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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:51 PM
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So it could work on a licensed or ham radio link that is pumping out 50+
watts?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
wrote:
I've tried it a couple of times
, June 09, 2010 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
So it could work on a licensed or ham radio link that is pumping out 50+
watts?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
wrote:
I've tried it a couple of times and never had enough signal to make
Cutting too many corners on backhaul is like cutting too many corners on
brakes or tires.
I used the ah boards for everything. More processor and memory etc.
I just put in a backhaul link that pulled over 30 megs both ways on a 6 or
so mile shot. My cost on it was under $800.
When I bought
The question then becomes, would you spend $800 for a one sub repeater?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
Cutting too many corners on backhaul is like cutting too many corners on
brakes or tires.
I used the ah boards for everything. More processor
Barnes st...@pcswin.com
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Ok I have never even thought about doing this. Does it actually work? This
sounds WAY to simple.
A 29Db Grid on a Grain Leg pointed at the AP that has a -68
Nope. But my 1 sub customer's have! grin
marlon
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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
The question then becomes, would you spend $800 for a one sub repeater
still only see a receive signal of about -114.
Near as I can tell this only works well if you have a LOT of power.
marlon
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From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
You are absolutely right. A quarter wave feed line
Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:03 AM
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You are absolutely right. A quarter wave feed line is an impedance inverter.
If my 1/4 wave multiples were even numbered the same effect would be found.
(2 x 1/4 wave = half wave) A half wave feed
, 2010 12:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
You are absolutely right. A quarter wave feed line is an impedance inverter.
If my 1/4 wave multiples were even numbered the same effect would be found.
(2 x 1/4 wave = half wave) A half wave feed is an impedance repeater. I
to me?
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:06 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
I think something like
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
So with two 2.4 24 dbi Grid
Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
I think something like this would help:
http
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:01 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Repeater
I have avoided repeaters like the plague
Steve, I have been having very good luck with the new generation of
Deliberant radios. http://deliberant.com/landing/deliberant_products.aspx
Friendly Regards,
Mike
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Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent:
...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Steve Barnes
AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:01 AM
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, 2010 9:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:01 AM
To: WISPA
Steve:
I don't think you're going to get much cheaper than what you said below,
but here's a try.
Nanostation M/Nanostation Loco M for the AP, Bullet/Nano for the
Backhaul. The Nanostation M's have a software enabled POE 2nd port.
Run one cable up, then Port 2 POE to the Bullet. Choose your
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks for the advice guys on the Deliberant. However, Last thing I really
want to do is learn another radio system.
Really hoping for a MT or UBNT option.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Steve:
I don't think you're going to get much cheaper than what you said below, but
here's a try.
Nanostation M/Nanostation Loco M for the AP, Bullet/Nano for the Backhaul. The
Nanostation M's have a software enabled POE 2nd port.
Run one cable up, then Port 2 POE
specs perfectly.
Friendly Regards,
Mike
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks for the advice guys
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks Chuck you also forgot $100 for Antennas on the MT system.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle
Luthman
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
John Thomas - three emails have been blank in the last few minutes.
What's wrong with the Loco antennas? They're 8 and 13dbi for 2.4 and 5Ghz (I
think).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
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Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that
pass through POE?
Not to my knowledge.
I've always done two lines up the tower
, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
There is next to no learning curve on the Deliberant if you know
networking
and wireless at all. It's an easy web interface and has full SSH access
too
if you like that route. I highly recommend it. So much easier than
putting
two radios up
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
So What software do they have running on the Deliberant Quads/Duos units
now?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless
UBNT rockets have a second Ethernet port
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks for the advice guys
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks for the advice guys on the Deliberant. However, Last thing I really
want to do is learn another radio system.
Really hoping for a MT
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks for the advice guys on the Deliberant. However, Last thing I really
want to do
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Thanks for the advice guys on the Deliberant. However, Last thing I
really want to do is learn another radio system.
Really hoping for a MT or UBNT option
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Steve:
I don't think you're going to get much cheaper than what you said below, but
here's a try.
Nanostation M
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Steve:
I don't think you're going to get much cheaper than what you said below
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Steve:
I don't think you're going to get much cheaper than what you said below
Message -
From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
UBNT rockets have a second Ethernet port
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless
One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable
between the two dishes and you are done... no electronics to fail, no
power to supply on a remote location.
(haven't tested this trick with dual polarity, though)
Rubens
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Steve Barnes
at the house?
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Rubens Kuhl
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
One option to consider
Kuhl
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the
two dishes and you are done... no electronics to fail, no power to supply on
a remote location.
(haven't tested
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the
two dishes and you are done... no electronics to fail, no power to supply on
a remote
, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the
two dishes and you are done... no electronics to fail, no power to supply on
a remote location.
(haven't tested this trick with dual
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the
two
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the two dishes and you
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
For this to work, one end needs to be very short. In a typical mountain-top
repeat situation, the combined free-space path loss from BOTH paths is more
than enough to prevent the link from working.
Greg Ihnen wrote:
Actually I've done
: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
For this to work, one end needs to be very short. In a typical mountain-top
repeat situation, the combined free-space path loss from BOTH paths is more
than enough to prevent the link from working.
Greg Ihnen
test it.
:-)
Friendly Regards,
Mike
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater
My understanding is that a half wavelength long
Ryan,
Non-pen roof mount with a lot of cinder blocks will make it real easy
for your site to be re-configured at 3 AM by unknown persons.
jack
D. Ryan Spott wrote:
I am looking for pictures of remote rocky outcrop repeaters. I have the
opportunity to stick a repeater on a very remote and
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