Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Rob Crowther
On 18/08/10 21:16, Prisca schmarsow wrote: See this HTML5 doctor's site article: http://html5doctor.com/the-hgroup-element/ The example with the strapline that article links to is this: http://miniapps.co.uk/"; title="Home page">MiniApps HTML5 apps for Apple iOS, Google Android & other m

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Thanks, David :) I read up on a few different angles on this - one as you write, should contain 2 headings, and and tags. But when I initially read about it - and then confirmed for this site - it could also contain the main header with a strapline, therefore include a See this HTML5 doctor's

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread David Storey
On 18 Aug 2010, at 21:17, Prisca schmarsow wrote: Hi ;) as the subject has expanded to HTML5 - use it or not yet - I thought I might throw in a sample site. This is a new site for a webdesign course I run and teach, recently put live, setup in WordPress, and using some HTML5. (I will not t

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Jason Arnold
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM, tee wrote: > Months ago I tried converting a theme to HTML5, but had to give it up for > the following reason: > Ran into a number of validation errors with obsolete tags which are no > longer supported by HTML5. Though they were all fixable but it gave me a > seco

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Hi ;) as the subject has expanded to HTML5 - use it or not yet - I thought I might throw in a sample site. This is a new site for a webdesign course I run and teach, recently put live, setup in WordPress, and using some HTML5. (I will not teach next year's students HTML5 yet - but will introduce i

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread David Storey
On 18 Aug 2010, at 20:45, tee wrote: On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:06 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: It's a good starter book to introduce you to HTML5. It's not a reference manual just a good starter book. You still should read the W3C spec and get the other book Introduction to HTML5. I will disagree

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread tee
On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:06 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: > It's a good starter book to introduce you to HTML5. It's not a > reference manual just a good starter book. You still should read the > W3C spec and get the other book Introduction to HTML5. > > I will disagree with Jason Grant that it's too

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread tee
Nobody mention this one. http://diveintohtml5.org I find it a very good introduction of HML5 for me. tee On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:49 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more abo

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Frank M. Palinkas
Hi Jeff, Apologies for this late reply. If you are familiar with HTML 4, you may be interested in the changes that are being made with the progression to HTML5, especially before diving into the W3C HTML5 document. My colleague and active W3C HTML5 author Anne van Kesteren has produced an online

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread jeffrey morin
> > It's a good starter book to introduce you to HTML5. It's not a > reference manual just a good starter book. You still should read the > W3C spec and get the other book Introduction to HTML5. > > I will disagree with Jason Grant that it's too early to start using > HTML5. Because HTML5 suppor

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Jason Arnold
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:49 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am > turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does > anyone have a

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-18 Thread Hugo Mendes
go deep into technical issues such as > javascript, canvas, svg, etc which makes necessary for the development of > HTML5 interactive, as we're seeing out there. > > > From: jeffrey morin > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:49 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject:

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Steven Tan
necessary for the development of > HTML5 interactive, as we're seeing out there. > > > From: jeffrey morin > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:49 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS > > Does anyone have an opinion

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Bechara - iLearn Treinamentos
deep into technical issues such as javascript, canvas, svg, etc which makes necessary for the development of HTML5 interactive, as we're seeing out there. From: jeffrey morin Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:49 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESI

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread jeffrey morin
Hey Clare, I didn't like that every time I read a blog post or article by Jeffrey Zeldman that he had to put that book in their somewhere, whether it was related to the article or not. It just turned me off to the idea of buying it. That and it's only available through a book apart I think. Thank

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread jeffrey morin
Yeah I just wasn't sure what to expect. I had read it's a brief overview of the "best" parts of the language and sounds like from everyone here that is about right. I do like Jeremy Keith's writing so may pick it up, I figured it may be a good way to get started. Jeff On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:5

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread lany ke
so bad http://www.reebokjerseyonline.com 2010/8/17 Clare Warburton > well worth it my opinion. nice primer on HTML5. its not technical or step > by step, still its a quick and enjoyable read that you can read offline :) > > and er .. what exactly about their promotion was shameless?! > > Thanks

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Clare Warburton
well worth it my opinion. nice primer on HTML5. its not technical or step by step, still its a quick and enjoyable read that you can read offline :) and er .. what exactly about their promotion was shameless?! Thanks, Clare On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, jeffrey morin wrote: > Does anyone ha

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Russ Weakley
now with added longdesc.. ;) On 18/08/2010, at 1:25 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote: good places to start with HTML5 are: HTML: The Markup Language http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/ HTML5 (Edition for Web Authors) http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ regards stevef **

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Jeff, depends on what you expect I suppose, I've read it - it's only small and light - but I like Jeremy's writing - very distinct and to the point which makes the book a great overview. Currently reading 'Introducing HTML5' by Bruce Lawson and Remy Sharp - which is brilliant :) Very friendly and

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Steven Faulkner
good places to start with HTML5 are: HTML: The Markup Language http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/ HTML5 (Edition for Web Authors) http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ regards stevef On 17 August 2010 16:18, Jason Grant wrote: > A good starting point is the spec itself I would say. > You

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Jason Grant
A good starting point is the spec itself I would say. You shouldn't be going far off with reading the spec or at least skimming through it. I think W3C now has the 'human optimised' version of the spec and not just the browser vendor 900+ page and growing version only. Cheers, Jason On Tue, Aug 17

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Jason Grant
It's still early for using HTML5 within serious sites and there's not much point. I have long ago given up on reading books about development, as by the time the book is delivered it's already out of date most of the time. By the time HTML5 is in full usable swing, there will be (I'm sure) a good e

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread David Storey
On 17 Aug 2010, at 16:49, jeffrey morin wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any sugg

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Joseph Taylor
I've read DOM Scripting by Jeremy Keith and it was a fine book for what it was. Haven't read this one though. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /"Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design"/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sites

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Fabien BENARIAC
Hey ! I think that could be an interresting book... but I don't know if I will prefer to wait the second edition. In fact, I will wait some times to see how browser understand HTML5. As I have already understand, Firefox and Safari/Chrome don't use the same CSS properties ! So I think these b

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread AGerasimchuk
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[WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread jeffrey morin
Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Thanks,