:

 http://www.5starsocialnetwork.com/facebook-connection-problems/

 http://support.momentoapp.com/discussions/problems/106-problem-with-facebook-connection

 http://www.facebook.com/KnownIssues/posts/171845609509593

 I'm puzzled at all this and is really getting on my nerves. I have
 people complaining about it.

 Thanks.

 On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:26 -0500, RickG wrote:
 Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at
 your core?

 On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wil...@optimumwireless.com  wrote:
  Hello.

  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing
  facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on
  hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other
  people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We
  have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have
  about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already
  getting
  on me.

  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems
  with these
  two websites.

  Thanks in advanced.



  
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 

  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



 -- 
 -RickG


 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/






WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We had this with Tranzeo CPQ radios in router mode.  The new sites open too 
many streams and overwhelm the routers.

Starting to see some Linksys one's do it too.

Using the latest and greatest firmware fixed the problems.  Usually. 
Sometimes it's time to upgrade the hardware though.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:45 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail


 Hello.

 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
 on me.

 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
 two websites.

 Thanks in advanced.



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look great.  Google would load 
right up etc.  Reboot the router/radio and things would run fine for a 
little bit.

Then try to go to MSN, Myspace, facebook etc. and things would die.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
To: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail


I don't use Facebook much but, I had to lately in order to test the
 problem. Is actually a little slow from time to time. All other pages
 load fine. That's what I don't understand.

 I found this about facebook:

 http://www.5starsocialnetwork.com/facebook-connection-problems/

 http://support.momentoapp.com/discussions/problems/106-problem-with-facebook-connection

 http://www.facebook.com/KnownIssues/posts/171845609509593

 I'm puzzled at all this and is really getting on my nerves. I have
 people complaining about it.

 Thanks.

 On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:26 -0500, RickG wrote:
 Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at
 your core?

 On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:
 Hello.

 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing
 facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on
 hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other
 people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We
 have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have
 about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already
 getting
 on me.

 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems
 with these
 two websites.

 Thanks in advanced.



 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



 -- 
 -RickG



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-29 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
I disabled squid and noticed facebook worked fine but, after hours it
was the same: sluggish and slow. 

Matt can I just add an alias to my external network interface and do
something like you mentioned? Could it be nat?


On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:38 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 I don't know whether it helps or not, but we put in policy routes so 
 that every four or eight routed subnets were NATed out through a 
 different IP address.   Something like:
 
 192.168.248.0-192.168.255.0 goes out through 208.14.222.10
 192.168.240.0-192.168.247.0 goes out through 208.14.222.11
 etc etc
 
 Since putting these rules in, a lot of our NAT issues have gone away.
 We have a LOT of customers on Facebook and Hotmail, and they get very 
 vocal when stuff isn't working, so I know that it is working well for 
 the most part.
 
 This is on a StarOS NAT box, but we are going to be replacing it with 
 Mikrotik in another month or so.
 
 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com
 
 On 11/26/2010 9:16 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
  Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too.  I had to break
  it out better than what I had.  My issues were similar to what you're seeing
  - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites.  Was going over the
  max possible NAT connections.  I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the
  time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details.
 
  With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL
  connections.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services
  Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
 
  Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.
 
  Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
  Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
  squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
  videocache which needs squid.
 
  I'll let you know how things go from here.
 
 
  On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
 
 
 
  
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
  
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
  
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-29 Thread Blake Covarrubias
If you have a range of addresses available on your external interface you could 
use something like this.

/ip firewall nat
add chain=srcnat action=same to-addresses=192.0.2.2-192.0.2.10 
out-interface=ether1

--
Blake Covarrubias

On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:

 I disabled squid and noticed facebook worked fine but, after hours it
 was the same: sluggish and slow. 
 
 Matt can I just add an alias to my external network interface and do
 something like you mentioned? Could it be nat?
 
 
 On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:38 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 I don't know whether it helps or not, but we put in policy routes so 
 that every four or eight routed subnets were NATed out through a 
 different IP address.   Something like:
 
 192.168.248.0-192.168.255.0 goes out through 208.14.222.10
 192.168.240.0-192.168.247.0 goes out through 208.14.222.11
 etc etc
 
 Since putting these rules in, a lot of our NAT issues have gone away.
 We have a LOT of customers on Facebook and Hotmail, and they get very 
 vocal when stuff isn't working, so I know that it is working well for 
 the most part.
 
 This is on a StarOS NAT box, but we are going to be replacing it with 
 Mikrotik in another month or so.
 
 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com
 
 On 11/26/2010 9:16 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
 Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too.  I had to break
 it out better than what I had.  My issues were similar to what you're seeing
 - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites.  Was going over the
 max possible NAT connections.  I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the
 time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details.
 
 With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL
 connections.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
 
 Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.
 
 Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
 Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
 squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
 videocache which needs squid.
 
 I'll let you know how things go from here.
 
 
 On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
 
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
I'm suspecting squid might be the problem. I disabled squid and I'm just
forwarding and things look better. Now, I will test it this evening when
more people are connected.

Without squid I'm able to throttle upload traffic so, that might be
another reason why things may work better.


On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:57 -0800, Chuck Profito wrote:
 Agreed, everyone gets different photo and messages depending who their
 associated to. it would probably drive the squid nuts, especially when FB is
 busy and slow and squid is trying to compare.  
 BTW, Watch out on not controlling the upload, one sub ftp'ing  out or P2P
 could kill your full download.  I'm guessing, but, you are probably only 1/2
 duplex.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:08 AM
 To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
 
 Could be your squid cache. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone4
 
 On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:
 
  Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
  bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
  things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
  but, not really good. 
  
  Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
  running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
  able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.
  
  You still think I need to add another line?
  
  
  On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
  I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
  customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
  at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
  
  Travis
  Microserv
  
  
  On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
  Hello.
  
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
  on me.
  
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
  two websites.
  
  Thanks in advanced.
  
  
  
 
 
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
  
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
  
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
  
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
  
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Matt
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120

Just curious, do you NAT everyone?



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.

Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
videocache which needs squid.

I'll let you know how things go from here.


On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 
 Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Jeremie Chism
Butch Evans QOS might help to if you are using mikrotik. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Optimum Wireless Services 
wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:

 Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.
 
 Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
 Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
 squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
 videocache which needs squid.
 
 I'll let you know how things go from here.
 
 
 On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 
 Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Jason Hensley
Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too.  I had to break
it out better than what I had.  My issues were similar to what you're seeing
- just really unpredictable behavior from some sites.  Was going over the
max possible NAT connections.  I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the
time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details.  

With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL
connections.  




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.

Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
videocache which needs squid.

I'll let you know how things go from here.


On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 
 Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
 
 



 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/



  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/





WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/


 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
I'm not using MikroTik for the gw. I'm running it on a Debian Lenny box
with an iptables script. Look into tcp max connections maybe?


On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:16 -0600, Jason Hensley wrote:
 Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too.  I had to break
 it out better than what I had.  My issues were similar to what you're seeing
 - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites.  Was going over the
 max possible NAT connections.  I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the
 time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details.  
 
 With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL
 connections.  
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
 
 Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.
 
 Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
 Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
 squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
 videocache which needs squid.
 
 I'll let you know how things go from here.
 
 
 On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
   profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
   5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  
  Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
  
  
 
 
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
   
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
  
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
  
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-26 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I don't know whether it helps or not, but we put in policy routes so 
that every four or eight routed subnets were NATed out through a 
different IP address.   Something like:

192.168.248.0-192.168.255.0 goes out through 208.14.222.10
192.168.240.0-192.168.247.0 goes out through 208.14.222.11
etc etc

Since putting these rules in, a lot of our NAT issues have gone away.
We have a LOT of customers on Facebook and Hotmail, and they get very 
vocal when stuff isn't working, so I know that it is working well for 
the most part.

This is on a StarOS NAT box, but we are going to be replacing it with 
Mikrotik in another month or so.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 11/26/2010 9:16 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
 Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too.  I had to break
 it out better than what I had.  My issues were similar to what you're seeing
 - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites.  Was going over the
 max possible NAT connections.  I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the
 time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details.

 With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL
 connections.




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

 Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.

 Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
 Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
 squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
 videocache which needs squid.

 I'll let you know how things go from here.


 On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 Just curious, do you NAT everyone?



 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/

 
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/





WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Travis Johnson
I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).

Travis
Microserv


On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
 Hello.

 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
 on me.

 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
 two websites.

 Thanks in advanced.



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Chuck Hogg
For roughly 2k customers, we peak at 90Mbit...depends on your packages...I
know when we got to 100 customers we started looking at 10M DIAthat
lasted till about 300 customers.
Regards,

Chuck


On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

 I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120
 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it
 at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).

 Travis
 Microserv


 On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
  Hello.
 
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
  on me.
 
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
  two websites.
 
  Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
 
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/

 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
No issues here. Are you graphing your dsl lines for latency and traffic?

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Nov 25, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Optimum Wireless Services 
wil...@optimumwireless.com 
  wrote:

 Hello.

 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
 on me.

 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
 two websites.

 Thanks in advanced.



 --- 
 --- 
 --- 
 --- 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 --- 
 --- 
 --- 
 --- 
 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread RickG
Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at your
core?

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services 
wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:

 Hello.

 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
 on me.

 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
 two websites.

 Thanks in advanced.




 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/

 

 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




-- 
-RickG



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
but, not really good. 

Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.

You still think I need to add another line?


On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
 at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
 
 Travis
 Microserv
 
 
 On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
  Hello.
 
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
  on me.
 
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
  two websites.
 
  Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
I don't use Facebook much but, I had to lately in order to test the
problem. Is actually a little slow from time to time. All other pages
load fine. That's what I don't understand.

I found this about facebook:

http://www.5starsocialnetwork.com/facebook-connection-problems/

http://support.momentoapp.com/discussions/problems/106-problem-with-facebook-connection

http://www.facebook.com/KnownIssues/posts/171845609509593

I'm puzzled at all this and is really getting on my nerves. I have
people complaining about it.

Thanks.

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 13:26 -0500, RickG wrote:
 Have you seen the actual problem for yourself? If so, does it do it at
 your core?
 
 On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing
 facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on
 hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other
 people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We
 have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have
 about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already
 getting
 on me.
 
 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems
 with these
 two websites.
 
 Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 -- 
 -RickG




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Jeremie Chism
Could be your squid cache. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Optimum Wireless Services 
wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:

 Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
 bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
 things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
 but, not really good. 
 
 Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
 running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
 able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.
 
 You still think I need to add another line?
 
 
 On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
 at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
 
 Travis
 Microserv
 
 
 On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
 on me.
 
 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
 two websites.
 
 Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Chuck Profito
Agreed, everyone gets different photo and messages depending who their
associated to. it would probably drive the squid nuts, especially when FB is
busy and slow and squid is trying to compare.  
BTW, Watch out on not controlling the upload, one sub ftp'ing  out or P2P
could kill your full download.  I'm guessing, but, you are probably only 1/2
duplex.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:08 AM
To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

Could be your squid cache. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Optimum Wireless Services
wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:

 Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
 bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
 things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
 but, not really good. 
 
 Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
 running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
 able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.
 
 You still think I need to add another line?
 
 
 On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
 at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
 
 Travis
 Microserv
 
 
 On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
 and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
 entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
 profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
 on me.
 
 Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
 two websites.
 
 Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 



 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/



 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 



 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/



 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/


 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
It makes sense. But, according to the squid-user mailing list is not a
problem with squid. I haven't test it without squid yet. I'll have to
wait until the weekend to work on that.

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving day to everyone!

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:57 -0800, Chuck Profito wrote:
 Agreed, everyone gets different photo and messages depending who their
 associated to. it would probably drive the squid nuts, especially when FB is
 busy and slow and squid is trying to compare.  
 BTW, Watch out on not controlling the upload, one sub ftp'ing  out or P2P
 could kill your full download.  I'm guessing, but, you are probably only 1/2
 duplex.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:08 AM
 To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
 
 Could be your squid cache. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone4
 
 On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote:
 
  Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
  bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
  things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
  but, not really good. 
  
  Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
  running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
  able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.
  
  You still think I need to add another line?
  
  
  On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
  I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
  customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
  at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
  
  Travis
  Microserv
  
  
  On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
  Hello.
  
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
  on me.
  
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
  two websites.
  
  Thanks in advanced.
  
  
  
 
 
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
  
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
  
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
  
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
  
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 
 
 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/
 
  
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-11-25 Thread Stuart Pierce
15megs for 120 people, obviously depending on packages, should be enough.

-- Original Message --
From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
Reply-To: wil...@optimumwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:28:15 -0400

Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
but, not really good. 

Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.

You still think I need to add another line?


On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
 at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
 
 Travis
 Microserv
 
 
 On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
  Hello.
 
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
  on me.
 
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
  two websites.
 
  Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
  
  WISPA Wants You! Join today!
  http://signup.wispa.org/
  
 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

 





Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net


 
   



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/