Yah... to reduce latency, keep the base at a frame duration of 5ms.
The 1/4 cyclic prefix will help if you're getting dropped packets, but
1/8 gives more throughout.
Travis: give us a call and we'll help you sort this out.
Thanks.
Travis Johnson wrote:
> Actually the ping times went to 60ms wit
They both have Ethernet ports!
DSJ
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
I was told that Redlines's WiMax sol
>
> On to the CPE: This is one of the worst designs of a CPE that I have
> ever seen. The entire unit is made by Tranzeo and looks just like their
> normal 2.4 CPE. It has the bar of lights on the top showing Power, LAN,
> RSSI, etc. The mounting bracket is the "L" bracket that bolts to the
> back
, December 15, 2008 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update
So did you get your latency down from 30-40ms? I remember you were
having the same problem a few weeks ago with the Redline stuff?
Travis
Gino Villarini wrote:
> its all part of how the Wimax MAC wo
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, December 15
ess Broadband Corp.
> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>
>
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:53 PM
> To: WISPA Genera
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update
Actually the ping times went to 60ms with those changes.
Travis
John Scrivner wrote:
Switch to 1/4 carrier and 10 ms. I bet it clears up.
Scriv
On Mon
Actually the ping times went to 60ms with those changes.
Travis
John Scrivner wrote:
Switch to 1/4 carrier and 10 ms. I bet it clears up.
Scriv
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
We tried them all... best effort, non-polling real time, and polling
real t
objecting to my using a full spectrum radio there . I
don't know if he has tried to register yet or not.
- Original Message -
From: "Gino Villarini"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: Re:
, December 15, 2008 11:12 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>
> Bring out your credit card and go get one. Run you a wooping $260 and take
> you about 10min to do. ;)
>
> /Eje
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> -Original Message-
Bring out your credit card and go get one. Run you a wooping $260 and take you
about 10min to do. ;)
/Eje
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-Original Message-
From: "3-dB Networks"
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:04:18
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] V
Switch to 1/4 carrier and 10 ms. I bet it clears up.
Scriv
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> We tried them all... best effort, non-polling real time, and polling
> real time. All the same latency. We are also using 5ms frame and 1/8
> carrier.
>
> Travis
>
>
> Gino Villa
We tried them all... best effort, non-polling real time, and polling
real time. All the same latency. We are also using 5ms frame and 1/8
carrier.
Travis
Gino Villarini wrote:
> What QOS are you using on that conenction? Berst effort?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wir
I get 10 ms on every packet every time with no loss. I am using Redline with
non-real time polling.
Scriv
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> What QOS are you using on that conenction? Berst effort?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband
What QOS are you using on that conenction? Berst effort?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent:
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:51 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>
> Not sure how I can prove it... being that I didn't a
-dB Networks
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
Not sure how I can prove it... being that I didn't actually go through
this but its what one of our customers told us (and they are not on the
list).
Daniel Whit
> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:42 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>
> I have always assumed multiple operators could register the same site
> too. Though I was skeptical (and remain so), Remi was really emphatic
&
need proof.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
Hi,
We are going to need specifics on this... because th
ecember 15, 2008 9:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
Hi Travis, I wish I had specifics, but I don't have anything other than
an anecdotal story told to me by Redline when I was at a conference. I
had always been under the impression an operator could register for the
are in a heck
of a problem.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:22 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] V
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
Patrick,
Could you please share the exact information about the FCC rejecting
applications for the same tower? At ISP
9:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
I consider my reply to be of enough value that I am sending out on the
WISPA members list. You will see my reply there.
Scriv
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
John,
What are your thoughts about
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
I consider my reply to be of enough value that I am sending out on the
WISPA members list. You will see my reply th
I can say for the Tranzeo weather proofing rj45 setup is ok.. I haven't had any
problems with it seeping water. We have been using these for 4 years (note
I am knocking on wood right now) :)
Thomas P Galla
t...@bluegrass.net
BluegrassNet
Voice (502) 589.INET [4638]
Fax 502-315-0581
321 Eas
I consider my reply to be of enough value that I am sending out on the WISPA
members list. You will see my reply there.
Scriv
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> John,
>
> What are your thoughts about using the 3.65ghz band that has no
> capabilities to handle any type o
John,
What are your thoughts about using the 3.65ghz band that has no
capabilities to handle any type of noise rejection? One of my big
concerns with 3.65ghz is spending a lot of money on base stations, NMS,
etc. and then having someone purchase a $3,000 LigoWave 3.65 point to
point link and s
My thoughts inline below:
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> U pricing is WAY, WAY different.
>
> Redline AP's are around $10k
> Vecima AP's are around $4k
>
Redline has an FCC approved system with 3 - 120 degree sectors with a 3-way
splitter which allows for full
>I was told that Redlines's WiMax solution would be interoperable - but
>that was a salesmen speaking.
They are...
At a base level
-Charles
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nifty QoS features
disappear)
-Charles
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
We are going to test this for ours
08 1:34 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>
> So this stuff then is not really WiMAX, it;s just another proprietary
> system, right?
>
> George
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
>> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
>>> Don't I remember t
p.
> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
> So this stuff then is not really WiMAX, it;s just another proprietary
> system, right?
>
> George
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
>> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
>>> Don't I remember that there wa
, December 14, 2008 1:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
We are going to test this for ourselves but it is our understanding that
all 3.65 WiMAX Forum Certified equipment is interoperable but only to a
certain extent. From what I understand, Redline Base Stations and
ni
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
Well its uses Wimax MAC, but ists not Wimax Forum Certified so the
manufactures don't have to comply with interoperability
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel
667-4585 x2509
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
Well its uses Wimax MAC, but ists not Wimax Forum C
a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
So this stuff then is not really WiMAX, it;s just another proprietary
system, right?
George
Blair Davis wrote:
> rea...@muddyfrog
So this stuff then is not really WiMAX, it;s just another proprietary
system, right?
George
Blair Davis wrote:
> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
>> Don't I remember that there was a lot of hype about interoperability?
>>
>> That's why many of us still stick to the old a/b/g stuff. We hate the
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
Don't I remember that there was a lot of hype about interoperability?
That's why many of us still stick to the old a/b/g stuff. We hate the idea
of getting orphaned.
Right on! Some of us HAVE been orphaned!
---
"Drew Lentz"
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:34 AM
To: "WISPA General List" ; "Gino Villarini"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>>From what I understood from the guys at Tranzeo, just because they are
> manufactured both by Tranzeo and they are the same
> of getting orphaned.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Drew Lentz"
> To: "WISPA General List" ; "Gino Villarini"
>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3
To: WISPA General List; Gino Villarini
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
>From what I understood from the guys at Tranzeo, just because they are
manufactured both by Tranzeo and they are the same freq, there are hooks
into all of the CPEs so that they are not cross-compatible. This might
need clarifi
SPA General List" ; "Gino Villarini"
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
> >From what I understood from the guys at Tranzeo, just because they are
> manufactured both by Tranzeo and they are the same freq, there are hooks
> into all of
tpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>
>
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: R
g] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
U pricing is WAY, WAY different.
Redline AP's are around $10k
Vecima AP's are around $4k
Redline CPE's are $300 each (even in 250 quantity)
Vecima
ni
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [
U pricing is WAY, WAY different.
Redline AP's are around $10k
Vecima AP's are around $4k
Redline CPE's are $300 each (even in 250 quantity)
Vecima CPE's are less than $249
And, I was told Tranzeo is making Redline's CPE as well? Could you send
a picture of the Redline CPE?
Travis
No... I've never had that experience... and I probably won't... it
seems really "cheap"... and having to re-crimp if you change radio type
makes it even worse. :(
Travis
Microserv
Randy Cosby wrote:
Travis,
You've never had the pleasure of dealing with Tranzeo's ethernet
connector? They
telligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Gino Villarini"
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:05 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Cc: "WISPA General List"
> S
When we used Tranzeos that "very waterproof" system is the worst
system I have seen.
It may have been our installs or the weather, but that cover is
horrible. Coax seal did a good job of fixing those issues, however,
it made it additionally difficult.
On 12/13/08, Randy Cosby wrote:
> Travis,
>
2:05 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Cc: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65
> iirc one vendor told me the recline CPe could talk with the Vecima
> base
>
>
> The redline units are top notch quality construction, no tranzeo
> mickey mouse
iirc one vendor told me the recline CPe could talk with the Vecima
base
The redline units are top notch quality construction, no tranzeo
mickey mouse stuff.
Afaik pricing is not much diferent
Gino
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Dec 13, 2008, at 2:37 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote
One comment regarding the bench testing of any radio.
Too much signal is just as bad as too little signal because an
overloaded receiver will create errors just like a receiver that
doesn't get enough signal.
When bench testing, I advise either placing the units several rooms
apart (to bene
I have comments inline... At least for the Tranzeo Unit :)
D. Ryan Spott
rsp...@cspott.com
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We received our Vecima "trial" kit (one AP and five CPE) on Thursday
> afternoon. We have not yet put it on a tower, as there were several
Travis,
You've never had the pleasure of dealing with Tranzeo's ethernet
connector? They insist this is the most waterproof / weatherproof way
they've found. Even so, it is a pain in the rear, I agree.
Looking forward to seeing more test results. Thanks for doing the
product beta test and d
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