Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
100 mbps UL = Motorola/Orthogon or Exalt Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > Mission critical and unlicensed don't go together. I don't know about that. I've found it faster to avoid/resolve interference in unlicensed, than I have in Licensed. In Licensed, you don't just have the right to change, and you DO get interference in Licensed, and required to spend time working with others to reach resolution. Anytime you rely on others, its going to be a slow resolution. The beauty of unlicensed, is the freedom to take action. As far as getting 100mbps and Unlicensed togeather, well thats a different arguement, and nothing I'd ever try. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > > > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > >>> > RickG wrote: >>> >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission >>> critical 100Mbps PTP >>> links? >>> >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed >>> OK. >>> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
> Mission critical and unlicensed don't go together. I don't know about that. I've found it faster to avoid/resolve interference in unlicensed, than I have in Licensed. In Licensed, you don't just have the right to change, and you DO get interference in Licensed, and required to spend time working with others to reach resolution. Anytime you rely on others, its going to be a slow resolution. The beauty of unlicensed, is the freedom to take action. As far as getting 100mbps and Unlicensed togeather, well thats a different arguement, and nothing I'd ever try. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > > > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > >>> > RickG wrote: >>> >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission >>> critical 100Mbps PTP >>> links? >>> >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed >>> OK. >>> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Thanks Travis! On 6/18/08, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting > 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about > 50Mbps across it daily. > > Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. > You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less > than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, > so can be added later). > > Travis > Microserv > > RickG wrote: > > Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? > > I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. > > > > -RickG > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
No problem and great to hear from you Brad. Just for the record, here we have the "English Summer". Take that as a daily lottery of whether it's going to be sunny, drizzle or deluge. Most probably explains why we Brits all talk about the weather - it's just so random. Best regards Stephen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: 18 June 2008 19:32 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Sorry everyone. Meant to be off list. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Hello Stephen, Good to hear from you and trust all is well on your side of the pond. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1506 - Release Date: 17/06/2008 16:30 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Sorry everyone. Meant to be off list. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Hello Stephen, Good to hear from you and trust all is well on your side of the pond. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Hello Stephen, Good to hear from you and trust all is well on your side of the pond. Sounds like you have an interesting product...similar to what DragonWave is pushing with their Horizon line. Send me some information on what you have. I'd love to know how it compares (features & price) to other solutions available today. Best, Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Excellent discussion going here, I'd propose something similar to Brad, with a single antenna, but with a combiner and dual ODUs for licensed on both paths. Those go down to separate IDUs, with separate Ethernet ports to different upstreams or routers. That gives you complete isolation i.e. no components (actives, power or cables) in common except the physical antenna and RF combiner which are passive mechanical hardware. It's a standard technique for licensed MW, and gives telco-grade resilience. The advantage is that you get 100Mbps on both legs - which potentially you could use both of which when they are up, and also, neither is "worse" than the other in use. The only disadvantage is that needs 2 licenses (unless using hotstandby, which only needs one, but requires the equipment to be coupled together to effect the switch-over), whereas Brad's suggestion uses 5.8 for the second leg. We have and do ship such equipment, particularly for service providers: feel welcome drop me a line off-list if anyone's interested. Best regards Stephen CableFree Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: 18 June 2008 17:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Mission critical equates to multiple paths and technologies in my book. Network hardware can break whether it costs $100 or $100,000. I would consider a licensed & unlicensed combination for this path. If your sites will allow you could go with 6GHz and a 5Ghz failover path. Both links could probably use the same 6' antenna with a dual polarity feed, but then again you are depending on one common point of failure by serving this "mission critical" site with two links from the same upstream site. The better solution would be to feed the site from completely diverse upstream paths. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1506 - Release Date: 17/06/2008 16:30 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Let's all keep in mind that the redundancy is moot if you plug both > radios into the same UPS or outlet. Who uses outlets? All our mission critical gear is -48VDC. :) -- Bryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Let's all keep in mind that the redundancy is moot if you plug both radios into the same UPS or outlet. :-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Excellent discussion going here, I'd propose something similar to Brad, with a single antenna, but with a combiner and dual ODUs for licensed on both paths. Those go down to separate IDUs, with separate Ethernet ports to different upstreams or routers. That gives you complete isolation i.e. no components (actives, power or cables) in common except the physical antenna and RF combiner which are passive mechanical hardware. It's a standard technique for licensed MW, and gives telco-grade resilience. The advantage is that you get 100Mbps on both legs - which potentially you could use both of which when they are up, and also, neither is "worse" than the other in use. The only disadvantage is that needs 2 licenses (unless using hotstandby, which only needs one, but requires the equipment to be coupled together to effect the switch-over), whereas Brad's suggestion uses 5.8 for the second leg. We have and do ship such equipment, particularly for service providers: feel welcome drop me a line off-list if anyone's interested. Best regards Stephen CableFree Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: 18 June 2008 17:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Mission critical equates to multiple paths and technologies in my book. Network hardware can break whether it costs $100 or $100,000. I would consider a licensed & unlicensed combination for this path. If your sites will allow you could go with 6GHz and a 5Ghz failover path. Both links could probably use the same 6' antenna with a dual polarity feed, but then again you are depending on one common point of failure by serving this "mission critical" site with two links from the same upstream site. The better solution would be to feed the site from completely diverse upstream paths. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1506 - Release Date: 17/06/2008 16:30 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
I couldn't agree more Brad. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Mission critical equates to multiple paths and technologies in my book. Network hardware can break whether it costs $100 or $100,000. I would consider a licensed & unlicensed combination for this path. If your sites will allow you could go with 6GHz and a 5Ghz failover path. Both links could probably use the same 6' antenna with a dual polarity feed, but then again you are depending on one common point of failure by serving this "mission critical" site with two links from the same upstream site. The better solution would be to feed the site from completely diverse upstream paths. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Mission critical equates to multiple paths and technologies in my book. Network hardware can break whether it costs $100 or $100,000. I would consider a licensed & unlicensed combination for this path. If your sites will allow you could go with 6GHz and a 5Ghz failover path. Both links could probably use the same 6' antenna with a dual polarity feed, but then again you are depending on one common point of failure by serving this "mission critical" site with two links from the same upstream site. The better solution would be to feed the site from completely diverse upstream paths. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Mission critical and unlicensed don't go together. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> > RickG wrote: >> >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission >> critical 100Mbps PTP >> links? >> >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed >> OK. >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
it is a BX self support tower...I just need a ground person. --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > To: "WISPA General List" > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:52 AM > Well not really 45 @ 45 ... but they are good radios > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > Trango 45 is supposed to do 45 Mbps at 45 miles for less > than $2K per > system. > > - Original Message - > From: "CHUCK PROFITO" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > > > Travis, > > What would you use or be cost effective, to get 50Mbps > throughput 27 > miles > > > > Chuck Profito > > 209-988-7388 > > CV-ACCESS, INC > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Providing High Speed Broadband > > to Rural Central California > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:08 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > > > Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with > 2ft dishes > shooting > > 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. > We push about > > 50Mbps across it daily. > > > > Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money > than > Dragonwave. > > You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft > dishes for less > > than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 > extra (software > key, > > so can be added later). > > > > Travis > > Microserv > > > > RickG wrote: > >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission > critical 100Mbps PTP > links? > >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed > OK. > >> > >> -RickG > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Well not really 45 @ 45 ... but they are good radios Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Trango 45 is supposed to do 45 Mbps at 45 miles for less than $2K per system. - Original Message - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > Travis, > What would you use or be cost effective, to get 50Mbps throughput 27 miles > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:08 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting > 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about > 50Mbps across it daily. > > Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. > You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less > than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, > so can be added later). > > Travis > Microserv > > RickG wrote: >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. >> >> -RickG >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Licensed or Unlicensed? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:16 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Travis, What would you use or be cost effective, to get 50Mbps throughput 27 miles Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about 50Mbps across it daily. Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, so can be added later). Travis Microserv RickG wrote: > Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? > I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. > > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Thank you, we'll look into it Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Trango 45 is supposed to do 45 Mbps at 45 miles for less than $2K per system. - Original Message - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > Travis, > What would you use or be cost effective, to get 50Mbps throughput 27 miles > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:08 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting > 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about > 50Mbps across it daily. > > Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. > You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less > than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, > so can be added later). > > Travis > Microserv > > RickG wrote: >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. >> >> -RickG >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Trango 45 is supposed to do 45 Mbps at 45 miles for less than $2K per system. - Original Message - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > Travis, > What would you use or be cost effective, to get 50Mbps throughput 27 miles > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:08 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > > Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting > 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about > 50Mbps across it daily. > > Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. > You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less > than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, > so can be added later). > > Travis > Microserv > > RickG wrote: >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? >> I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. >> >> -RickG >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
How critical? Harris Constellation full hot standby space diversity is about as mission critical as you can get with microwave. That would be licensed. A little less critical would be Dragonwave. We use them and love them. Put up a double set redundant system with STP. Trango 18 GHz stuff seems to be working well for us as well. Lower cost. Again, redundant with STP/OSPF type of stuff. Then lower cost yet would be Orthogon. You can get 100 Mbps on all of those (at least I think you can on the Trango, not totally sure). If this is a link that is involved in launching nuclear missiles or keeping air traffic control operational, I would bury fiber backed up with Harris. What is critical to you may not be critical to the next guy. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? > I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. > > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Travis, What would you use or be cost effective, to get 50Mbps throughput 27 miles Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about 50Mbps across it daily. Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, so can be added later). Travis Microserv RickG wrote: > Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? > I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. > > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links
Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about 50Mbps across it daily. Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money than Dragonwave. You can purchase a Trango 100Mbps 18ghz set with 2ft dishes for less than $15k. Upgrade to 300Mbps full duplex is $3,000 extra (software key, so can be added later). Travis Microserv RickG wrote: > Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission critical 100Mbps PTP links? > I need to go 10-15 miles. Licensed or unlicensed OK. > > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
