subject:"Re\: \[WISPA\] www.att.com\/towers"

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-12 Thread eje

All is good if the market can support it. But in my case the tower I mentioned 
don't even have close to 200 house holds within sight of it. 100 at best that 
we could service and assuming 50% sign up rate of all households within reach I 
think we would do very good. So 500 for 50 or so customers means 10 tower cost. 
Not factoring engineering cost or cost of rent on backhaul tower "upstream" to 
feed this remote tower. 

At 500/mo and 2k engineering fee in this area was just not economically 
feasible. 
/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Chuck Hogg" 

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:14:34 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


We do this as well, however some of these commercial towers that we are
serving off of, have over 200 customers.  $500/mth is worth it for a
tower producing $10k/mth is it not?  Some of these locations we also
have grain legs that are in the same vicinity, and we have about 70
customers already on them.

We recently applied for our CLEC/PSC license within the state.  My goal
is to now build out a "mesh" type of network (not really) but we are
planning to put in telephone poles in our densely populated areas using
public easements.  Hand off customer locations from the telephone poles,
and backhaul it to our primary towers.  This does two things, increases
our density/availability in the market, but it also increases the number
of customers per actual tower.  10 customers per pole, 20 poles per
sector, in theory 600 customers per tower location.  The poles are going
to cost about $500 a pole (new), and $300 to get it set.  $300 in
electrician work, and 700 in equipment to serve off of it. So around $2k
to put in a new pole, and we plan on doing about 40 of them over the
year.  Then we only pay $7/mth for electricity per pole.

We are also adding Vecima WiMax to the mix this week, we'll see how it
goes.

My point was just to see if WISPA as an organization had a go to person
at any of these companies.  It might be worth it if WISPA went to the
companies to get someone as a go to person.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Avolutia, LLC
(502) 722-9292
www.avolutia.com
www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

True. I tried to explain that for what we did and the type of market and
the location of the tower we couldn't afford paying that much but also
tried to explain that later on we might want to add some antennas to
relay signals elsewhere. Ended up giving up on the since they wouldn't
budge and I did make an arrangement with a farmer with a 120ft grain bin
that was actually at a better location and a much better deal. The local
farmer is very happy we are happy and the none local tower company is
oblivious and lost their chance. I can reach anywhere I want to with
this tower that I would on their tower. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Tom DeReggi" 

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:31:50 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to
WISPs, 
once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, 
getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel
out 
the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on 
fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar

amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if
they 
take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and
antennas 
colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly
few 
hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the
contracts. I 
believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate
enough 
antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible
that 
the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he

pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates
to 
buy it are shrinking.
ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost 
justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to 
something fair.

But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies,
jsut 
because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify 
spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.

If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its
to 
time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local
7 
eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of
antennas, 
you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits
it 
offers.

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-12 Thread Chuck Hogg

We do this as well, however some of these commercial towers that we are
serving off of, have over 200 customers.  $500/mth is worth it for a
tower producing $10k/mth is it not?  Some of these locations we also
have grain legs that are in the same vicinity, and we have about 70
customers already on them.

We recently applied for our CLEC/PSC license within the state.  My goal
is to now build out a "mesh" type of network (not really) but we are
planning to put in telephone poles in our densely populated areas using
public easements.  Hand off customer locations from the telephone poles,
and backhaul it to our primary towers.  This does two things, increases
our density/availability in the market, but it also increases the number
of customers per actual tower.  10 customers per pole, 20 poles per
sector, in theory 600 customers per tower location.  The poles are going
to cost about $500 a pole (new), and $300 to get it set.  $300 in
electrician work, and 700 in equipment to serve off of it. So around $2k
to put in a new pole, and we plan on doing about 40 of them over the
year.  Then we only pay $7/mth for electricity per pole.

We are also adding Vecima WiMax to the mix this week, we'll see how it
goes.

My point was just to see if WISPA as an organization had a go to person
at any of these companies.  It might be worth it if WISPA went to the
companies to get someone as a go to person.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Avolutia, LLC
(502) 722-9292
www.avolutia.com
www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

True. I tried to explain that for what we did and the type of market and
the location of the tower we couldn't afford paying that much but also
tried to explain that later on we might want to add some antennas to
relay signals elsewhere. Ended up giving up on the since they wouldn't
budge and I did make an arrangement with a farmer with a 120ft grain bin
that was actually at a better location and a much better deal. The local
farmer is very happy we are happy and the none local tower company is
oblivious and lost their chance. I can reach anywhere I want to with
this tower that I would on their tower. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Tom DeReggi" 

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:31:50 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to
WISPs, 
once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, 
getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel
out 
the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on 
fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar

amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if
they 
take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and
antennas 
colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly
few 
hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the
contracts. I 
believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate
enough 
antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible
that 
the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he

pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates
to 
buy it are shrinking.
ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost 
justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to 
something fair.

But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies,
jsut 
because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify 
spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.

If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its
to 
time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local
7 
eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of
antennas, 
you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits
it 
offers.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Blake Bowers" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


> Hmmm
>
> I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
> emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.
>
> I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
> to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.
>
> And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
> in 18 states.
>
> I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett

The AT&T comment only goes so far.  I'm sure the big 5 (or however many 
there are now) cell carriers don't call Bob, the local American Tower rep. 
They probably have a dedicated "Nextel" team in American Tower.

AT&T only adds 100 towers every once in a while.

Volume makes a difference, but when I talked to various nationwide tower 
guys, it seemed like volume meant 12 antenna each on 50 towers.

I do know a couple semi-local tower guys (20 - 50 towers or so) and they're 
great to work with.  I even put all of one guy's towers in Google Earth and 
sent him the file to put on his web site.  I sure as hell wouldn't do that 
for American Tower, Global Signal, or whoever else is left in that industry.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Tom DeReggi" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:31 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

> I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to 
> WISPs,
> once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road,
> getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel 
> out
> the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on
> fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar
> amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if they
> take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and 
> antennas
> colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly 
> few
> hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the contracts. 
> I
> believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate enough
> antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible 
> that
> the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he
> pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates to
> buy it are shrinking.
> ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost
> justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to
> something fair.
>
> But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies, 
> jsut
> because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify
> spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.
>
> If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its to
> time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local 7
> eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of antennas,
> you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits it
> offers.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Blake Bowers" 
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>
>> Hmmm
>>
>> I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
>> emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.
>>
>> I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
>> to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.
>>
>> And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
>> in 18 states.
>>
>> I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.
>>
>>
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>>
>>> Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One
>>> company
>>> I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I
>>> wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small
>>> backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel).
>>>
>>> I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for
>>> a
>>> waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same
>>> thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal
>>> with farmers and private tower owners.
>>>
>>> /Eje
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>>>
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31
>>> To:

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Blair Davis





That is the way I do it.  Most farmers will swap space for service...

e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

  Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One company I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel). 

I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for a waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal with farmers and private tower owners. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Eric Rogers" 

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
built my own tower next to it... ;)

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Jerry Richardson" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

  
  
No,
I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations

  
  are
  
  
listed.

I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.



__
Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

  
  On
  
  
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

Ever price them?
-RickG

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
 wrote:


  FYI 

www.att.com/towers



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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread eje

True. I tried to explain that for what we did and the type of market and the 
location of the tower we couldn't afford paying that much but also tried to 
explain that later on we might want to add some antennas to relay signals 
elsewhere. Ended up giving up on the since they wouldn't budge and I did make 
an arrangement with a farmer with a 120ft grain bin that was actually at a 
better location and a much better deal. The local farmer is very happy we are 
happy and the none local tower company is oblivious and lost their chance. I 
can reach anywhere I want to with this tower that I would on their tower. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Tom DeReggi" 

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:31:50 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to WISPs, 
once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, 
getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel out 
the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on 
fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar 
amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if they 
take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and antennas 
colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly few 
hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the contracts. I 
believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate enough 
antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible that 
the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he 
pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates to 
buy it are shrinking.
ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost 
justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to 
something fair.

But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies, jsut 
because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify 
spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.

If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its to 
time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local 7 
eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of antennas, 
you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits it 
offers.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Blake Bowers" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


> Hmmm
>
> I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
> emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.
>
> I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
> to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.
>
> And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
> in 18 states.
>
> I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>
>> Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One 
>> company
>> I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I
>> wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small
>> backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel).
>>
>> I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for 
>> a
>> waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same
>> thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal
>> with farmers and private tower owners.
>>
>> /Eje
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>>
>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>>
>> I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
>> built my own tower next to it... ;)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them bef

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Brian Rohrbacher





If only someone wanted to start a business and negotiate these
contracts for wisps.  One guy could run this business, know all the
tower guys and help us get on these towers.  I would gladly pay someone
to do this dirty work.

Brian

Tom DeReggi wrote:

  I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to WISPs, 
once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, 
getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel out 
the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on 
fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar 
amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if they 
take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and antennas 
colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly few 
hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the contracts. I 
believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate enough 
antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible that 
the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he 
pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates to 
buy it are shrinking.
ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost 
justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to 
something fair.

But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies, jsut 
because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify 
spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.

If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its to 
time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local 7 
eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of antennas, 
you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits it 
offers.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Blake Bowers" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


  
  
Hmmm

I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.

I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.

And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
in 18 states.

I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers




  Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One 
company
I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I
wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small
backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel).

I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for 
a
waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same
thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal
with farmers and private tower owners.

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Eric Rogers" 

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
built my own tower next to it... ;)

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?


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From: "Jerry Richardson" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

  
  
No,
I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations

  
  are
  
  
listed.

I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.



__
Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

  
  On
      
      
    Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

Ever price them?
-RickG

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
 wrote:


  FYI 

www.att.com/

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Tom DeReggi

I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to WISPs, 
once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, 
getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel out 
the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on 
fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar 
amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if they 
take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and antennas 
colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly few 
hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the contracts. I 
believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate enough 
antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible that 
the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he 
pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates to 
buy it are shrinking.
ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost 
justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to 
something fair.

But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies, jsut 
because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify 
spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.

If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its to 
time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local 7 
eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of antennas, 
you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits it 
offers.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Blake Bowers" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


> Hmmm
>
> I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
> emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.
>
> I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
> to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.
>
> And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
> in 18 states.
>
> I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>
>> Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One 
>> company
>> I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I
>> wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small
>> backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel).
>>
>> I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for 
>> a
>> waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same
>> thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal
>> with farmers and private tower owners.
>>
>> /Eje
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>>
>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>>
>> I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
>> built my own tower next to it... ;)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Jerry Richardson" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>>> No,
>>> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations
>> are
>>> listed.
>>>
>>> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __
>>> Jerry Richardso

Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Blake Bowers

Hmmm

I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.

I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.

And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
in 18 states.

I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


> Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One company 
> I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I 
> wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small 
> backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel).
>
> I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for a 
> waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same 
> thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal 
> with farmers and private tower owners.
>
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Eric Rogers" 
>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>
> I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
> built my own tower next to it... ;)
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> ----------
> From: "Jerry Richardson" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>> No,
>> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations
> are
>> listed.
>>
>> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>>
>>
>>
>> ______
>> Jerry Richardson
>> airCloud Communications
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>> Ever price them?
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>>  wrote:
>>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>>>
>>> www.att.com/towers
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> VP Operations
>>> 925-260-4119
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread eje

Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One company I 
talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I wanted was 
a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small backhaul panel that 
could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel). 

I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for a 
waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same thing. 
So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal with farmers 
and private tower owners. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Eric Rogers" 

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
built my own tower next to it... ;)

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?


-
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From: "Jerry Richardson" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

> No,
> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations
are
> listed.
>
> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>
>
>
> __
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
> Ever price them?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>  wrote:
>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>>
>> www.att.com/towers
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry Richardson
>> VP Operations
>> 925-260-4119
>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Eric Rogers

I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
built my own tower next to it... ;)

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?


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From: "Jerry Richardson" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

> No,
> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations
are
> listed.
>
> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>
>
>
> __
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
> Ever price them?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>  wrote:
>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>>
>> www.att.com/towers
>>
>>
>>
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>> 925-260-4119
>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett

Right, I just don't have first hand knowledge of those other places.


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From: "Blake Bowers" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

> As well as various other owners where they are co-locating
>
>
>
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>
>> oh, and that's not all of AT&T's cell locations.  I know of many 
>> locations
>> they have that aren't listed  they're owned by American Tower.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:33 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>>> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Jerry Richardson" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>>
>>>> No,
>>>> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations are
>>>> listed.
>>>>
>>>> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __
>>>> Jerry Richardson
>>>> airCloud Communications
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of RickG
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>>>
>>>> Ever price them?
>>>> -RickG
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.att.com/towers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry Richardson
>>>>> VP Operations
>>>>> 925-260-4119
>>>>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email
>>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Blake Bowers

As well as various other owners where they are co-locating





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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


> oh, and that's not all of AT&T's cell locations.  I know of many locations
> they have that aren't listed  they're owned by American Tower.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:33 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
>> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------
>> From: "Jerry Richardson" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>
>>> No,
>>> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations are
>>> listed.
>>>
>>> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______
>>> Jerry Richardson
>>> airCloud Communications
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of RickG
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>>>
>>> Ever price them?
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>>>  wrote:
>>>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>>>>
>>>> www.att.com/towers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> VP Operations
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>>>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett

oh, and that's not all of AT&T's cell locations.  I know of many locations 
they have that aren't listed  they're owned by American Tower.


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From: "Mike Hammett" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?
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>> No,
>> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations are
>> listed.
>>
>> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>>
>>
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>> __
>> Jerry Richardson
>> airCloud Communications
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>> -Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of RickG
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
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>> Ever price them?
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>>  wrote:
>>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett

I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?


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From: "Jerry Richardson" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

> No,
> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations are
> listed.
>
> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.
>
>
>
> __
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers
>
> Ever price them?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
>  wrote:
>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>>
>> www.att.com/towers
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry Richardson
>> VP Operations
>> 925-260-4119
>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-07 Thread Jerry Richardson

No,
I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations are
listed.

I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.

 
 
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airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

Ever price them?
-RickG

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
 wrote:
> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>
>
> www.att.com/towers
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Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

2009-01-07 Thread RickG

Ever price them?
-RickG

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
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