Andrew Maben schreef:
Further, it's a misunderstanding of the dynamics of the relationship
to speak of users visiting your site. On the contrary, the user is
extending an invitation to your site to visit HER browser, on HER
computer, in HER home or workplace, so you (we) are beholden to the
Julián Landerreche schreef:
So, is it valid to mix inline and block elements (as siblings) as long
as the inline elements are children of a block element?
I think it is valid, but this will change in HTML5 if I'm correct. In
its specs it says that a div for instance, can have either inline
Hi,
I'm quite amazed by the somewhat nervous responses of people who are
afraid of 'strict seperation', cause there is no such thing and there
won't be any just because you use the term front-end developer'. Of
course front-end developers need some basic knowledge of other areas of
web
John Horner schreef:
I'm interested in the front end part of the Dutch group's name.
We were having a discussion at work the other day about which skills
you should have to have in order to call yourself a web developer.
I just finished a project which required knowledge of the following:
Rimantas Liubertas schreef:
...
To sum things up, for me a front-end developer uses at least one of the
following techniques:
- (X)HTML
- CSS
- JavaScript (client side)
- Flash (?)
I think that even for front-end developer some level of the knowledge
about web servers and HTTP is
Angel Martin Alganza schreef:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 10:19:51PM +0200, Sander Aarts wrote:
I alway make skip links to all major parts of the page, being the
different levels of navigation, main content, sub content (side bar) and
sometimes even the breadcrumb if it's not to close
Lucien Stals schreef:
What do the rest of you do? How many of us *don't* have to be a
jack-of-all-trades?
Me.
I work at a fairly big company (100+ employees, about half of which
build websites, other departments focus on SEO, (email) marketing and
trainings related to internet). I only
Matthew Pennell schreef:
On 03/07/07, *Sander Aarts* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday, PPK announced that he and others are busy setting up a
Dutch guild of Front-end Developers:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2007/07/gilde_van_front.html
James Jeffery schreef:
As for certification, its useless as one pointed out, technologys on
the internet change all the time.
Lukily for me i know alot on the web standards side of things.
Well, that knowledge is useless too then as web technology changes all
the time.
Even though things
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
I think you missed the major point of the last reply - do you have any
evidence that what you are doing _does_ make things easier for AT users?
I base that on research done by others (I'm not a researcher). For
instance
Sarah Peeke (XERT) schreef:
Hi Jermayn,
Just a quick question.
Why we still coding/ hacking for IE5???
Also, my website browser stats have IE5.x at about 2% - not much I know,
but when you also consider Opera, IE5 Mac and Safari also share 1-2% of
my audience each, then, by looking
Hello all,
Here's some front-end news from the Netherlands:
Yesterday, PPK announced that he and others are busy setting up a Dutch
guild of Front-end Developers:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2007/07/gilde_van_front.html
(only in Dutch for now).
The general idea is to
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
On 30 Jun 2007, at 11:34 AM, Sander Aarts wrote:
My 'skip to' menu is like a map of the page and I believe it benefits
more people than it hinders.
OK, your pages might be complex, and so you feel the need to provide
'road maps' for people to find their way around
Tate Johnson schreef:
On 29/06/2007, at 6:52 PM, David Little wrote:
It shows my limited knowledge of this area that I wasn't aware that
you could put your alternative content within the object tag --
that's going to be very useful. This seems to be the best way forward
for me at present with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:20 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Skip to Content?
I alway make skip links to all major parts
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
On 30 Jun 2007, at 9:58 AM, Sander Aarts wrote:
So you don't care at all about the cognitively challenged visitors
to your site then?
You're challenging me now as I don't have a clue what your talking
about. How does adding 'skip links' make a site less
usable
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...with a paper doc the user always gets to see the front cover.
Unless they're blind.
Well, they wont be seeing anything else then either, so semantics and
hierarchy of headings doesn't really matter in that case. Unless they
have it in
Sunday John schreef:
Does a content based site respond to search engine than a well
meta-tag, keyword e.t.c site?
If I'm correct search engines like Google give extra weight to keywords
in meta-tags, but only if they appear in the content of the site as
well. That way they know that these
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
How can you search for a company when you don't know it exists?
How do you find out what goods a certain company sells if don't know
what they are?
You search for the goods or services that you want - don't you?
Not always. If I want to know what campagnes
David Little schreef:
I think in this case it would be a good idea to have both links, e.g.
something like:
div class=skip
a href=#contentSkip to content/a | a href=#navigationSkip
to navigation/a
/div
I alway make skip links to all major parts of the page, being the
different levels of
Tom Livingston schreef:
On 6/27/07, David Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a
QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas
would be very gratefully received!
I use this:
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
Sander Aarts wrote:
How can you search for a company when you don't know it exists?
How do you find out what goods a certain company sells if don't know
what they are?
Sorry, Sander, but that logic escapes me. Of course I don't know what
goods a certain company
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
On 29 Jun 2007, at 5:44 AM, Sander Aarts wrote:
Nick Gleitzman schreef:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...with a paper doc the user always gets to see the front cover.
Unless they're blind.
Well, they wont be seeing anything else then either, so semantics
Christian Montoya schreef:
Hello list,
I have a test page set up at
http://lab.christianmontoya.com/point-nine-nine-percent/
and on this page the 3rd and 4th rows have divs with 49.6% and 49.99%
widths, respectively. These behave as expected in Firefox, Safari, and
IE, but in Opera 9+ their
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/how_to_style_thumbnail_and_caption.asp
Although I use dl maybe more often than some on this list think I
should, I'm not sure whether I'd choose it for this job (the one Jamie
is asking about). In the example given by Thierry the
Richard Ishida schreef:
It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, but I'd rather give the
problem to Opera users than IE users.
Ouch! That hurts man...
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Why do need a POST anyway if I may ask?
cheers,
Sander
Richard Ishida schreef:
I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in translation, but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O
Original:
Alan Trick schreef:
I've become a bit cynical with the W3C and their recent slowness to come
out with workable specs (XHTML 2 anyone?). There has only been a very
small advance in web technology in the last few years I've been in the
industry. The WHATWG seems to be taking up the torch well. I
Ross Bruniges schreef:
the whole point is that there shouldn't be a javaScript-free menu that provides
this functionality!! CSS is merely a format for styling documents and should
not be used for functionality like that!
I've heard this a lot, but if changing color on hovering a link is
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
I came up with this:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp
But it requires to move the text out of the button :(
In Opera (9.21) not all of the text is clickable.
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Pierre-Henri Lavigne schreef:
The staff members of your enterprise in charge of selling services / web sites
can use the following text as an argument to not support IE Mac:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/internetexplorer/internetexplorer.aspx?pid=internetexplorer
They only recommend
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
I believe what's considered best practice is to not use them at all
It's still best practice to use label
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Robert O'Rourke schreef:
Hello,
being able to resize the flash text is pretty sweet. I don't know if
you've ever seen sifr (http://www.mikeindustries.com/sifr/) but it's a
well put together accessible solution for putting nice anti-aliased
fonts on a page. If you can extend it to be
Matthew Pennell schreef:
On 08/06/07, *Lea de Groot* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:27:46 +0100, Matthew Pennell wrote:
Auto-submitting dropdowns are not usable by keyboard users.
More information, please? :)
Auto-submit dropdowns
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
plug
src=http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp; /
It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in
Opera
9 and Firefox 2.
Please try again, I just noticed that I commented a return false statement
in the script.
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
Still the same. In the vertical menu only the 3rd item (Articles: E-K)
pops
up/unfolds when navigating with a keyboard on Fx2 and Op9 (on WindowsXP).
Sander,
You need to use the *enter* key to trigger the dropdown, did you try that?
Ah, had not
Dave Lane schreef:
Drupal uses php as its template language, too, which is a breath of
fresh air (given that PHP *is* a template language, I find it amusing
that so many people insist on inventing new templating languages
written in PHP but with different syntaxes and without all of PHP's
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
plug src=http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp; /
It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in Opera
9 and Firefox 2.
cheers,
Sander
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Paul Novitski schreef:
documents be written according to the prose of the specification and
not just the machine readable components of it.
The DTD almost always errs towards the liberal, it is expected that
That's a very interesting assertion and gets right to the heart of
many of the
Nick Fitzsimons schreef:
On 29 May 2007, at 02:10:02, Sander Aarts wrote:
I'm glad the designers I work with know that rounded corners can be a
real pain in the ass, so they always ask before implementing them in
the design.
I want your designers! ;-)
Well, it's only because they know
Nick Fitzsimons schreef:
On 29 May 2007, at 16:20:28, Barney Carroll wrote:
Would you argue that a discussion of the use of Jaws with Microsoft
Excel (which is, judging by the manufacturer's FAQs, one of its
commonest uses) is related to Web Standards?
No, because MS and Web Standards ar
kevin mcmonagle schreef:
The sliding doors method, or any that ive seen, only works if all the
tabs are the same colour.
I don't see why. If every tab has its own id you can define different
background images for each tab.
Nick Gleitzman wrote:
You've got the right starting point - but
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
You're right, one would need to pollute the markup:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/scalable.asp
2 spans inside the link?
I must admit that I haven't really read the whole article, but I can't
see why you'd have to use 2, each with their own className. Why not
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
So we can use transparent images. If we go with a single SPAN, then the
background image used for the A would show *behind* the image used for the
SPAN (through the transparent area of the image).
I know it's uggly, but this article is 4 or 5 years old :)
Ah, for
Hi Stuart,
Stuart Foulstone schreef:
I don't quite see how you get your possible interpretation.
To summarise what it says:
1. for implicit association, enclose the form control in the label.
2. if you use implicit association (i.e. enclose the form control in the
label) it can only contain
Stuart Foulstone schreef:
But, in the W3C recomendations for form labels it gives implicit/explicit
labels as two distinct methods (one not using the for).
(http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.9.1 )
On that page it also says To associate a label with another control
Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:
For a definition list I could only really come up with three examples:
1) A glossary
2) FAQs
3) An interview transcript (when combined with blockquotes).
(All have a sort of QA thing goin' on.)
Does a form not have a sort of QA going on then!? I think you gave
Hello Mike,
Mike at Green-Beast.com schreef:
If one tries hard enough, it seems anything can be considered a list of
sorts.
That might be true, but I hope you will agree that it's easier to
consider a form being a list than a whole page.
A form is a list of controls and their related
Paul Novitski schreef:
Of course the problem was made easier by the fact that most of the
borders between Australian states are on the horizontal or vertical, ...
Just what I thought. I whished that I lived in a country with borders
like that ;-) Often clicked myself instant RSI creating
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