Well, I'm with Mike Kear on this one one hundred percent...
Agreeing on standards is like McDonald's and Burger King agreeing to
have the same type of french fry recipe. Where is the secret sauce that
makes you want to go their restaurant? And where is the reason why I
should use one browser
On 6/14/04 3:00 AM Marc Greenstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
A friend of mine sent me this link;
http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx
He loves to play devils advocate so he just refuses to adopt current
standards, it's ok though cause he's the competition.
Yeah
How cute.
What good are standards when browsers change so fast by adding new features
every month? Or, the needs and demands of the users change with the latest killer app?
It appears that your friend has been living in a cave since the browser wars...
The rest is the usual well, these big sites
The author's an idiot.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
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Sent: Monday, 14 June 2004 8:01 PM
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Ok let me expand on my earlier opinion and give a bit more detail
He's a bloody idiot.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
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On 6/14/04 3:34 AM Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
It appears that your friend has been living in a cave since the browser
wars...
The rest is the usual well, these big sites are not valid, so why bother
drivel.
Kept me entertained for all of 17 seconds.
Yeah, but you
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:00:45 +1000, Marc Greenstock wrote:
http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx
Gentlemen,
The article in question uses inflammatory language and fails to back up
its claims.
Might I suggest we retain our professional demeanour and not sink to
the author's
Yeah, but you should s'plain a bit, IMO.
If the biggies ignore the standards scenario, what are *we* doing?
Ok, let's expand a bit. There are at least two reasons why the biggies
are ignoring standards: the speed of change in large organisations
(management can often move at the speed of
Hi Rick,
If the biggies ignore the standards scenario, what are *we* doing?
I suspect the problem with the biggies is normally that they have grown so
big that making significant changes in the name of web standards isn't as
big a priority as other business aims, such as increasing sales, etc.
included in the standard.
I'm not saying ignore standards, just that sometimes breaking them serves a purpose
too.
mike 2k:)2
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From: Patrick Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 June 2004 11:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Interesting reading
How
I think any of us that have worked in big companies know just how slowly things
move in terms of technology.
Im working on a redesign of a fairly high profile site now and, although the
company Im working for and the client are both reasonably knowledgable about
standards and realise there
Who would be completely happy with the Standards set in 1992?
Didn't the late nineties Browser wars come up with
non-standard stuff that's now included in the standard.
Yes, but: before becoming part of the standard, most of these innovations
were extended, expanded, generalised and made
Then again, according to the article (rant): changing
standards = OXYMORON
That's why there are different versions and subversions. 3.2, 4.0 and 4.01
are all different beasts. They don't change. If you're an idiot that doesn't
think a doctype is required because you don't understand it, then
2004 9:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Interesting reading
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:00:45 +1000, Marc Greenstock wrote:
http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx
Gentlemen,
The article in question uses inflammatory language and fails to back up
its claims.
Might I
Has anyone else seen any changes in larger organisations?
Yep, we do work for some medium-to-large companies and nonprofits in the US
(Clairol, Marriott, Disney), and while individual client interest in
standards varies (usually dependent on clients' general technical awareness,
IMO), we do get
Has anyone else seen any changes in larger organisations?
I was hired by Ingles Markets (15,000 employee grocer chain) back in
Fenruary, and was lucky enough to have free range over how to best upgrade
our web site. Naturally, I went with a standards-based solution. No one
here would know the
El lun, 14-06-2004 a las 12:00, Marc Greenstock escribió:
A friend of mine sent me this link;
http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx
He loves to play devils advocate so he just refuses to adopt current
standards, it's ok though cause he's the competition.
Happy reading
I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously enough to even comment -
it's pretty obvious to this newbie to css standards, he's trolling - he
got you ~ I think enough has been said about his dubious commentaries ~ let
it go - please
Marie
About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1
I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously enough to even
comment -
it's pretty obvious to this newbie to css standards, he's trolling -
he
got you ~ I think enough has been said about his dubious commentaries ~
let
it go - please
Marie
About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1
Marie wrote:
I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously enough to even comment
I can. I'm guessing that the reason so many have commented is that they
are so blown away by the nonsensical idiocy put to HTML. Often in
situations, such as this one, where one is overwhelmed by the conflict
Hahaha,
I knew this would ruffle a few feathers.
Marc.
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From: Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Interesting reading
Marie wrote:
I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously
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