Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
Tim To keep it really simple: Spec + SEO + Good IA + Semantics + Accessibility + Common sense == One H1 per page Hope this makes sense? Thanks, Jason On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Tim White wrote: > OK, straight from Google Webmaster Central: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VM&f

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Tim White
OK, straight from Google Webmaster Central: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VM&feature=channel (video from March 2009) Tim On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Jason Grant wrote: > Tim, > Well done for reading the spec - it's alway

RE: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread EBS Admin
r 2009 13:11 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest) I am not sure that a page with multiple important subject does not exist. so IA wise and semantic wise this is not a must. google wise it is. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:55

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
Yuval, Everything exists on the Internet, but it doesn't mean it's good. So pages with multiple subject do exist, they are just known as 'bad pages' from IA perspective. ;-) On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Yuval Ararat wrote: > I am not sure that a page with multiple important subject does not

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Yuval Ararat
I am not sure that a page with multiple important subject does not exist. so IA wise and semantic wise this is not a must. google wise it is. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jason Grant wrote: > Tim, > Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. > > However, Google came after the HTML

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Yuval Ararat
The issue with having more then 1 H! tag is not the validity of the page as XHTML or HTML5 or any other specification, its not even affecting WCAG1/2. the only case that is affected is the search engines relationship with H1 that entitled it as the Content's Title. it is not mandatory that it will

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
Tim, Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. However, Google came after the HTML4.01 spec and what Google wants we give it - so the 'only one H1 per page' guideline comes from SEO best practices as well as general semantics and IA best practices. So the spec does not tell you to use

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Tim White
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Marilyn Langfeld wrote: > ... > > H1 is reserved for the title of the page. In a document, at least, there's > only one title, while there may be many first level headings. > ... > > So H1 is, IMHO, not the first level header, but the T1, or main title of > th

Re: [Spam] :Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Oliver Boermans
2009/10/16 Adam Martin : > Again the logo is usually only the most important thing to the owner - not > the customer - the customer will recognise if they are on the right site or > not. I believe it”s appropriate to represent the logo as a h1 on a site’s home page, unless you are using a position

[Spam] :Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Adam Martin
While I agree that you can have several areas of equal importance on a page. I still beg to differ that you would want to saturate the effectiveness of a h1 tag by using it by wrapping it around the logo. It seems to me to be a little like the infamous "can you make my logo a little bigger" tha

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
I attempted this very topic before in a blog post: http://www.flexewebs.com/semantix/semantic-uses-of-h1-h2-h6-html-tags/ Hope it makes sense. Thanks, Jason On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, wrote: > Thanks for your responses

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
Speaking as both publications, graphic and web designer, the real problem has always been that the title resides in the head, not in a title tag inside the body. H1 is reserved for the title of the page. In a document, at least, there's only one title, while there may be many first level headings.T

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread cf
Thanks for your responses... Why use more than one H1? Simple...2 areas of the page that are of equal importance. Why should it only be one? I understand the simplicity of focusing on one area of each page and the impact that could have in search resultsbut that that doesn't entirely