Hello WSG,
I 've only been on the list for a couple of weeks and I've found the
discussion really interesting. Anyway...
I am working on a .NET CMS product and we are currently wrestling to
make the output standards compliant which is proving to be tricky. Does
anybody know of any off the
Hi Everyone, I apologize if this is off topic but this is one of the few
places that I would be able to talk to web designers and get their opinions
on this.
I've been attending school to get an Associates degree in Digital Media. The
program is 18 months and ranges from html to 3d graphics. I'm
The Web Page Design for Designers website provides the following method of
dead centre:
http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/thebox/deadcentre4.html
I hope this helps.
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From: glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject:
Gabriel,
You're over halfway through an 18 month course. Finish it.
You may no longer learn anything of any technical benefit for your plans for
future, but a qualification is invaluable in life due to the absurd rules by
which society judges your worth. I have a few qualifications that I figure
eheheh 'before
computers were used in design' sounds really old sorry
=)
I
think having a degree is alot better than just having a portfolio. I guess its
really what you put in, is what you get out. Like you could still do a degree
and just do the bare minimum just keeping up, not putting
My short answer:
A uni degree is more than just a piece of paper, its a statement that you were
determined and dedicated enought to finish what you'd started. I dropped out in 3rd
of 4 years and even though it hasn't affected me yet, I worry that I'll be wishing I
had finished it when I apply
For this thread, answers would be better directed to Gabriel offlist.
Russ
My question to you is this: Do you think it would be wise for me to finish
the program and get the degree even though I'm not learning what I want to
be learning, or should I just call it off and focus on web design?
a degree might not be essential to start out...
but in 5 to ten years when you are trying to get senior positions you
will be MUCH better for it
Gabriel Vasquez wrote:
Hi Everyone, I apologize if this is off topic but this is one of the few
places that I would be able to talk to web designers
Having
the degree is one thing, but enjoying what you do is another thing
completely. I don't think you'll find many ppl who are successful at what
they do but totally hate doingit... If you get into an IT job before
you finish then you'll havea headstart on everyone
else.
-Original
I'm following behind the curve on this one as it seems people have put
this to rest. However, I really do not want to be grouped into a
category of people who believe in standards above all else. I am a
print designer first and foremost.
My response, below, was really more about shock than
Mike,
While it can be difficult with a small client and budget (and a son who
comes up with rinky-dinky graphics), the best strategy for any
design/communication work is to discuss and agree on (and formalise) a
brief for your work... its strategy, objectives, type of person you
want to
table width=100%
Thanks - it was originally broken only in IE, hence the title, then I tried
to fix it and broke it in both.
Now working in both.
Alan
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My response, below, was really more about shock than anything else. I
couldn't believe that somebody would propose to take the visual design
out of things. If that were the case, I would probably stop building
websites tommorrow. In reality, it would need to be much higher than
7% to get me to
Neerav
I understand the issue surrounding browser usage but this is only part
of the picture - an important one, but still only a part. I don't know
the number of people using handheld - no one does - I do know it's a
growing trend.
The point I'm trying to press is the extensibility of your
Hi there
At the end of the day its your decision!
I did 2 years B.Architecture, then abandoned the whole thing. 4 years
later, I started my own business, which I have now been running for 5
years. Actually, I have dropped out of Uni twice.
You don't need a Degree. There have been positive
Hi there
At the end of the day its your decision!
I did 2 years B.Architecture, then abandoned the whole thing. 4 years
later, I started my own business, which I have now been running for 5
years. Actually, I have dropped out of Uni twice.
You don't need a Degree. There have been positive
I do agree with the person that said you should go ahead and finish the
course work since you are already half way through it.
That said, from my experiences in the job market, what matters more than a
degree to potential employers is a good portfolio and experience working on
projects.
Russ already stopped this thread. Please do not continue with it on list.
P
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I attended earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts with a double emphasis in
Graphic Design and Photography. This was between 1995 and 2000, and I
had no formal training in Web Design. They didn't even offer classes
for it at my school, other than some Flash stuff in a Multimedia class
(which i never
Rev Bob wrote:-
I do have a real comment. I think the color of the W3C icons is
beating hell out of your blues. You either need to get rid of them
(as in http://www.csszengarden.com/) or do something to give that
orange-yellow a context.
Thanks - I'll look into that.
Don't answer his
WHO ARE YOU?
Don't reply to the graphic on the WHO ARE YOU? mail: it's a mail harvester.
Those in the know won't but we may have some new guys here.
If we all focus out attention on him, we should be able to shut his heart
down :o)
Bloody annoys me, this crap on the web.
Mike Pepper
Accessible Web
Don't reply to the graphic on the WHO ARE YOU? mail: it's a mail harvester.
Those in the know won't but we may have some new guys here.
If we all focus out attention on him, we should be able to shut his heart
down :o)
Bloody annoys me, this crap on the web.
Mike Pepper
Accessible Web
Don't reply to the graphic on the WHO ARE YOU? mail: it's a mail harvester.
Those in the know won't but we may have some new guys here.
If we all focus out attention on him, we should be able to shut his heart
down :o)
Bloody annoys me, this crap on the web.
Mike Pepper
Accessible Web
Hi Kevin,
Try:
http://www.skyzyx.com/archives/94.php
Multi older versions of IE + instructions on how to get them to all play
nice on one machine.
Brian
Kevin McMonagle wrote:
Hi all,
I need older browsers for testing sites.
Is there anywhere i can download ie windows pre version 6?
On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:40:03 -0500, Kevin McMonagle wrote:
Is there anywhere i can download ie windows pre version 6?
http://browsers.evolt.org/
All the browsers you can eat.
Or something like that... :)
warmly,
Lea
--
Lea de Groot
Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/
Brisbane,
Kevin,
You should look here for a low-down
http://www.insert-title.com/web_design/?page=articles/dev/multi_IE
then pick 'em up at http://browsers.evolt.org/
Helped me no end.
Mike Pepper
Accessible Website Developer
www.seowebsitepromotion.com
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From: [EMAIL
displaying
the ability to finish something you started
I hear this comment thrown about alot as one
of the major benefits of getting a degree, frankly I think that's absolute
garbage.
If a degree is reward for perserverence,all
members of this list should be given honorary degrees today
The ASP.NET framework does not produce standards compliant XHTML. Hence, no
off-the-shelf forum component for ASP.NET will produce valid XHTML.
You have four main options when aiming for standards compliance in ASP.NET.
1) Visit www.xhtmlwebcontrols.com and purchase their product. It replaces
Hi
Surely a .net developer can write their own function to output compliant
markup? seems strange that a language forces someone to use inbuilt modules.
Cheers
James
SomeNewKid wrote:
The ASP.NET framework does not produce standards compliant XHTML. Hence, no
off-the-shelf forum component for
The ability to finish what you've started is good.
But I think, the ability to give up what you've started if you find it
useless is more better!
Cheers
Peter A. Shevtsov
Gabriel Vasquez wrote:
Hi Everyone, I apologize if this is off topic but this is one of the few
places that I would be
New redesign for
digital web, looks cool.
www.digital-web.com
Tim
HillComputer
AssociatesGraphic Artisttel: +612 9937
0792fax: +612 9937 0546[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New redesign for digital web, looks cool.
www.digital-web.com
Wow.
Nice, not really sure about how the different areas of the page gel at
higher resolutions... but so many nice bits. The current section
indicators are cute, the what's new title rocks, the tabs are cool. And
somewhere,
Fair question, James.
A forum component for ASP.NET will not output HTML (input type=text
id=Title /). Rather, it will inject ASP.NET server controls (asp:Textbox
id=Title runat=server /).
The component developers are not forced to do this. They *could* output
static and valid XHTML if they
AH, you're like me Kay - you see something cool then you start looking
around for a project to use it on. Where can I do that? I have to have
a site that's ready for re-development again surely!
Then for me, when the time comes to do a brand new site, I find all those
ideas vanish from my
Via Mezzoblue:
http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/05/13/gasp_tables/index.php
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Title: Link on csscreator
Sure
is, thanks.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 14 May 2004 2:12
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [WSG] Link
on csscreator
http://www.csscreator.com/attributes/index.php
Is this what you were
Justin French said:
...But personally, I'd find very little satisfaction drawing inspiration
directly from bookmarks. I'd much rather take every pull-quote I've
ever seen, throw them all in a blender, and come up with my OWN
solution appropriate to the job at hand
I know what you mean.
its all in the talent and creative side of your brain, son!
It's easy Mike! See that button on the top right of your keyboard? The one marked design? Just press it!
;)
Oh OK I'll say something useful. Here's what I do. When coming up with a concept I sit down with a big piece of paper and I
Michael.
We're in danger of getting smacked on the keyboard hands by the List
Mum, but I'll quickly say:
Design is a discipline, as Peter Gifford has said, that benefits from
learning, whether (if you are able to teach yourself to see) by
yourself or, usually much better, in a serious
... heya all - just joined the list for interest's
sake and am slowly making my way through some of the posted CSS-savvy sites.
Somewhere along the way someone decided tables and in particular nested tables
are a bad thing (tm) - I am curious as to the reasoning/history behind this, and
May I ask what sort of design books you use for inspiration? I have
wondered myself where to get inspiration from. So far, I just scout around
the Internet and look for other sites in the same industry or of the same
subject matter. However, I tend to think that limits my brain somewhat i.e.
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