Re: [WSG] title attribute and semantic data

Benjamin, I do agree with the redundancy of title attribute and its device/mouse dependant--not fully accessible. -- Regards, Dani Iswara http://daniiswara.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] title attribute and semantic data

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:03:36 To: Subject: Re: [WSG] title attribute and semantic data On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Dani Iswara wrote: > In some blog machines/engines/themes, title attribute usua

Re: [WSG] title attribute and semantic data

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Dani Iswara wrote: > In some blog machines/engines/themes, title attribute usually has > the same text as in anchor link. Eg. in post title with > rel="bookmark". Redundant information, based on Web accessibility > point of view. But > http://www.w3.org/2003/12/se

[WSG] title attribute and semantic data

In some blog machines/engines/themes, title attribute usually has the same text as in anchor link. Eg. in post title with rel="bookmark". Redundant information, based on Web accessibility point of view. But http://www.w3.org/2003/12/semantic-extractor.html, Semantic Data Extractor tool built by W3C

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

Hello, The title attribute is especially useful if you need to explain the content of a page to your visitor and your link text is not so meaningful. I would advise that you attempt to use meaningful text in your links. It might be a good idea to change the structure of your sentence so that m

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

Hi Jens Actually, using the 'title' attribute in a link does NOT add a little bit of SEO. Title element ('Page Title') - yes for SEO - but title attribute - no. Try it yourself. Put a few words in a title attribute - words which don't otherwise appear on your page. The once Google has re-indexed

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

Let me see if I am understanding correctly. The Title attribute is not needed any more. As long as links are in simple language and their is a description of a photo and/or graphic on the side or top and bottom. Angus MacKinnon Infoforce Services http://www.infoforce-services.com "Faith is the

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

Christian Snodgrass wrote: Just another note: EVERY element has a title attribute Uh, not exactly, at least according to FWIW, -- Hassan Schroeder - has...@webtuitive.com Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-344

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

Just another note: EVERY element has a title attribute, not just the anchor attribute. Title is one of those basic properties like id and name. It doesn't have any unique use for any specific element, it just allows you to provide a bit more information for the element (which is usually display

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote: > Jens > >> I found that, contrary to what I believed previously, this is not >> required for assistive technologies, ie. screenreaders. They usually >> pick up the anchor text well. > > Anchor text? What is anchor text? I thought

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

Jens > I found that, contrary to what I believed previously, this is not > required for assistive technologies, ie. screenreaders. They usually > pick up the anchor text well. Anchor text? What is anchor text? I thought the Title attribute was the anchor text. Angus MacKinnon Infoforce Services

Re: [WSG] Title attribute

On 12/1/09 00:00, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: I found that, contrary to what I believed previously, this is not required for assistive technologies, ie. screenreaders. They usually pick up the anchor text well. http://www.rnib.org.uk/wacblog/articles/too-much-accessibility/too-much-accessibility-titl

RE: [WSG] Title attribute

> I was wondering how valuable the Title attribute is Use the 'title' attribute when the link text needs to be short and doesn't convey all a user needs to know, eg. Local news. In this case you also add a bit of SEO. I found that, contrary to what I believed previously, this is not required for

[WSG] Title attribute

I was wondering how valuible th Title attribute is. I just visited http://www.google.com/analytics/ and see they do not use and the new code I uploaded for an international nonprofit. Apperantly this code I uploaded is HTML and cSS valid. I was taught to do . Angus MacKinnon Infoforce Services

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

y didn't fix it). > > Can you provide any examples of sites that use tabindex well? > > Steve > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rogier Schoenmaker > Sent: 24 October 2007 20:51 > To: wsg@websta

RE: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rogier Schoenmaker Sent: 24 October 2007 20:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers Personally, I often still use the keyboard because I'm fast with it. And I really like good tabindexes. Why do you think they are useless? Rega

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Personally, I often still use the keyboard because I'm fast with it. And I really like good tabindexes. Why do you think they are useless? Regards, Rogier. On 24/10/2007, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > > So it's concluded that title attribute is as useless as tabindex > > and

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Chris Price wrote: I stand corrected. You can sit as well, it's fine :) P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photog

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Chris Price wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Also, sighted keyboard users will never see them either. If they use IE. Or Firefox, or Safari, or Opera, ... Try tabbing to a link with a title via keyboard, and tell me if it brings up a tooltip or similar to let a sighte

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

So it's concluded that title attribute is as useless as tabindex and accesskey and therefor shouldn't be used at all? Need acknowledge by your accessible mastero :) Need acknowledge "from" your accessible mastero :-) tee *

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:27 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Try tabbing to a link with a title via keyboard, and tell me if it brings up a tooltip or similar to let a sighted user read the title... So it's concluded that title attribute is as useless as tabindex and accesskey and therefor sh

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Chris Price wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Also, sighted keyboard users will never see them either. If they use IE. Or Firefox, or Safari, or Opera, ... Try tabbing to a link with a title via keyboard, and tell me if it brings up a tooltip or similar to let a sigh

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Chris Price wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Also, sighted keyboard users will never see them either. If they use IE. Or Firefox, or Safari, or Opera, ... Try tabbing to a link with a title via keyboard, and tell me if it brings up a tooltip or similar to let a sighted user read the title...

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

> > Also, sighted keyboard users will never see them either. > If they use IE. although users of firefox can access the title attribute via the keyboard, there is no way for them to know that there is a title there to be queried, unlike mouse users who are presented with the title as a tooltp when

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Also, sighted keyboard users will never see them either. If they use IE. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451 4488 Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder while Excellence is in the Hand of the P

RE: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Sent: Wednesday, 24 October, 2007 12:17 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers Hi Frank, I would suggest that if you want the information available to screen reader users or keyboard only users (as title attribute content is not available to keyboard

RE: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers Frank Palinkas wrote: > If I may follow on to Rebecca's query and based your reply, is it then > considered good practice (in general) _not_ to add title attributes and > values to hyperlinks? You can add

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

t; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Steven Faulkner > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October, 2007 11:20 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers > > Hi Rebecca, > announcing of title attribute values on links i

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Frank Palinkas wrote: If I may follow on to Rebecca's query and based your reply, is it then considered good practice (in general) _not_ to add title attributes and values to hyperlinks? You can add them, but you must be aware that it's likely that screen reader users won't hear them by defau

RE: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

teven Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, 24 October, 2007 11:20 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers Hi Rebecca, announcing of title attribute values on links is not a default screen reader behaviour and for JAWS the announcing of the title attribute is

Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Hi Rebecca, announcing of title attribute values on links is not a default screen reader behaviour and for JAWS the announcing of the title attribute is an OR choice (read title or link content) so effectively the title attribute conentt for links is unavailable to most screen reader users. On 24/

[WSG] Title attribute and screen readers

Hi all, I'm looking for up to date info on title attribute behaviour & screen readers, especially where used on site global navigation. As an example, http://www.e.govt.nz uses fairly long title attributes for the main navigation links, and this repeats throughout the site (i.e., not just on the

Re: [WSG] Title Attribute

> The impression I'm getting from the replies today are "title" as an > attribute, has inconsistent interpretation by most UA's. However, as > an element it is essential to the document. Is this interpretation > correct? Steve's article would back up your comment that the title attribute is incons

Re: [WSG] Title Attribute

Thanks, The impression I'm getting from the replies today are "title" as an attribute, has inconsistent interpretation by most UA's. However, as an element it is essential to the document. Is this interpretation correct? Respectfully, Christopher Kennon Principal & Creative Director

Re: [WSG] Title Attribute

The flexibility of the title attribute (as opposed to the title element) can be seen in the ever-exciting W3 technical reports. Two places that are always a great read, and full of surprises are the "List of attributes" [1] and "List of elements" [2]. The list of attributes shows the title and has

Re: [WSG] Title Attribute

On 1/19/06, Chris Kennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > My understanding of the title element appears shallow. Usage of the > title attribute within an Object , Frame and link is well documented. > However, when I encountered it with Some Text p> my was took on a wide-eyed look of embarrassme

[WSG] Title Attribute

Hi, My understanding of the title element appears shallow. Usage of the title attribute within an Object , Frame and link is well documented. However, when I encountered it with Some Textp> my was took on a wide-eyed look of embarrassment, as I was unaware of its usage in this context. Woul