Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Rick Harnish
, February 23, 2009 12:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit? -RickG

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread eje
are not send the main portion above them where it does no good. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:47:51 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Actually, I disagree

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Actually, I disagree with Marlon on this one. The higher the gain on the antenna, the narrower the beamwidth. Therefore, many times your main lobe is shooting over the top of your

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
. marlon - Original Message - From: e...@wisp-router.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue That is what he is saying. Avoid the high gain 15dB omnis unless you know what you do and design system right

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Randy Cosby
You can look for omnis with downtilt built in as well if you must go with higher gain and must use an omni. -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:26 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue That is what he

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:23:55 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
- Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree but such a sudden change? I mean like day night. Interesting to contemplate

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
rgunder...@gmail.com To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree but such a sudden change? I mean like day night. Interesting to contemplate though. What does interference look like

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I tried and wasnt impressed with wi-spy. Is there anything else inexpensive that will analyze the spectrum? Thanks! -RickG On Sun

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit? -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread RickG
) the clients, if that is what he meant, then he is correct. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
10:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, nice stuff. I agree with all that. My confusion comes from why I cant have a high gain antenna with the same pattern as a lower gain unit? Both should be able to be designed the same. -RickG On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Marlon K. Schafer

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I took it he meant that as well. In further thought, I suppose the high gain omni is also picking up noise interference from further out as well. Many times, I can see several of my towers from anywhere in the county

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Europe, not available in the USA. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Oh, I caught something on your website. Whats with channels 12-14? I never

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-23 Thread John Scrivner
:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree but such a sudden change? I mean like day night. Interesting to contemplate though. What does interference look like if IT is affecting a tower? -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Never assume

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Not sure if it's related or not, but high gain omni antennas are usually a great big no no. They tend to send more signal UP than in the direction of the customers. I'd replace it with an 8 or 9 db unit just on principal. You'll probably find that most customers will actually get a BETTER

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Mark Nash
Rick, we have had a problem with a couple of StarOS APs where all the associations stop passing data. You reboot (maybe a couple times) and it comes back as normal. We originally thought it was a problem with the hardware, then we replaced all the hardware (the site had original WAR4 with

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt it's related since this setup has been running on this particular tower since 2004 (I bought the company this way). Also, it is set up on several others with no issues. I failed to mention these towers are in very rural locations

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
I have seen it occationally on this tower and others but this one is really bad. I'm planning on replacing the WRAP with a WAR or Mikrotik. Hopefully that helps. Thanks! -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Rick, we have had a problem with a couple of

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread eje
Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt it's related since this setup has been running on this particular tower since 2004 (I bought the company this way). Also, it is set up on several others with no issues. I failed

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
are. This is one of the biggest problem I see people are doing. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree with you

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Mark Nash
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I have seen it occationally on this tower and others but this one is really bad. I'm planning on replacing the WRAP with a WAR or Mikrotik. Hopefully that helps. Thanks! -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Phil Curnutt
. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt it's

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I have seen it occationally on this tower and others but this one is really bad. I'm planning

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
-Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt it's related since this setup has been

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
-Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt it's related since this setup has been running

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread eje
...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:26:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I tried and wasnt impressed with wi-spy. Is there anything else inexpensive that will analyze the spectrum? Thanks! -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread RickG
Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit? -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Not

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread eje
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit? -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
already? That's one of the first things I always do these days. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue I agree but such a sudden

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I tried and wasnt impressed with wi-spy. Is there anything else inexpensive that will analyze the spectrum

Re: [WISPA] tower issue

2009-02-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue Marlon, I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit? -RickG On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K