Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread John Scrivner
ference can and does do to you if it's the >> wrong (right?) kind. >> >> I assume you've tried a different channel already? That's one of the first >> things I always do these days. >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> Fr

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Europe, not available in the USA. marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > Oh, I caught something on your website. Whats with channels 12-14? I never > tire

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
February 23, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue >I took it he meant that as well. In further thought, I suppose the high >gain > omni is also picking up noise & interference from further out as well. > Many > times, I can see several of my towers from anywhere in t

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
ou'll point the antenna straight at the tower's >> antenna >> anyway. At the tower though, you need to cover MUCH more area, both from >> side to side AND up and down. >> >> That help? >> marlon >> >> >> - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
e (up) the clients, if that is what he meant, > then > he is correct. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:24 AM > To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
n > > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > > Marlon, > > > > I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
one from Rentelco. > > laters, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > >A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I t

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
rlon > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > >I agree but such a sudden change? I mean like day & night. Interesting to &

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
first > things I always do these days. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > >I agree but such a sudden chan

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
t; /Eje > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: RickG > > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:23:55 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > Marlon, > > I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni ant

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Randy Cosby
You can look for omnis with downtilt built in as well if you must go with higher gain and must use an omni. -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue That is what he is saying. Avoid the

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
one floor. marlon - Original Message - From: To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > That is what he is saying. Avoid the high gain 15dB omnis unless you know > what you do and design system right. There are cases

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
ot; To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > Actually, I disagree with Marlon on this one. The higher the gain on the > antenna, the narrower the beamwidth. Therefore, many times your main lobe > is shoot

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread eje
not send the main portion above them where it does no good. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Rick Harnish" Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:47:51 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Actually, I disagree with Marl

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Rick Harnish
onday, February 23, 2009 12:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit?

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
you'll point the antenna straight at the tower's antenna anyway. At the tower though, you need to cover MUCH more area, both from side to side AND up and down. That help? marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, Feb

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
ntelco. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue >A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I tried and wasnt impressed with >wi-spy. > Is there anything else i

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
fferent channel already? That's one of the first things I always do these days. marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue >I agree but such a sudden chan

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread eje
and of course they should not be outside outer -3dB (with omni generally no risk unless your providing internet to aliens. ;) ) /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:23:55 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit? -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Not sure if it's related

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread eje
, 22 Feb 2009 23:26:39 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I tried and wasnt impressed with wi-spy. Is there anything else inexpensive that will analyze the spectrum? Thanks! -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote: >

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
doing. > > > > > > /Eje > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: RickG > > > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
are doing. > > > > > > /Eje > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: RickG > > > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subjec

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
5 > 541-998-5599 fax > http://www.unwiredwest.com > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:07 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > >I have seen it occationally on this tower and ot

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Phil Curnutt
eople are doing. > > > > /Eje > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > -Original Message- > > From: RickG > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > >

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Mark Nash
" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue >I have seen it occationally on this tower and others but this one is really > bad. I'm planning on replacing the WRAP with a WAR or Mikrotik. Hopefully > that helps. > > Thanks! -RickG > > On S

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
is one of the biggest problem I see people are doing. > > /Eje > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: RickG > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue > > > I agree wit

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread eje
Never assume a problem is ever interference no matter how rural you are. This is one of the biggest problem I see people are doing. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
I have seen it occationally on this tower and others but this one is really bad. I'm planning on replacing the WRAP with a WAR or Mikrotik. Hopefully that helps. Thanks! -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > Rick, we have had a problem with a couple of StarOS APs where all

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt it's related since this setup has been running on this particular tower since 2004 (I bought the company this way). Also, it is set up on several others with no issues. I failed to mention these towers are in very rural locations so

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Mark Nash
Rick, we have had a problem with a couple of StarOS APs where all the associations stop passing data. You reboot (maybe a couple times) and it comes back as normal. We originally thought it was a problem with the hardware, then we replaced all the hardware (the site had original WAR4 with SR9

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Not sure if it's related or not, but high gain omni antennas are usually a great big no no. They tend to send more signal UP than in the direction of the customers. I'd replace it with an 8 or 9 db unit just on principal. You'll probably find that most customers will actually get a BETTER sig