[WSG] Market Position gets on the bandwagon

2004-03-18 Thread David McDonald
The February edition of the Market Position newsletter has an article explaining 'Why you should validate your HTML' http://www.marketposition.com/mp-0204.htm#TWO It's great to see another group, besides developers, starting to understand the benefits of valid code - these guys are in the search

[WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread russ weakley
The next Sydney meeting has been moved back from the 8th to the 15th April to avoid the Easter long weekend. We have a special presenter for the night - David Woodbridge. David works at the Royal Blind Society. His jobs is to evaluate client websites from a blind perspective (yes, he is blind).

Re: [WSG] dreamweaver

2004-03-18 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hugh Todd wrote: Macromedia decided to license the Opera HTML-rendering engine just as they did with Contribute 2 to provide more faithful layout rendering than before, although this does seem to come with a performance price at times. The review is here:

Re: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Mark Lynch
Wow - really looking forward to this - it's something that many of us try to support without ever having used screen reader or even knowing a blind person. I expect there will be a lot of learningand changes in the aftermath. On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 01:11, Tim Lucas wrote: Thanks Russ, Peter

RE: [WSG] A rave about h1's

2004-03-18 Thread P.H.Lauke
From: Jeremy Flint [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I do believe that he said officially, not really speaking for himself, but for the CSS community that supported that method as a whole. rant Well...I'm part of the CSS community, and I was not consulted on this...so how presumptuous of him to

RE: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Leslie Riggs
For non-Sydney members, he has promised to write up a list of his top 50 accessibility issues. We will post this to the group. Very exciting! Russ I'm very, VERY interested in reading what David has to say about accessibility with regard to the needs of blind users, so I'll be looking forward

[OT] Re: [WSG] FIR deprecated [WAS: A rave about h1's]

2004-03-18 Thread Tim Lucas
Gyrus spoke the following wise words on 19/03/2004 1:46 AM EST: Just a request - could we change subject lines when the subject changes? Actually, I can't remember how the h1 thread became the FIR thread... But anyway, I'm sure I'm not alone in liking the ability to scan my list inboxes for

[WSG] Re: You have subscribed to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-03-18 Thread graham
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Re: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Tim Lucas
Leslie Riggs spoke the following wise words on 19/03/2004 2:13 AM EST: If only I could get to Sydney...but it is not to be. Anybody got a DV-Cam? Maybe for meetings we could video guest speakers (with their permission of course), type up transcripts and post both to the website along with their

RE: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm yes, we have access to three (mini) DV cameras that I know of. Processing all that video will be a bit of a pain though. We'll probably do an hour with David so it may not be very practical, and I don't really want to serve that much video from my server. Maybe someone in Sydney can

RE: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread P.H.Lauke
Change onclick=window.open('index.cfm?id=23', to onclick=window.open(this.href, This way, if you change your link's href, you don't have to remember to change it in the javascript as well. Also...while we're on sitepoint, you could just look at Ian Lloyd's perfect pop-up article

RE: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread Gyrus
At 16:55 18/03/2004 +, you wrote: Change onclick=window.open('index.cfm?id=23', to onclick=window.open(this.href, Excellent! thanks, Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread Gyrus
At 18:06 18/03/2004 +0100, you wrote: It's quite fine, IMO. You should consider however making it a little less mouse-centric by adding a onkeypress event that does just the same than onclick. That would ask then for abstracting the code to a funcion and maybe rewording the title of the link Sorry

Re: [WSG] A rave about h1's

2004-03-18 Thread russ weakley
Tantek's site is not really his own design. Every few weeks he changes the visual appearance to look like one of the top 100 blogs - to show how their sites could look the same but have sound underlying structure. Can't remember who's visual style he has used at present... Russ Russ I

Re: [WSG] FIR deprecated [WAS: A rave about h1's]

2004-03-18 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Russ I'm guilty as charged... I have posted more than one tread in a message. The reason it happens is I enjoy this list so much I read ALL treads and I'm sure many list members do too. People complain about too much traffic, but when you condense it, they complain about not having enough

Re: [WSG] Just got an eMac - now I'm more confused than ever!

2004-03-18 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
John Dump the table and add margin: auto; to your ID container in the stylesheet or head and your page layout will center perfectly in most recent browsers on the mac. You can also use the shorthand version to keep the layout static vertical using margin: 10px auto; On Thursday, March 18, 2004,

Re: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread James Ellis
Leslie You (and others) may be interested in CMML via the CSIRO - http://www.annodex.net/index.html. The Annodex technology extends the World Wide Web's hyperlinking, searching, and compositing infrastructure to time-continuous data, enabling e.g. /video surfing/, searching for clips of audio

[WSG] css from photoshop file?

2004-03-18 Thread Neerav
I have always written standards compliant css for a site around a clients recommendations as to colours and position of logos etc. Now I've been asked: You'd be fine doing the templates from supplied photoshop files? I guess this would mean replicating the look of a PSD file with css code?

Re: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Nick Lo
On that note have you considered just releasing it straight on to video or dvd and selling it? It'd be a laborious job to have to edit and web format all that footage and equally laborious to have to watch it via the web. I think this kind of thing (especially a run through of how blind users

RE: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

2004-03-18 Thread Mark Stanton
You'd be fine doing the templates from supplied photoshop files? I guess this would mean replicating the look of a PSD file with css code? Would this kind of client expect standards compliant css or rigid WYSIWYG works in IE code, any tips to ensure that the result will be decent css

Re: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

2004-03-18 Thread Sarah Sammis
I have always written standards compliant css for a site around a clients recommendations as to colours and position of logos etc. Now I've been asked: You'd be fine doing the templates from supplied photoshop files? I guess this would mean replicating the look of a PSD file with css code?

Re: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

2004-03-18 Thread Mike Brown
Neerav I have always written standards compliant css for a site around a Neerav clients recommendations as to colours and position of logos etc. Now Neerav I've been asked: Neerav You'd be fine doing the templates from supplied photoshop files? Neerav I guess this would mean replicating the

RE: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

2004-03-18 Thread Phillips, Wendy
I've actually nearly always designed new sites or templates from my graphics file - whether that's fireworks or photopaint. To me, there's no difference in the two methods but designing your layout visually in the first instance gives you the best idea as to how the finished product will more

Re: [WSG] Just got an eMac - now I'm more confused than ever!

2004-03-18 Thread russ weakley
John, Leo has already solved your problem, which is excellent, but it might be worth reading this article - which explains the two main methods of centering using CSS. CSS Centering - fun for all: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/center/ Russ I had to put the whole page into a table

Re: [WSG] Relative font sizes - resizing in IE

2004-03-18 Thread Charles Eaton
On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 05:44 PM, James Silva wrote: Hi guys, Can anyone point me to a good article regarding relative font sizes and IE? I'm trying to avoid large font size point changes when changing text size in IE. Take a look at a page I just posted to another list on the

Re: [WSG] Just got an eMac - now I'm more confused than ever!

2004-03-18 Thread Justin French
On Thursday, March 18, 2004, at 11:41 AM, John Penlington wrote: I normally use IE6 on Win XP Pro to code pages in valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional.   Bravely, I bought an EMac to view sites I'm building on IE 5.2 for Mac and Safari 1.1.1   I'm determined to follow Web standards, but the eMac

RE: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Nick Cowie
I have been fortunate to watch/listen to Ryan from the WA office of the the Royal Blind Society demonstrating his screen reader on a couple of occassions and answer dumb questions from a sighted audience. It changed the way I construct websites. My advice if you are in Sydney, go listen to

Re: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

2004-03-18 Thread Neerav
Thanks to mark, Sarah, Mike and Wendy for their tips :-) Knowing what the other side is probably expecting when developing helped a lot. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] A rave about h1's

2004-03-18 Thread Nate Cook
Right now he's working on Doc Searls' Weblog -- doc.weblogs.com. Tantek doesn't have a stylesheet switcher, but the older ones are listed as alternate stylesheets, so if you're using Firefox or something that lets you choose you can look at his previous recodes... Nate On Mar 18, 2004, at

Re: [WSG] Relative font sizes - resizing in IE

2004-03-18 Thread Felix Miata
Charles Eaton wrote: http://www.eatons.net/test/IE-S.html All that proves is the size of a point varies with DPI. 12pt is twice as big at 144 DPI as at 72 DPI. On my sisters 192 DPI system, 12pt is quite big. 12pt may or may not be the same size as the user's default, so why bother even