Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content

2005-01-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gunlaug Srtun wrote: I know there are browsers that doesn't make use of these, but how many shortcomings in browsers should we cover up for - if we want them to catch up? Among those browsers the largest percentage is taken up by IE, which is unlikely to change before Longhorn comes out (and even

RE: [WSG] .php extension

2005-01-25 Thread Peter Goddard
If your host has set up Apache correctly, naming the file anything.php should enable you to view it in your browser. Do you have Apache installed on your development machine? Does the file work there? Have you got the same Apache version as your host? Have you got the same version of PHP as

re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [WSG] .php extension

2005-01-25 Thread csslist
BTW surely you are not suggesting that Coldfusion is a serious competitor for PHP5? - not one for this list though? :-) a serious competitor? haha php wont catch up to coldfusions user base for a long time and that probably wont happen at all unless php takes on an underlying structure from

Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content

2005-01-25 Thread Gunlaug Srtun
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Users relying on screenreaders really don't have the same choice of simply downloading a better browser, as the assistive technology would not support it... Valid point, although it looks more and more like there's a lack of knowledge about what's available, than a lack

[WSG] Web site review please

2005-01-25 Thread John Britsios
Hi Web Standards Advocate. I would appreciate if you would review my web site, giving me some advices, critiques or comments to improve. Please see here: http://www.webnauts.net/ Notice: I am aware there is a minor problem with the "Jump to Navigation" link in Opera, which I am going to

[WSG] ID and class case sensitivity - potential CSS hack?

2005-01-25 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I don't like hacks, especially when they add hieroglyphics and other nonsense to clean css. Still, especially when it comes to the box model difference between IE5 (Windows) and others, it's sometimes necessary.. Can using the lack of case sensitivity in older browsers be a viable

Re: [WSG] Floats dont float - can you see what i've got wrong please?

2005-01-25 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day the page is at http://www.grandchesterdesigns.com.au/Buffets.htm - I'd be REALLY grateful if i could get this page looking proper by the weekend, so if anyone could help me, I'd be most grateful. Add the following to #menucontainer: clear:left; float:left; Remove the following from

[WSG] Floats dont float - can you see what i've got wrong please?

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Kear
I'm away from all my reference materials, and have net access only 30 minutes a day, so I hope you'll forgive me asking a simple questoin - I've tried everything I can think of and havent been able to fix my problem. the page is at http://www.grandchesterdesigns.com.au/Buffets.htm -

[WSG] Website Review - BRAZILIAN Portal

2005-01-25 Thread Genau Junior
Hi. I did some fixes, after you comments. http://www.meucarronoov.com.br Please, i would appreciate more suggestions. Thank tou. Genau Jr Webdesigner ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] Correct URL Website Review - BRAZILIAN Portal

2005-01-25 Thread Genau Junior
The Correct URL is www.meucarronovo.com.br sorry, was a typing mistake. Genau Junior wrote: Hi. I did some fixes, after you comments. http://www.meucarronoov.com.br Please, i would appreciate more suggestions. Thank tou. Genau Jr Webdesigner

Re: [WSG] Web site review please

2005-01-25 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:04:34 +0100, John Britsios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate if you would review my web site, giving me some advices, critiques or comments to improve. Please see here: http://www.webnauts.net/ ... It seems peculiar to me, at least, that a --

Re: [WSG] Web site review please

2005-01-25 Thread John Britsios
Dear David, Thanks for you kind critique/comment. Though I do not understand your point. So far I am informed, accessible and usable web sites should have fonts with a minimum size equal to12px, and that they should be resizeable. I am using 0.8em, which is resizeable, and that is equal, for

Re: [WSG] Web site review please

2005-01-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
John Britsios wrote: Please see here: http://www.webnauts.net/ Had a look around with Opera7.54, FF1.0 and IE6. The page looks fine when I don't stress anything. I like the font a bit larger though, and your pages are a bit weak when I step it up. It simply looks a bit strange when I use larger

[WSG] Image alignment and text

2005-01-25 Thread Chris Taylor
Hi, Is there a CSS equivalent for the age-old image properties 'align=left' and 'align=right'. When these are used any text that is next to the image is automatically lined up with the top of the image. Using 'float: left' keeps the text level with the bottom of the image. Example: Source: pimg

Re: [WSG] Image alignment and text

2005-01-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Taylor wrote: Is there a CSS equivalent for the age-old image properties 'align=left' and 'align=right'. When these are used any text that is next to the image is automatically lined up with the top of the image. The way we usually do it looks more like this: style img{ float: left; }

RE: [WSG] Image alignment and text

2005-01-25 Thread Chris Taylor
Excellent, many thanks. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunlaug Sørtun Sent: 25 January 2005 14:28 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Image alignment and text Chris Taylor wrote: Is there a CSS equivalent for the

Re: [WSG] Future XHTML Proposals?

2005-01-25 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
Dear Ben, I think that blogs perform much of the role you envision as going missing. They are or can be free, easy to set up and use, fine for a wide range of uses (with a little fiddling), etc. Blogger's templates are xhtml 1.0 strict, though some of the extensions mess that up (I know because I

[WSG] Containers and frames

2005-01-25 Thread Robin Lauryssen-Mitchell
This is my first attempt at using Containers: http://www.rpehlm.me.uk/rpehlm/home_con.php Take a look if you like and/or can stand it :-) I used to use framesets quite a lot. Is it considered good practice to use containers with framesets or is some other vogue in fashion at the moment? If so

[WSG] browser snapshot services?

2005-01-25 Thread Justin Thorp
In my office we are currently using a browser snapshot service to take a look at what a web site in a variety of older browsers and computer configurations. It is very convenient because in about 5 minutes I can get a good feel for what a web site looks like in just about every configuration

Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content

2005-01-25 Thread Michael Wilson
russ - maxdesign wrote: There is no right or wrong. There are the two basic arguments. After doing *allot* of reading last night, both here, on other lists, and in other forums such as Accessify Forum (01), I see that there are indeed valid arguments to support both approaches. I thought this

Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content

2005-01-25 Thread Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson wrote: After doing *allot* of reading last night, both here, on other lists, and in other forums such as Accessify Forum (01), I see that there are indeed valid arguments to support both approaches. Sorry about that... I left off the link for those who might be interested.

RE: [WSG] browser snapshot services?

2005-01-25 Thread Chris W. Parker
Justin Thorp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:56 AM said: In my office we are currently using a browser snapshot service to take a look at what a web site in a variety of older browsers and computer configurations. It is very convenient because in about 5 minutes I

Re: [WSG] browser snapshot services?

2005-01-25 Thread Andrew famiano
I use Browsercam, it works really good http://browsercam.com/ On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:53:30 -0800, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Thorp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:56 AM said: In my office we are currently using a browser snapshot service to

Re: [WSG] .php extension

2005-01-25 Thread Bruno Torres
Look for the line: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php make it: AddType application/x-httpd-php .html .php I know that the PHP documentation tell you to use AddType, but the correct to use should be AddHandler. Yes, I know, AddType works, but AddType is used to inform the user agent how to

[WSG] IE 5 Mac choking on CSS?

2005-01-25 Thread Tom Livingston
Hello all, Here's my page: http://66.155.251.20/picotte.com/property/ Can anyone see what might be causing IE 5.2.3 Mac (OS X 10.3.x) to choke? 2 separate installs here will not load this page, but other pages are fine... Thanks a bunch. - Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist

[WSG] X-STANDARD

2005-01-25 Thread Ryan Moore
hi group. was just on the web and was looking into x-standard, i'm currently using dreamweaver mx 2004. anyone have any feedback on x-standard and how it compares to dreamweaver? or possibly another web standard editor that ensures standards?

Re: [WSG] Right aligned lists...

2005-01-25 Thread russ - maxdesign
One method is here http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/08.htm I searched the archives and could not find an answer to my question... Is it possible to generate right-aligned lists with CSS and have the bullet on the right instead of the left? TIA! devendra

Re: [WSG] IE 5 Mac choking on CSS?

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Brown
Tom Livingston wrote: Hello all, Here's my page: http://66.155.251.20/picotte.com/property/ Can anyone see what might be causing IE 5.2.3 Mac (OS X 10.3.x) to choke? 2 separate installs here will not load this page, but other pages are fine... Tom haven't got time to test the page, but I've had

[WSG] a train wreck of css

2005-01-25 Thread Dennis Murphy Anderson
Attempting to merge several different rules to get the desired effect has created a train wreck on the page. Everything was fine yesterday, before I attempted to add in the navigation menu. I adapted an existing code and placed it into a column ... but it is an expanding list and the overflow:

[WSG] Right aligned lists...

2005-01-25 Thread Devendra Shrikhande
I searched the archives and could not find an answer to my question... Is it possible to generate right-aligned lists with CSS and have the bullet on the right instead of the left? TIA! ¤ devendra ¤ ** The discussion list for

[WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-25 Thread Darren Wood
Hey All... Is the 'name' attribute depreciated in XHTML1.0 strict? If so how do i get around the fact the PHP only processes raw post data if its passed using the name atribute. Does anyone know how to get PHP to play ball? Or is this just something I've got to deal with...? Replies off list

Re: [WSG] Right aligned lists...

2005-01-25 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I searched the archives and could not find an answer to my question... Is it possible to generate right-aligned lists with CSS and have the bullet on the right instead of the left? Not really. You can easily simulate this effect using Generated Content and maybe CSS21 counters for ordered lists.

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-25 Thread Terrence Wood
This post is on-topic. The name attribute is deprecated on all elements except form controls. So you can continue to use input name=foo type=text /, but you can't do div name=bar. Terrence Wood. Darren Wood wrote: Hey All... Is the 'name' attribute depreciated in XHTML1.0 strict? If so how do i

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Darren Wood wrote: Is the 'name' attribute depreciated in XHTML1.0 strict? If so how do i get around the fact the PHP only processes raw post data if its passed using the name atribute. Does anyone know how to get PHP to play ball? For form controls (but not the FORM itself) name is still a

[WSG] Sound without Plug-in/HTML Sound?

2005-01-25 Thread berry
Can we add sound without using a plug-in and still being compatible with the different browsers? Thanks in advance Berry ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] X-STANDARD

2005-01-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Ryan Moore wrote: hi group. was just on the web and was looking into x-standard, i'm currently using dreamweaver mx 2004. anyone have any feedback on x-standard and how it compares to dreamweaver? Apples and oranges: DW is a standalone application that you run on your machine, while x-standard

RE: [WSG] Right aligned lists...

2005-01-25 Thread Devendra Shrikhande
Thanks Russ - purfect! devendra -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:41 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Right aligned lists... One method is here

Re: [WSG] Containers and frames

2005-01-25 Thread designer
Hi Robin, - Original Message - From: Robin Lauryssen-Mitchell To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [WSG] Containers and frames This is my first attempt at using Containers: http://www.rpehlm.me.uk/rpehlm/home_con.php Take a look if you like

[WSG] thanks to whoever winged me :-)

2005-01-25 Thread Neerav
Im guessing it must have been one of the aussie bookcrossers so thanks to whoever winged me yesterday :-) Here are some sydney stats while I have access to them: I think its interesting that the average age of the top 50 sydney bookcrossers is 34.7, and for the top 50 Aussies its 37.8 Sorted

Re: [WSG] Sound without Plug-in/HTML Sound?

2005-01-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
berry wrote: Can we add sound without using a plug-in and still being compatible with the different browsers? In a word, no. -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see

Re: [WSG] thanks to whoever winged me :-)

2005-01-25 Thread Neerav
sorry, obviously posted to the wrong list! Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bhatt.id.au/photos/ http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Neerav wrote: Im guessing it must have been one of the

Re: [WSG] Heading without line break

2005-01-25 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 25 Jan 2005, at 6:55 pm, Kornel Lesinski wrote: How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an Hx tag? e.g. h3My heading/h3 and some more text. I want the words and some more text. to appear on the same line. How would I do this? display: run-in; does exactly what you're

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-25 Thread The Bo$$
What about frames? Use ID too? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] a train wreck of css

2005-01-25 Thread Bert Doorn
Hi Dennis http://dma.shorturl.com/test/coffee.html ... Attempting to merge several different rules to get the desired effect has created a train wreck on the page. I think it's had a severe hack-attack. As in, the style sheet looks like a hotch-potch of hacks. I'd go back to basics. As far as

Re: [WSG] ID and class case sensitivity - potential CSS hack?

2005-01-25 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 25 Jan 2005, at 6:59 pm, Bert Doorn wrote: Can using the lack of case sensitivity in older browsers be a viable alternative to more complex hacks? Has anyone tried this, and are there any drawbacks with specific newer browsers (and perhaps Mac browsers - is IE5 Mac case sensitive)? Here's

[WSG] NZ Photo gallery test please

2005-01-25 Thread Neerav
Hi could a few people have a quick look at my newly constructed New Zealand photo gallery to make sure there aren't any obvious display errors? I've already checked it with the W3C validators, Firefox 1.0, IE6 SP1, IE 5.5 and Opera 7.52 FYI It's a heavily hacked version of