Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables

2011-10-14 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Lapcewich, Dennis wrote: Thanks to all who responded, and confirmed my initial view. My reason for asking the obvious is that within a government agency, we seem to have an excess of pickers of nits (often outside of the actual expertise) who just won’t take

Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables

2011-10-13 Thread David Dorward
On 12 Oct 2011, at 20:58, Lapcewich, Dennis wrote: Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? It is best practise to wrap paragraphs in a P element. If you have paragraphs in your table data (which is relatively rare, but still possible), then you should use P

RE: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Freeman
Tables are used to present data. So I think it makes perfect sense to simply put the data in the cells, and not wrap them in p tags. Would there be a reason to have a table of paragraphs? Dan Freeman e-Commerce Manager 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com

Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables

2011-10-12 Thread dj
Wrapping table cell content in a p tag adds unneccessary padding and code. Unless you have a good reason, such as multiple paragraphs within a table cell, I would avoid the extra code. If you have multiple paragraphs, then you might want to adjust the css so you don't have extra space (the

Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables

2011-10-12 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 10/12/11 12:58 PM, Lapcewich, Dennis wrote: Is it a best practice to wrap content in a table cell using p tags? I'd say no, never. Each cell should contain exactly what's contained in the corresponding DB field. If it's text, it might well *contain* paragraph tags, or not. If it's a

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-20 Thread Keryx Web
Alexey Novikov skrev: I use this pattern: a href=document.pdfTitle_of_This_Lengthy_Document/a, PDF, 1234kb I would suggest putting the abbreviation PDF and the size inside the a-element if anyone tabs from link to link with JAWS or anything similar. or with icon: a href=document.pdfimg

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-19 Thread Alexey Novikov
K On 2/16/08, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K Icons also help people make quick choices and allow you to provide K the documents in a tabular format when required. K Title of This Lengthy Document [PDF ICON] title=download the PDF: K Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document [MSWORD ICON]

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Dwain, Matt Sorry forgot to mention I also getfilesize in php for reasons Dwain mentioned and I have created simple functions like the one he mentions, with a pool of file icons to display with. Sorry for not mentioning these. Joe On Feb 17 2008, at 00:27, Matt Fellows wrote: As Joe

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Designer
Matt Fellows wrote: There is a nice article [1] that can show you how to automatically style links with little icons depending on the extension of the file it points to if you are interested. Cheers, Matt [1] - http://www.askthecssguy.com/2006/12/showing_hyperlink_cues_with_cs_1.html Hi

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Max A. Shpack
that's because IE6 doesn't support attribute selectors. but you can use classes instead. Max. 2008/2/17, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matt Fellows wrote: There is a nice article [1] that can show you how to automatically style links with little icons depending on the extension of the file

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Thomas Thomassen
Message - From: Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents Matt Fellows wrote: There is a nice article [1] that can show you how to automatically style links

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Andrew Cunningham
On Sun, February 17, 2008 10:02 pm, Thomas Thomassen wrote: Yes, IE doesn't handle attribute selectors. There are always javascript workarounds for attribute selectors in IE. However, I'd still be tempted to use it. The only thing that happens is that IE6 doesn't display the icons.

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Thomas Thomassen
True. Dean Edwards got a very good library to aid IE: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

RE: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Kevin
Thank you to both you and Joe! Good info!!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dwain Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents On 2/16/08, Joe Ortenzi

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-16 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Don't know about best practice but I can tell you about ways I approached it in the past and how I like it when I come to a page with the options you offer. I usually put helpful information in the title attribute of a link, so a new window link includes : ..to open x in a new window

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-16 Thread dwain
On 2/16/08, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Icons also help people make quick choices and allow you to provide the documents in a tabular format when required. Title of This Lengthy Document [PDF ICON] title=download the PDF: Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document [MSWORD ICON] title=download

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-16 Thread Matt Fellows
As Joe said, I also think icons are a great way for users to quickly scan the page and get a sense of what is going on. There is a nice article [1] that can show you how to automatically style links with little icons depending on the extension of the file it points to if you are interested.

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-07-02 Thread David Little
These solutions are interesting, but I'm only willing to spend time looking at them if: * Users without Javascript but with Flash can still view the movies * I can integrate them with my CMS (Plone) -- I'll need to generate the code dynamically * I don't have to litter the body with Javascript

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-07-02 Thread Micky Hulse
David Little wrote: These solutions are interesting, but I'm only willing to spend time looking at them if: Seems like you are over-thinking it. swfObject or UFO. I personally prefer the latter mostly due to reasons I stated before (cms... needing access to certain params for dynamic

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-30 Thread Sander Aarts
Tate Johnson schreef: On 29/06/2007, at 6:52 PM, David Little wrote: It shows my limited knowledge of this area that I wasn't aware that you could put your alternative content within the object tag -- that's going to be very useful. This seems to be the best way forward for me at present with

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-29 Thread Tate Johnson
On 29/06/2007, at 6:52 PM, David Little wrote: I see your point here. The only thing I wonder about, and forgive me if I am just in need of more coffee here, but what does a user get if they *choose* not use Flash? Is alt-content handled? It shows my limited knowledge of this area that I

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread David Little
Hi, Thanks for your replies on this. I'd embedded the movie in the way Tim described -- I was thinking more along the lines of what you would do when you use this method to deal with the inevitable messages you get when you don't have the plugin installed. You'd get round this with a detection

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Tom Livingston
I think the answer here may lie in descriptive help text about which plugin you may need rather than anything more complex Thanks again, David I see your point here. The only thing I wonder about, and forgive me if I am just in need of more coffee here, but what does a user get if they

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Micky Hulse
Designer wrote: Note the 5th line of code. If a user doesn't have Flash, he/she just sees the equivalent gif. NO pestering. Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. :) I personally prefer swfObject. UFO is another (unobtrusive alternative to swfObject): http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/ I

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Sander Aarts
Tom Livingston schreef: On 6/27/07, David Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas would be very gratefully received! I use this:

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Micky Hulse
Sander Aarts wrote: I prefer it above SWFObject as it seems to be more web standards compliant. Well that's what Bobby says himself anyway ;-) in this A list Apart article about Flash embedding: I like the UFO approach, but I found that it is not the best option if you have to dynamically

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-27 Thread Tim Palac
I use conditional code on my site - seems the best way to go if you want to follow standards. Personally I just never had the patience to dive into those A List Apart Flash Satay and other methods. The general issue is that IE and all other browsers render Flash differently. I've tested this

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-27 Thread Tom Livingston
On 6/27/07, David Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas would be very gratefully received! I use this: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ Not sure about

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-29 Thread designer
text-align : center to my generic *{margin : 0; padding : 0} on my CSS ! Delighted. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [WSG

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-29 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day designer wrote: Lawdy - I've got work to do now, removing all those conditional comments and adding text-align : center to my generic *{margin : 0; padding : 0} on my CSS ! I wouldn't do that, unless you want everything centered... Text in every paragraph, content of any and every div,

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-29 Thread Stuart Homfray
Mike wrote: I guess you can't center a fluid width element. Does anyone know of a way? I suppose you could go: #container { margin: 0 20px; } or #container { margin: 0 5%; } Stuart ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-29 Thread designer
- Original Message - From: Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] best practice? I wouldn't do that, unless you want everything centered... Text in every paragraph, content of any and every div, list item

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Jan Brasna
body {text-align: center;} #container {text-align: left; margin: 0 auto;} -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Use: body { margin: 0; padding: 0; text-align: center; /* for IE */ } Then override the text align center on your container with: #container { margin: 0 auto; width: 750px; text-align: left; } HTH, -Nigel -Original

RE: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Hugues Brunelle
Hello Bob, This might help you for layout positionning : http://www.bluerobot.com/ http://glish.com/css/ Hugues Brunelle Concepteur graphique // ECHO tridimension 2139 rue Masson Montral QC H2H 1A8 1-(514)5211360 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Mike
Hey Everyone, I think this is correct. What happens is that if you don't set a width, it defaults to 'auto'. In that case you have a left margin, right margin, and width all with 'auto' values. This forces the left margin value to become 0 and the right margin value to be ignored. I think.

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Roger Johansson
On 28 apr 2005, at 22.04, designer wrote: Thing. The point is, this doesn't work in IE IE6 in standards mode does, actually. But you need to give the element you want to centre an explicit width. See Centring (centering) in this document: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Chris Knowles
This works well... body { text-align: center; } #container { margin: 0 auto; text-align: left; } But so does this... #container { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 50%; width: 60em; margin-left: 0 0 0 -30em; } -- Chris Knowles