Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Greene
Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Steve Barnes
] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Fred Goldstein
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? $8000 is expensive

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Gino Villarini
To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, but wanted to stay

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Jerry Richardson
02, 2011 8:36 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Gino Villarini
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? 24GHz @ 3 miles is not going to be stable unless is never rains What about 5.4GHz? Moto PTP500 Lite will do 52Mbps now, and 105Mbps

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Greene
] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Gino Villarini
@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Guys, I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile link. Not sure if it will reach that far ... Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/2/2011 01:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_D26588DB857E2948835D6C7A27C9879E15DBBD68AEROMAIL1aerone_ Both Radwin and Motorola PTP500 would work well under high interference, but if you want to go to a whole diff band, I

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/2/2011 1:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/2/2011 01:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type:

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Randy Cosby
I think you just jinxed that link! On 8/2/2011 2:32 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/2/2011 1:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 2 August 2011 16:32, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years. Rain in the tropics and rain in the midwest are two *very* different things.

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Me
24ghz is unlicensed. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 14:02:52 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Gino Villarini
, July 29, 2011 2:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? 24ghz is unlicensed. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 14:02:52 GMT

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Cameron Crum
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Me *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 2:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** 24ghz is unlicensed. *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* -Original message- *From

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Gino Villarini
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft dish, I guess you are

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Cameron Crum
I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM,

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Gino Villarini
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Cameron Crum
] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain fade will be a problem if you try to go too far

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Gino Villarini
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? I'm aware of all

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Cameron Crum
] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Gino Villarini
...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Chuck Hogg
Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ** ** $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Josh Luthman
, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Jerry Richardson
OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-29 Thread Josh Luthman
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: What would you

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-28 Thread Cameron Crum
...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-28 Thread Gino Villarini
...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-07-28 Thread Me
2' dishes Matt Larsen Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 13:10:27 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Greene
Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: This question has probably been asked on this list

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: Has

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with power supplies. About a 4 week lead time. But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Nice! Price

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes? No idea what to put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes. On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anything from 1' on up. It has same

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached -B- On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Street price

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? ** ** Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said I am told.. Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul? Two more