Re: [WSG] Issues making compliant code using Joomla! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-08-15 Thread Kim Kruse
wrong account ;) Sorry for that. Kim --- http://www.geekministry.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-15 Thread Steve Green
Thanks Steve for the clarification. OK, in the risk of showing more ignorant, I still have question. My understanding on WCAG guidelines, are the fundamental principle of DDA, Section 508 and similar law in other countries correct? When a website is to be DDA or Section 508 compliant, for lack

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-15 Thread michael.brockington
An individual who brings a case under the DDA can seek monetary compensation. However, the law is supposed to be a last resort, and users are expected to give the website owner the opportunity to make the website accessible before resorting to law. Failure to do so suggests that the plaintiff

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Schalk Neethling
Hi James, To my mind, the user always needs to initiate it. Regards, Schalk James Leslie wrote: Hi, This is a more best practices question than strictly standards, but I *think* it is on-topic, apologies if not and please mail me off-list if you feel that is more appropriate. I have a

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread veine
Hello James; I *think* it needs to be a choice of the user - if not it'll add to the confusion for screen readers and also annoyance for the user waiting for the download and start of the music. Regards ~Veine On 15 Aug 2008 at 15:14, James Leslie wrote: Hi, This is a more

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Nick Taylor
Good morning James, If it helps, what you will find is the typical user experience on band websites is that the audio player automatically starts within 2-3 seconds of the site fully loading. The file size of the player and the audio file are both small so the site isn¹t slow when being viewed

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Jason Pruim
On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:14 AM, James Leslie wrote: Hi, This is a more best practices question than strictly standards, but I *think* it is on-topic, apologies if not and please mail me off- list if you feel that is more appropriate. I have a band for a client who are requesting that on

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Gonzalo González Mora
I think it shouldn't automatically play the songs, it's really annoying from my point of view, specially when the volume is set to 100%. If you really need to play the songs automatically, I would suggest setting the volume to 50% or somewhere near that value. You should make the player visible so

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Nancy Johnson
If I come to a site with music playing, I leave it immediately without looking at the site. I don't know best practices, but I believe the user needs to be in control. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Nick Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning James, If it helps, what you will find is

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
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Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Hi, same here - I personally hate autoplay on site, I'm gone in a sec I also think this does affect anyone - personal preference or not - people can be caught out by this, in office environments (as mentioned before) as well as impaired users And though a band site might warrant the

RE: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread michael.brockington
On a more positive note - you could point out that having an embedded player would allow the band to offer the user a choice of music, which would be a better option than alienating many users. (Offering a client a 'better option' usually goes down a lot better than 'don't do that!') From an

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread kate
Auto start false then let the audience choose if to play or not. Kate http://jungaling.com/Malaysia/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music On a more

RE: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread James Leslie
Thanks for all the responses. The majority seem to pretty much agree with my view that it would be better to have the user initiate the music. The player I'm planning on using does have very clear controls for playback and volume, so if the client does *insist* on auto-playback I will definitely

RE: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
IMHO, an unacceptable autoplay web site: ** AutoPlay Loud Music Warning! Turn DOWN your speakers! ** http://www.daveclarkfive.com ** AutoPlay Loud Music Warning! Turn DOWN your speakers! ** Dennis *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread kate
Love it lolol Its my era of course Kate - Original Message - From: Dennis Lapcewich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music IMHO, an unacceptable autoplay web site: ** AutoPlay Loud Music

Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites

2008-08-15 Thread Andrew Boyd
Hi Elizabeth, true, there has only been one successful litigation action. The people behind a certain Grocery site might be getting a little nervous at the moment :) What worries me is that there are many larger government sites in Australia that are a lot less accessible than that one... I